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  1. #51
    Rosebud CitizenDwayne's Avatar
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    prototypical stat padder that will never be a franchise player for a contender.

    He's the white Amare Stoudemire imo
    Yeah, and Amare was certainly a top 10 player at his peak

  2. #52
    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    cp3 tier 2 player...roflmao

    the amount of excuses for this clown should run out by now

    with or without talent around him, his still leading them to nowhere, and when its last game on the line he will lead them to the biggest deficit loss

  3. #53
    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Lebron
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    Those are the players I'd put over Love right now, at least 13 of them if Kobe, PG and Rose were healthy.

    He's the perfect forward to complement Lebron and they will most likely make the Finals together, but he's not a top 10 player in this league with some of these guys leading average teams to Playoffs in the Western Conference. You'd honestly put Love ahead of Griffin, Aldridge, Davis or Dirk, based off of last season? He's borderline top 5 PF in the league, but not a top 10 player.

    He puts up some nice stats, but they haven't won many games and before you tell me the Wolves are so horrible as a team, how many games did they lose in crunch time last season, when they needed Love to seal the deal?

    Love's crunch time numbers last season

    (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,
    neither team ahead by more than 5 points)

    Floor Time statistics
    Min Net Pts Off Def Net48 W L Win%
    94% -80 103.3 128.5 -25.3 15 22 40.5%
    These stats represent how the team performed in clutch situations while the player was on the floor.
    The Net48 number shows the average +/- net points over a full game.

    Scoring
    By FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
    48 Min 9.8 27.5 .356 .425 65% 5% 8.5 31.9

  4. #54
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    20k posts against my 1k and that's the best ya got,,,parrot a loser like me,,,,?
    1.77k posts in and doesn't understand mockery

  5. #55
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Which would you rather have Harden or Love on your team?
    Harden.

  6. #56
    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    love doesnt play to win man

    he only plays to pad empty stats

    his looking at the bigger picture since the nba is a business and only handful of teams are really contenders, his going after what everyone is failing to understand...get paid

    his one of them players who has figure out the league...pad stats to get max contract

  7. #57
    Believe.
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    Parker has a slightly quieter year and he goes from top 5 to out of the 10?

  8. #58
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    He puts up some nice stats, but they haven't won many games and before you tell me the Wolves are so horrible as a team, how many games did they lose in crunch time last season, when they needed Love to seal the deal?

    Love's crunch time numbers last season

    (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,
    neither team ahead by more than 5 points)

    Floor Time statistics
    Min Net Pts Off Def Net48 W L Win%
    94% -80 103.3 128.5 -25.3 15 22 40.5%
    These stats represent how the team performed in clutch situations while the player was on the floor.
    The Net48 number shows the average +/- net points over a full game.

    Scoring
    By FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
    48 Min 9.8 27.5 .356 .425 65% 5% 8.5 31.9
    The goods ^

    Love's stans like to claim that the Wolves were just "unlucky" in close games, but if Love had anywhere near the impact he's hyped up to have, he should be enough to swing some of those close games in Minny's favor....

    Right off the top of my head, last year, I recall Love choking a game against us by missing a bunny layup and choking a game against MethKC at the free throw line....

  9. #59
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    LOL Kevin Love

  10. #60
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Some of y'all are delusional.

    Curry, Harden and even Melo (exception of last season) are not better than Love

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Some of y'all are delusional.

    Curry, Harden and even Melo (exception of last season) are not better than Love
    What makes Love better?

  12. #62
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    I don't get the Curry love (lol). He's barely a top-10 PG. He's not better than Love, and he's not a championship-level first option.

    Anyway, I'm surprised Marc Gasol isn't making any top-10 lists. I definitely think he may be better than Love.

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    The #1 option argument is pretty illogical, tbh, as there are only 2 legit "traditional" #1 options in the league today, unless you want to include Westbrook in there, too, tbh..

    As we just saw with the Spurs, where Kawhi Leonard was the best Spur in the Finals(and Diaw may have even been 2nd), you don't necessarily need to have a traditional #1 guy if you have other great players and a top-level system..

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    The #1 option argument is pretty illogical, tbh, as there are only 2 legit "traditional" #1 options in the league today, unless you want to include Westbrook in there, too, tbh..

    As we just saw with the Spurs, where Kawhi Leonard was the best Spur in the Finals(and Diaw may have even been 2nd), you don't necessarily need to have a traditional #1 guy if you have other great players and a top-level system..
    You need a #1 option to get you to the playoffs. And the Spurs' success because of their system is unparalleled. Miami's system was LeBron and they got two rings. Dirk rang with great defensive players around him yet he was still the #1. No one dismantled the Heat in the Finals like SA did and there's a reason for that.

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    hard to call him a top 70 player. By stats sure, by watching him, no.

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    Believe. Malik Hairston's Avatar
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    You need a #1 option to get you to the playoffs. And the Spurs' success because of their system is unparalleled. Miami's system was LeBron and they got two rings. Dirk rang with great defensive players around him yet he was still the #1. No one dismantled the Heat in the Finals like SA did and there's a reason for that.
    I meant legit #1s that can win you a le..there are only 2-3 of those in the league at the moment..

    Sure, Love isn't, but neither are current Dirk, Curry, Harden, current Howard, Paul, Griffin, etc..

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    What makes Love better?
    If advance statistics and metrics are your measuring stick, he's better than all of the above.

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    What makes Love better?
    If advance statistics and metrics are your measuring stick, he's better than all of the above.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    If advance statistics and metrics are your measuring stick, he's better than all of the above.
    That would actually make him worse, tbh. So what makes him better?

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    Another thing in Love's favor is that he's a high-level off-ball player, which is essential if he's going to be playing in a 1a/2 option role..the transition should be relatively easy, as he already does a ton of his damage off the ball and through rebounding..

    Since most of these guys that have been named aren't franchise-level #1 guys, it's imperative that they can play off the ball when teamed up with another superstar player(like the potential Love-Lebron combination)..players like Irving, Harden, Carmelo, etc haven't ever shown that they can succeed without handling the ball, which is a negative against them IMO..

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    Statistically one of the worst rim protectors in the league, and he would rather get into rebounding position early than actually guard his man or contest a shot.... this is a big reason why the Cavs (who are in dire need of rim protection) would be foolish to trade the farm for this stat-padder....
    especially since they have varejao who is a far better defender and just as good as a rebounder.

  23. #73
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Another thing in Love's favor is that he's a high-level off-ball player, which is essential if he's going to be playing in a 1a/2 option role..the transition should be relatively easy, as he already does a ton of his damage off the ball and through rebounding..

    Since most of these guys that have been named aren't franchise-level #1 guys, it's imperative that they can play off the ball when teamed up with another superstar player(like the potential Love-Lebron combination)..players like Irving, Harden, Carmelo, etc haven't ever shown that they can succeed without handling the ball, which is a negative against them IMO..
    Giving up on a play so he can get the rebound is not damage. Harden can. He hasn't played with a PG who can handle it. Not since Westbrook.

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    And anyone who takes Westbrick over a 26 and 12 power forward,,,,got damn.
    that's not even debatable. Westchuck is better at anything meaningful than love

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    That would actually make him worse, tbh. So what makes him better?
    Please explain.

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