Cavs: and Wolves agree in principle on deal sending Love to Cleveland

[Sheriff Hoyt]

Kevin Love is about to get his wish. The Timberwolves and Cavaliers have agreed to a trade in principle that would send Love to Cleveland for a package headlined by rookie Andrew Wiggins, according to Brian Windhorst in a radio appearance with Chris Broussard and Ryan Ruocco. The deal can officially be completed on Aug. 23 when Wiggins will no longer to bound by a rule that says players cannot be traded for 30 days following the signing of a new contract.

Anthony Bennett, the No. 1 overall selection from the 2013 draft, is also reportedly involved in the deal, but he may not be sticking in Minnesota. Bennett could be re-routed to Philadelphia in a trade that would send Thaddeus Young to the Timberwolves.
"The deal is done, but not done," Windhorst said. "The teams have agreed, but they can't say they have agreed and they can't agree because we are in this weird moratorium period. Because you can't trade Andrew Wiggins until the 23rd of this month."
Windorst says that in the 19-day period before the trade can become official, it is possible a team could swoop in and get Love with a superior offer. The Chicago Bulls and Golden State Warriors have been the two other teams most closely tied to Love. Chicago can't offer a player with Wiggins' perceived long-term potential while Golden State has been hesitant to include 24-year-old shooting guard Klay Thompson in a package for Love.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/8/4...andrew-wiggins

[baseline bum]

Stupid. The Timberwolves have no leverage here. What Cleveland should do is make the following offer:

1. Wiggins: $5.56 million
2. Brenda Haywood: $2.21 million
3. John Lucas III: $1.6 million (unguaranteed)
4. Matthew Delladova: $0.816 million
5. Erik Murphy: $0.816 million

That allows them to land Love since his salary will be less than 150% of Cleveland's outgoing salary and the Cavs will be well below the luxury tax level. There is no way they should just give Bennett away unless they really want to dump his contract.

That deal would eventually get done, as no one is going to offer Minnesota a better building block than Wiggins. No ing way you take Klay Thompson over Wiggins just because Cleveland plays hardball.

[slick'81]

All knew it would happen

[Chinook]

Not really news. Surprised that Philly wants Bennet over Waiters. But if Ant gets his act together, the Sixers will be fun to watch this season. Fun, but not good.

[Cry Havoc]

If this goes down, Cavs are the #1 overall favorite out East. As of now, that award is with Chicago.

What a sad sack of a conference.

[baseline bum]

Not really news. Surprised that Philly wants Bennet over Waiters. But if Ant gets his act together, the Sixers will be fun to watch this season. Fun, but not good.

I doubt Cleveland would move Waiters.

[Chinook]

Stupid. The Timberwolves have no leverage here. What Cleveland should do is make the following offer:

1. Wiggins: $5.56 million
2. Brenda Haywood: $2.21 million
3. John Lucas III: $1.6 million (unguaranteed)
4. Matthew Delladova: $0.816 million
5. Erik Murphy: $0.816 million

That allows them to land Love since his salary will be less than 150% of Cleveland's outgoing salary and the Cavs will be well below the luxury tax level. There is no way they should just give Bennett away unless they really want to dump his contract.

That deal would eventually get done, as no one is going to offer Minnesota a better building block than Wiggins. No ing way you take Klay Thompson over Wiggins just because Cleveland plays hardball.

Haywood is too valuable to trade him away again, amd depending on when exactly he was acquired, he may not even be aggregateable.

[baseline bum]

Haywood is too valuable to trade him away again, amd depending on when exactly he was acquired, he may not even be aggregateable.

I think the only restriction on Brenda is he can't be traded back to Dallas since they amnestied him.

[MeloHype]

Not really news. Surprised that Philly wants Bennet over Waiters. But if Ant gets his act together, the Sixers will be fun to watch this season. Fun, but not good.

LeBron wants waiters on the cavs

[baseline bum]

Then again, the more I think about it, the more I think Minnesota would hold Love until the trade deadline if the Cavs can't get them Thaddeus Young as part of the deal. That's a lot of risk and Cleveland is ed if Wiggins flames out. Conversely, unless Love tears an ACL there is no way Wiggins in even the best case is even half the player Love is next season. I guess they gotta do the deal.

[Thebesteva]

Am I the only one here who feels like this is a bad move? Isnt this in essence what the FO did wrong the first time around and it cost Lebron to leave? Its one thing to do logical things to make your superstar happy, its another to make a dumb monkey like Lebron the GM. They are giving him who he wants and that guy is a proven moron, he picked Antawn Jamison over Amare.

Its like when Kobe thought it would be brilliant to trade Jason Kidd for Andrew Bynum and later on admitted that would have been a dumb move once Gasol came along.

[Chinook]

I think the only restriction on Brenda is he can't be traded back to Dallas since they amnestied him.

I'm not sure. I think he was traded after James signed, which means Cleveland may have been over the cap when they officially got him. If so, he'd be under the 60-day restriction. Even if he's not, he's still too valuable to give away.

[baseline bum]

Am I the only one here who feels like this is a bad move? Isnt this in essence what the FO did wrong the first time around and it cost Lebron to leave? Its one thing to do logical things to make your superstar happy, its another to make a dumb monkey like Lebron the GM. They are giving him who he wants and that guy is a proven moron, he picked Antawn Jamison over Amare.

Its like when Kobe thought it would be brilliant to trade Jason Kidd for Andrew Bynum and later on admitted that would have been a dumb move once Gasol came along.

Trading Bynum for 25 year old Kidd would have been an amazing move. Come on besteva, you're comparing Love to scrub-ass Antawn Jamison? They're not doing the deal because they're scared of losing LeBron, they're doing the deal because they're getting an elite bigman for pennies on the dollar.

[Thebesteva]

Trading Bynum for 25 year old Kidd would have been an amazing move. Come on besteva, you're comparing Love to scrub-ass Antawn Jamison? They're not doing the deal because they're scared of losing LeBron, they're doing the deal because they're getting an elite bigman for pennies on the dollar.

Whoa there my nig, Jason Kidd is 41 years old. He was already on a steady decline at that point in 2007 (when he was 34 years old not 25). Don't get me wrong, he is 1 billion times the player Bynum ever was but that 2009-10 Lakers team wsa built on height Bynum+gasol+Odom etc. Everyone knows Phil Jackson doesnt use PG's efficiently in the triangle, he just has them camp for 3 pointers so it was pointless of Kobe to pretend he was a GM.

As for comparing Love to Antawn, I am not. I am however saying Lebron has a history of putting on his GM hat and failing miserably. The difference betwee nthe Miami FO and Clevelands is they had the balls to tell LEbron NO, which is why he left. Cleveland does not

[ElNono]

This is really all the Wolves can get for Love? You trade the franchise for a promising project and junk?

[baseline bum]

Whoa there my nig, Jason Kidd is 41 years old. He was already on a steady decline at that point in 2007 (when he was 34 years old not 25). Don't get me wrong, he is 1 billion times the player Bynum ever was but that 2009-10 Lakers team wsa built on height Bynum+gasol+Odom etc. Everyone knows Phil Jackson doesnt use PG's efficiently in the triangle, he just has them camp for 3 pointers so it was pointless of Kobe to pretend he was a GM.

Which is why this is completely different than Bynum for Kidd. Love is in the beginning of his prime.

As for comparing Love to Antawn, I am not. I am however saying Lebron has a history of putting on his GM hat and failing miserably. The difference betwee nthe Miami FO and Clevelands is they had the balls to tell LEbron NO, which is why he left. Cleveland does not

He left because Wade's game has fallen off a cliff, because Bosh isn't getting any better at age 30, because Arison got cheap with the roster, because Miami had no reasonable way to get better, because he'd have the press sucking his balls for returning home , and because he had a team with more young talent to go to. This isn't LeBron putting on his GM hat. This is Cleveland making an obvious deal for one of the top players in league for an outstanding but still unproven prospect with some real question marks.

[baseline bum]

This is really all the Wolves can get for Love? You trade the franchise for a promising project and junk?

You never win these kind of deals unless Isiah is on the other end of the call tbh.

[Chinook]

You never win these kind of deals unless Isiah is on the other end of the call tbh.

True. As bad as Deron Williams has been, Utah still got basically nothing for him except a huge contract and a couple of endless projects.

[Phillip]

in the meantime, Cavs are trying to get Shawn Marion to bolster their defense a bit.

[Chinook]

in the meantime, Cavs are trying to get Shawn Marion to bolster their defense a bit.

It could help a lot if Marion could have a Battier-like impact. I still think they're coming hard after Danny Green next July.

[baseline bum]

It could help a lot if Marion could have a Battier-like impact. I still think they're coming hard after Danny Green next July.

If they renounce Thompson and Waiters they might be able to offer $6.5 million or so starting. I think the Spurs would match that four year deal and that he'd stay if the team still looked to be a contender. Of course if Duncan retires he could end up choosing to play for a le in Cleveland, which I couldn't hold against him. But most likely Cleveland would just have MLE to offer, as Thompson has James' agent and will surely get paid for Rich Paul bringing LeBron back to Cleveland. I think Green will get way better offers than the MLE.

[benefactor]

You never win these kind of deals unless Isiah is on the other end of the call tbh.

never forget

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=5261731

[mavsfan1000]

Lol Cavs going after the most overrated player in the league.

[TXstbobcat]

This is really all the Wolves can get for Love? You trade the franchise for a promising project and junk?

I agree with you that Cleveland is getting the better part of this deal. I work with some wolves fans that think Wiggins will be the savior but I don't think he is a sure thing. I've seen too many high lottery picks turn out to be busts.

[Chinook]

If they renounce Thompson and Waiters they might be able to offer $6.5 million or so starting. I think the Spurs would match that four year deal and that he'd stay if the team still looked to be a contender. Of course if Duncan retires he could end up choosing to play for a le in Cleveland, which I couldn't hold against him. But most likely Cleveland would just have MLE to offer, as Thompson has James' agent and will surely get paid for Rich Paul bringing LeBron back to Cleveland. I think Green will get way better offers than the MLE.

He might, but if Tim and Manu go off to the glue factory, Danny may rejoin his friend and original team in order to chase rings. He might well be their missing piece next year. Also, the Cavs will have Haywood to trade, so they could potentially make a compe ive S&T offer for Green or another FA.