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surprise lebron hasnt reach out to mo williams...
since his going after former players to try one more time
if they somehow steal danny green next year? i be lol at the spurs FO and that turd enrique
surprise lebron hasnt reach out to mo williams...
since his going after former players to try one more time
if they somehow steal danny green next year? i be lol at the spurs FO and that turd enrique
I dont see whats fun about seing bennet play tbh
, I never even thought about that. Good call. Hopefully he has some loyalty for the team that didn't give up on him and made him into the player he is today, tbh.
And when Jim Buss, for the second time put his foot down and repudiated Kobe. That's how we're at 16 instead of 14.
Jim Buss
Bynum was a one legged scrub in both of those playoffs who gave them replacement level production. Couldve found any number of seven footers to replicate what he did those years
Well, of course they could. But, Bynum actually did it unlike your seven footer who permitted in turn his wife & some named Battier to break his hole.
Actually, SA gave up on him twice.
No my man they lost Lebron the first time around because they wouldn't trade JJ Hickson for Amar'e.. Now they've learned from their mistake, but they're taking too far imo.
The real amazing move would have been trading bag for Marion and 26-year-old Kidd like Phil wanted to do....
Boom tspense coming thru again
Cavs displaying their inept management skills again. Trading away both Bennett and Wiggins when they are the ones with all the leverage? T-wolves don't have any other offers that even come close to the potential of Wiggins. Love already publicly declared he will leave the Wolves.
Cavs should have just passed on the trade. They don't have enough salary to match Love without throwing in both their number 1 pick players. It's just not good value. Cavs could have at least asked for a first round pick.
The Wolves would just hold onto Love until February then, as the Wiggins trade will always be there.
What if Wiggins is balling by then and the Cavs told the Wolves to get ed? I just don't see why the Wolves think they're calling the shots here. They're risking losing Love for nothing. Just a ty organization, imo.
El, with a rare moment of clarity. Must be off the sauce this morning.
This smells a smidge like Silver/NYC stepped in and put a governer on it.
I'm on ing antibiotics... feels like I'm radioactive or something...
The longer the Wolves hold onto Love, the more desperate they become. The closer it gets to the deadline, the closer Love will leave for nothing. Right now they can maintain the illusion that they have a high bargaining position but the closer it gets to the deadline, all their perceived leverage will evaporate. Wiggins is the best potential player the Wolves are going to get. The Cavs should either not do the deal with Bennett involved or ask for a Wolves first rounder back (maybe swapped with Cavs first rounder).
even if he walks, who has the cap to offer him a max deal? compared to the max deal the wolves can give him or a sign n trade
The Cavaliers don't have any leverage. The Timberwolves have the leverage because they have Kevin Love and the Cavaliers don't.
If I were the Cavs, I'd just trade for Young now. He's a good player who'd help the team out, and he's also the other guy the Wolves want. Then Cleveland can wait the Wolves out, since Wiggins and Young beats any other offer. Eventually, Cleveland can push for a trade involving just Young and sweeteners who aren't Wiggins.
Worst case, the Cavs trade what they were already prepared to trade while having an easier time matching salaries. Best case, they get to keep Wiggins by offering Thad, Haywood and picks near the deadline.
The only risk is if Minny still desperately wants to surround Rubio with Spaniards. Then Chicago may have a compelling offer.
Not sure why the Cavs are so desperate to pull the trigger. Play Wiggins a few months, see if he pans out, then pull the trigger around mid season before the new year. You display Wiggins, develop him, drive up his stock, get the Wolves to become more desperate, and reduce your out going costs.
Love, no matter where he's traded, will seriously consider the Cavs anyways, a sign and trade could be done then, likely with a lower cost than what you are putting out now.
Love + Lebron + Irving is not a sure fire championship team, there are obvious issues with defense. Why mortgage your future for a Finals appearance, when you will make the finals anyways out East with Lebron? The Cavs would be a scary perimeter defense team with Lebron and Wiggins (as long as he learn the principles), you put a few serviceable big around them, and you have the 10's version of the Jordan Bulls.
Also, why not use Irving as the centre piece? Build around that instead. Use him to get a defensive center and a stretch four. Add a few outside shooting "PGs", and the team is set of the next 5 years, challenging, or even the favourites, for the le every single year.
Wiggins may or may not pan out, but his potential is huge, and his athleticism will allow him to be an elite defender. Playing under the tutelage of Lebron will give Wiggins an enormous head start on offense, much like how Pippen learned from Jordan.
As much as I like Wiggins's potential I don't think he'll be anywhere near ready to contribute at a championship level this year- not even close. If Kobe and McGrady weren't ready to play at that level as rookies I don't see why Wiggins would be.
IMO if the Cavaliers don't make this deal they aren't even as good as Chicago in the East, presuming Rose stays healthy. At least not this year.
Cavs are going all in. Wiggins will be a top 5 NBA player in the NBA within 3 years tbh... might be a mistake. I'm not even sure Kevin Love would put the Cavs over the top to beat us or OKC.
Last edited by dg7md; 08-06-2014 at 05:04 AM.
Don't undersell LeBron's impact. Not to mention you guys have a really good young point who will be very effective playing alongside the best player in the game. You guys are already the best team in the East.
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