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  1. #1701
    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Why do you even bother to post when this ^ is the most you ever add to any thread?
    You truly are useless, you're not even funny except when making a fool of yourself.
    And that barely qualifies for comic relief.
    Lol butthurt

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    indeed. but it wasn't a short term process that took only a million years or so

    its not like you had 100 generations of fish fish fish and BAM suddenly the next generation is lizard
    There's lots of people on both sides of this theory (evolution) not surprisingly.
    But I have never found it to contradict my Christianity in the slightest, and it was even taught to me in the Catholic grade school I attended, so it apparently didn't conflict with them either.

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    So says the guy who was molested when you attended private school.
    Difference is,............... you liked it and begged for more!

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    There's lots of people on both sides of this theory (evolution) not surprisingly.
    But I have never found it to contradict my Christianity in the slightest, and it was even taught to me in the Catholic grade school I attended, so it apparently didn't conflict with them either.
    it contradicts the book of genesis quite heavily, for those who take it literally of course

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    This is probably old news around here since it came out in 2004 and has yet to be debunked, but I found it to be interesting in light of someone bringing up the "burden of proof" issue.
    Some of the leading religious clerics are upset about it because they think it "undermines a fundamental tenet of faith, that spiritual enlightenment is achieved through divine transformation", but others are glad because it shows the existence of God and a sign of His ingenuity.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-111404-8087r/

    Geneticist claims to have found ‘God gene’ in humans

    By - The Washington Times - Sunday, November 14, 2004

    LONDON — An American molecular geneticist has concluded after comparing more than 2,000 DNA samples that a person’s capacity to believe in God is linked to brain chemicals.

    His findings have been criticized by leading clerics, who challenge the existence of a “God gene” and say the research undermines a fundamental tenet of faith — that spiritual enlightenment is achieved through divine transformation rather than the brain’s electrical impulses.

    Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the National Cancer Ins ute in Bethesda, asked volunteers 226 questions in order to determine how spiritually connected they felt to the universe.

    The higher their score, the greater the person’s ability to believe in a greater spiritual force and, Mr. Hamer found, the more likely they were to share the gene VMAT2.

    Studies on twins showed that those with this gene, a vesicular monoamine transporter that regulates the flow of mood-altering chemicals in the brain, were more likely to develop a spiritual belief.

    Growing up in a religious environment was said to have little effect on belief.

    Mr. Hamer, who in 1993 claimed to have identified a DNA sequence linked to male sexuality, said the existence of the “God gene” explained why some people had more ap ude for spirituality than others.

    “Buddha, Muhammad and Jesus all shared a series of mystical experiences or alterations in consciousness and thus probably carried the gene,” he said. “This means that the tendency to be spiritual is part of genetic makeup. This is not a thing that is strictly handed down from parents to children. It could skip a generation. It’s like intelligence.”
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    His findings, published in a book, “The God Gene: How Faith Is Hard-Wired Into Our Genes,” are being greeted skeptically by many in the religious establishment.

    The Rev. John Polkinghorne, a fellow of the Royal Society and a canon theologian at Liverpool Cathedral, said: “The idea of a God gene goes against all my personal theological convictions. You can’t cut faith down to the lowest common denominator of genetic survival. It shows the poverty of reductionist thinking.”

    The Rev. Walter Houston, the chaplain of Mansfield College, Oxford, and a fellow in theology, said: “Religious belief is not just related to a person’s cons ution. It’s related to society, tradition, character — everything’s involved. Having a gene that could do all that seems pretty unlikely to me.”

    Mr. Hamer insisted, however, that his research was not an hetical to a belief in God.

    “Religious believers can point to the existence of God genes as one more sign of the Creator’s ingenuity — a clever way to help humans acknowledge and embrace a divine presence,” he said.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    So says the guy who was molested when you attended private school.
    Difference is,............... you liked it and begged for more!
    Wow. Vivid.

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    I can't believe anyone STILL argues this stuff. I haven't read anything recent here but I gurantee we will never ever ever ever read.....ya know what, you're right I was wrong.

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    Mr. Hamer insisted, however, that his research was not an hetical to a belief in God.

    “Religious believers can point to the existence of God genes as one more sign of the Creator’s ingenuity — a clever way to help humans acknowledge and embrace a divine presence,” he said.

    I have a good feeling that the more science discovers, the more we will be assured of the existence of God.

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    So says the guy who was molested when you attended private school.
    Difference is,............... you liked it and begged for more!
    This is really what you're reduced to now?

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    This is really what you're reduced to now?
    Only with respect to blake, he is getting back what he puts out.

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    A lot of people not understanding science in this thread. Not just theists, either.

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    A lot of people not understanding science in this thread. Not just theists, either.
    Science is necessary, I have never seen it as a threat to my beliefs.
    I have no idea why anyone would see it that way.
    I also have no idea why so many atheists find theism so threatening that they feel the need to ridicule, deride, and attack those of us who believe.
    This doesn't happen with me and my Christian or other theistic faiths and my atheistic brethren, nor with other religious people either.
    We all get along and respect each other and our beliefs, or disbelief, just fine.
    Plus we all study and respect the value of science in our lives too.
    In fact most of us wholeheartedly embrace science in our lives in varying degrees.
    So why all the flak on here, I wonder?
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    In fact in real life when we get together we can discuss it and laugh, regardless of what the other person believes or does not believe, with lots of playful humor and kidding, but never with the venom that we get on here.
    What's up with that?

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    So says the guy who was molested when you attended private school.
    Difference is,............... you liked it and begged for more!
    ^troll post

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    He gets back, what he puts out.

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    Science is necessary, I have never seen it as a threat to my beliefs.
    I have no idea why anyone would see it that way.
    I also have no idea why so many atheists find theism so threatening that they feel the need to ridicule, deride, and attack those of us who believe.
    This doesn't happen with me and my Christian or other theistic faiths and my atheistic brethren, nor with other religious people either.
    We all get along and respect each other and our beliefs, or disbelief, just fine.
    Plus we all study and respect the value of science in our lives too.
    In fact most of us wholeheartedly embrace science in our lives in varying degrees.
    So why all the flak on here, I wonder?
    As I said, a lot of people misunderstand science as it pertains to knowledge. That leads both to folks dismissing it and misattributing powers to it.
    Last edited by Chinook; 08-05-2014 at 07:38 PM.

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    He gets back, what he puts out.
    a troll post, nonetheless

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    So, are you also saying that 95% of his posts are troll posts?
    If not, then what percentage?
    And if so, then why do you never point it out?

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    Blake has never insisted he doesn't troll

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    Blake has never insisted he doesn't troll
    That is all he does.

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    That is all he does.
    Not true.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    So, are you also saying that 95% of his posts are troll posts?
    If not, then what percentage?
    And if so, then why do you never point it out?
    I'd say 95% of your posts contain my name in them.

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    American molecular geneticist, Mr. Hamer insists, "that his research was not an hetical to a belief in God.

    Religious believers can point to the existence of God genes as one more sign of the Creator’s ingenuity — a clever way to help humans acknowledge and embrace a divine presence,” he said.

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    i point it out, xmas, because you always claim to not be a troll, when its clear you are. you derail threads and give personal insults all the time, tbh

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    American molecular geneticist, Mr. Hamer insists, "that his research was not an hetical to a belief in God.

    Religious believers can point to the existence of God genes as one more sign of the Creator’s ingenuity — a clever way to help humans acknowledge and embrace a divine presence,” he said.

    Trust me: if that were true there would be an OTC kit available to see if you have the God gene.

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