Not to mention he looked completely pathetic in the games he actually played last seasonThey really think Kobe is going to come off a ruptured achilles + missed playoffs and knee injury + missed 76 games and average 27/5/5 at 36 or 37 years old...
And I thought the gnsfs upstairs were re ed..
Realistically, only Denver, Sacramento and Utah have comparably poor rosters to the Lakers, tbh..Minnesota if they lose Love, as well..
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=169696
27/5/4. I think his assist numbers are going to go down but his scoring will be there. I dont know if hes going to be efficient as before.
Good luck...I want a Kobe that doesnt feel the need to take 25 shots per game....A Kobe who realizes he is no longer a youngun, plays smart BB and doesn't try to do it all on his own.
I expect him to be at least a top 10 player in the league this upcoming season. On a team full of wild cards, he will be our 1 constant.
I expect him to be at least a top 10 player in the league this upcoming season. On a team full of wild cards, he will be our 1 constant.
Kobe being efficient
Thanks for the gem Sportstudi, the completely delusional posts from LG was just ridiculous.Another week, another gem
And a direct answer to this post
Jesus Christ, how on God's green earth can you be that dumb and delusional? Seriously, no fan base in the entire NBA is so far away from reality than the Kobe homers. This is just embarrassing. Not even the worst LeBron or Jordan homers can have such idiotic thoughts.
If anything, Kobe was the poster child for a player who benefitted from the league rule changes. The league was desperate to create the next Jordan, that coupled with low scoring games in the 90s made the league loosen up perimeter defense.
For the 00-01 season, hand-checking was no longer allowed above the FT line extended, and weakside help outside the paint was severely limited.
While the former rule was obvious in limiting a perimeter defensive player's ability to defender penetrating wing players, the later rule, along with the increasing number of stretch 4s and 5s, forced defensive big men to abandon the lane, and opened up the lane for penetrating SG and SF. The result is essentially an open highway to the basket for skilled wing players.
Kobe Bryant's scoring average went from 22.5ppg to 28.5ppg
AI 28.4 to 31.1
Tmac 15.4 to 26.8 (also a MUCH heavier burden with the Magic vs. with the Raptors)
Carter 25.7 to 27.6
Jerry Stackhouse 23.6 to 29.8
Pierce 19.5 to 25.3
Marbury 22.2 to 23.9
4 of the top 5, and 7 of the top 10 scorers in 00-01 were perimeter scorers
Where as the year before that, only 3 of the top 5, and 5 of the top 10 were perimeter scorers.
Kobe Bryant owes most of his scoring to rule changes in that particular year.
I am not sure actually why my brethren Laker fans think Kobe is going to be at 80% at this point. Sports are slightly unpredictable, but I can easily see Kobe seeing this team is not even close to .500, actually getting injured and sitting out this season and pretty much next season. I also see Kobe trying to go to a contender in his final season to win 1 ring only adding to the hilarity that is $48 million contract for Kobe.Not to mention he looked completely pathetic in the games he actually played last season
Realistically, only Denver, Sacramento and Utah have comparably poor rosters to the Lakers, tbh..Minnesota if they lose Love, as well..
It's not only the no-handchecking-rule which has benefitted Kobe. You can also add the fact the camping in the lane is forbidden thanks to the 3-second-violation. That has made it harder to protect the paint against driving guards.
Yes, the defensive 3-second rule probably had an even bigger impact because it stopped big men from clogging the lane. I am just not sure when that rule was implemented.
That rule has come into force with the beginning of the 2001-2002 season.
I got beat by the new-look Lakers in 2k by my office colleague. Twice. I think I'm gonna quit playing 2k for a while
Even if Kobe miraculously returns to form, his supporting cast is so awful(and the coach, especially)..
This. The best you could possibly hope for from Kobe (which is a stretch) is to have him play at 2012-2013 levels... and even then with an infinitely more talented cast they had to fight and claw into the playoffs. They didn't even clinch a spot in the last day of the regular season.
And this assuming Kobe is completely recovered from the achilles, the knee, and hasn't aged in 2 years
(never gets old)
As Skip Bayless of all people put it, even in his prime in 2006, Kobe without Phil Jackson at helm couldnt lead a sorry cast past the first round. The real brain of the operations has always been Phil. Kobe and MJ are just their working koons
Kobe's Fuel: The List of those that have insulted or criticized Kobe before the season begins.
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:43 am Post subject: Kobe's Fuel: The List of those that have insulted or criticized Kobe before the season begins.
It's time to make a list of the guys that are going to eat crow once Kobe silences them this season. This is in no particular order. Let me know if I'm forgetting anything. This is Kobe's fuel so this is important.
1) ESPN leaves Kobe out of the top 10 Shooting Guards.
2) Soccer Coach Jurgen's saying Kobe contract undeserved: "This always happens in America.Kobe Bryant, for example -- why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
2) NBA 2K15 Will rank Kobe only at an 89...not in the 90s like old man role player(not even an All-Star) Duncan, Durant, or Lebron.
3) Klay Thompson's people say he is the best shooting guard(even better than Kobe).
4) Lebron leaves Kobe out of his Mt. Rushmore, does not join Lakers in free agency.
5) Bosh, Wade, and Carmelo does not join Lakers and Kobe in free agency.
5) NBA GM(likely Dan Gilbert): "Kobe has zero trade value."
6) Steve Nash: Kobe is a "a**hole*
7) Dwight Howard leaves the Lakers to join Harden.
8) Pau Gasol leaves for the Bulls to Join Derrick Rose.
9) Kevin Durant says Allen Iverson is the best pound for pound player of all time(not Kobe who is).
10) Dwyane Wade says Kobe is "Second best all time."
Too bad ST didn't make the list
Too bad ST didn't make the list
i could see Kobe doing that snarl thing with all the rape tbombs.
#2 and #5 were so important...they had to be listed twice.
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It's time to make a list of the guys that are going to eat crow once Kobe silences them this season. This is in no particular order. Let me know if I'm forgetting anything. This is Kobe's fuel so this is important.
1) ESPN leaves Kobe out of the top 10 Shooting Guards.
2) Soccer Coach Jurgen's saying Kobe contract undeserved: "This always happens in America.Kobe Bryant, for example -- why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
2) NBA 2K15 Will rank Kobe only at an 89...not in the 90s like old man role player(not even an All-Star) Duncan, Durant, or Lebron.
3) Klay Thompson's people say he is the best shooting guard(even better than Kobe).
4) Lebron leaves Kobe out of his Mt. Rushmore, does not join Lakers in free agency.
5) Bosh, Wade, and Carmelo does not join Lakers and Kobe in free agency.
5) NBA GM(likely Dan Gilbert): "Kobe has zero trade value."
6) Steve Nash: Kobe is a "a**hole*
7) Dwight Howard leaves the Lakers to join Harden.
8) Pau Gasol leaves for the Bulls to Join Derrick Rose.
9) Kevin Durant says Allen Iverson is the best pound for pound player of all time(not Kobe who is).
10) Dwyane Wade says Kobe is "Second best all time."
#2 and #5 were so important...they had to be listed twice.
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It's time to make a list of the guys that are going to eat crow once Kobe silences them this season. This is in no particular order. Let me know if I'm forgetting anything. This is Kobe's fuel so this is important.
1) ESPN leaves Kobe out of the top 10 Shooting Guards.
2) Soccer Coach Jurgen's saying Kobe contract undeserved: "This always happens in America.Kobe Bryant, for example -- why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
2) NBA 2K15 Will rank Kobe only at an 89...not in the 90s like old man role player(not even an All-Star) Duncan, Durant, or Lebron.
3) Klay Thompson's people say he is the best shooting guard(even better than Kobe).
4) Lebron leaves Kobe out of his Mt. Rushmore, does not join Lakers in free agency.
5) Bosh, Wade, and Carmelo does not join Lakers and Kobe in free agency.
5) NBA GM(likely Dan Gilbert): "Kobe has zero trade value."
6) Steve Nash: Kobe is a "a**hole*
7) Dwight Howard leaves the Lakers to join Harden.
8) Pau Gasol leaves for the Bulls to Join Derrick Rose.
9) Kevin Durant says Allen Iverson is the best pound for pound player of all time(not Kobe who is).
10) Dwyane Wade says Kobe is "Second best all time."
Did I somehow miss Nash calling him an asshole and didn't realize it?? When did this happen? In what context? I need to know
^ It was a "compliment": http://www.si.com/longform/kobe/
This approach—Bryant likens it to the unpleasant task of telling a dinnermate he has “s--- in his teeth”—does not go over well all the time. Like with Dwight Howard, for example. Others appreciate it. During filming, Chopra interviewed a number of Bryant’s teammates, current and former, and he asked them to describe Bryant in three words. After each interview Kobe would text Chopra, eager to hear what people said. Most answered with some variation of “the ultimate compe or” or “killer instinct.” But when Chopra asked Steve Nash, he said something different. After thinking for a moment, Nash answered, slowly, in three beats: “Mother . . . f------ . . . a------.”
moar Kirby spreading his basketball knowledge...
The Chinese teenagers, chosen by Nike as much for their backstories as their skill, need plenty of help. A handful might qualify as D-III players in the U.S. Many wouldn’t make a high school JV squad. There are no Yao Ming–esque giants. Most hew closer to the Jeremy Lin model: quick on the dribble, attack the basket, suspect jumper, pass-second.This last element becomes magnified when Kobe is watching. Over the course of the week the contestants rotate through half-court five-on-five games. When Bryant is near, whichever kid has the ball invariably backs up and waves away his teammates, then goes one-on-five and attempts a crazy finish. Doing his best to be diplomatic, Bryant offers encouragement. “That’s some good D!” he says.
Ostensibly, the hysterical fans who arrive during the week are there to cheer on the reality show, but they couldn’t care less about these teenagers. Rather,they wait for Bryant to turn in their direction, at which point they raise their banners and their light-up MVP signs and scream their throats out. Every minute or so they break into spontaneous KOH-BEE! chants. For two hours. It looks exhausting.
In the U.S., or many other places, there would be an acknowledgement of the show’s naked marketing, an eye-rolling, snark-soliciting acquiescence by those on hand. Not here. Here they eat it up. Jake Bloch, Gotham’s 25‑year-old producer, who happens to be half Chinese, refers to it as China’s “preironic” mind-set. When Kobe signs basketballs at the end of one taping and throws them to the crowd, scrums break out as dozens of teens grapple and fall and tear at the leather. It is disturbing. Like Lord of the Flies. At one point during the taping of the show, a girl plays the trumpet for Kobe, one-handed, while dribbling a basketball, and the song is Celine Dion’s “My Heart Will Go On,” the romantic ballad from anic.
Amid everything else, it seems totally normal.
i could see Kobe doing that snarl thing with all the rape tbombs.
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