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What is happening is perfectly predictable. One word: Yugoslavia.
Not here. You couldn't pay me to give a about the ME. Cordon it off, and if it spills outside, then go clean up there. As a wise man once said, the ME is ed and un able. There's nothing there for the US. We even produce more oil now, so that angle doesn't work anymore.
Frankly, if they become a pest outside that area, the US should be prepared to turn the whole place into a giant parking lot, Nagasaki style.
What is happening is perfectly predictable. One word: Yugoslavia.
Question for the liberals...do you guys support Obama bombing Iraq now?
In what sense?
I'd hit ISIS
I am waiting for Fox news to tell me if I should be mad Obama is bombing Iraq now or if I should be mad Obama didn't bomb Iraq sooner. I will withhold judgement until I have received instructions.
Seriously though, none of this surprises me. Obama's foreign policy has been to poke the hornet's nest and then try and sprinkle in some humanitarian aid to soothe things over. The locals appreciate the aid until they are killed. If he wants to meddle in the Middle East he's going about it all wrong.
Obama needs to be like this....
just get. the . out.
Shouldn't have been there to begin with, BUT since we decided to, we should have stayed. Had we stayed, none of this would be going on. You can't just walk away and declare a war over because you say it's over.
Time to up ISIS, just heard France is joining us from Jordan.
i respectfully disagree. because we made a stupid decision years ago, we must follow through with the same stupid decision making?
What kind of problems are a bunch of dead people going to cause?Yes. "Kill em all" would definitely solve the problems in the Middle East.Stay upstairs in the NBA forum, dude.
It was stupid decision making that has led to the out of control ISIS. Do you think they'd be doing what they are doing if we still had a presence in Iraq? I agree we never should have been there, but we were. And since we were, we should have stayed and cleaned up our mess.
evidence from Iraq?
We know US/EU got the democratically elected, pro-Russian Pres out which caused the current crisis, but in Iraq?
How many $100Bs and 1000s more of US and Iraqi lives are you willing to spend on "cleaning up dubya/ head/BigOil's mess". How are you certain that the current SECTARIAN sunni/shiite MESS is solvable by further US boots on the ground?
Has is past tense. He's just getting started in Iraq. Look at all the other countries he's poked, how they doing?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/losing-iraq/
You can skip the first 2/3's which do ents GB's monumental ups since we all know what those were. Then they do ent how Obama snatched defeat from the jaws of some semblance of victory by pretending Iraq didn't exist. I think valid arguments can be made for having an obligation to intervene and staying completely out of it and letting the region solve their own problems. The trouble with Obama is he can't make up his mind which way to go.
"from the jaws of some semblance of victory"
to whom was there a semblance of victory?
VN, Afghanistan, Iraq, all ed up and LOST, no victory ever possible.
I will describe a country. You tell me whether I am talking about Yugoslavia or Iraq.
This country's boundaries were drawn by the old European imperial powers around the time of the first world war.
This country's arbitrary boundaries included groups of differing ethnicities and religions that had been killing each other for centuries before it became a country.
After it became a country, it was ruled by a series of totalitarian police states.
After the last strongman was swept away, the groups of people that had been kept from killing each other by secret police and torturers suddenly started killing each other, and the country fragmented.
Flashback, lol
Re Iraq - You broke it, you fix it. And then stick O'Reilly's anti-french sticker over your mouth
RandomGuy Re Yugoslavia - We joined up all on our own, no imperialist intervention necessary. After WWI we were a bunch of small, mostly new Slavic nation-states with neighbors like Italy, Austria (Germany), Hungary, Bulgaria, remains of Ottoman empire (Turkey) nearby...great company to keep in the 1st half of 20th century and no realistic way of going at it alone. Somebody would annex you quicker than you can say annexationAfter that raison d'etre was gone Yugoslavia disintegrated, unfortunately into a bloody mess. Rest is correct.
"stupid decision making that has led to the out of control ISIS"
which stupid decisions?
Obama implementing the Repug withdrawal was stupid?
So you would prefer US occupying Iraq, 11 years already, indefinitely to maintain the peace?
He was, but he had rules.
People understood how to behave, they had ins utions.
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