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  1. #51
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    And nowhere in this thread did I say George was an elite offensive player (despite scoring 20+ppg). I said Blake *was*. So I'm not sure why that issue is being debated. Griffin is obviously a more dominating offensive presence than George. He's just on D.

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    Again, on a team with no other offensive threats. Howard would be the 2nd best player on the Pacers on offense by a WIDE margin, and that's saying something.

    It's almost like you think these things occur in a vacuum and someone with John Stockton on his team would get the same looks as a guy who's got George Hill running point.
    And shot a lower percentage than Stephenson, Hibbert, Hill, and David West. George is a of an offensive threat himself

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    And shot a lower percentage than Stephenson, Hibbert, Hill, and David West. George is a of an offensive threat himself
    Stephenson - bench player. If the East's starters are , how good do you think their bench is? We'll have a much better idea of the kind of player Lance is this season. As of now, if you want to anoint him as an elite offensive player, that's your call. He had a good season last year as the 6th man, but that's a far cry from being a primary option.

    Hibbert and West are bigs. We've been over this. Duncan shot a higher percentage on offense last year than Harden, but obviously Harden is a more potent offensive threat. Although as of now your argument means that Duncan is better on offense than Harden.

    Hill took an average of 8 shots per game last year for a total of 10 points. Not even sure why he's in the conversation.

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    And nowhere in this thread did I say George was an elite offensive player (despite scoring 20+ppg). I said Blake *was*. So I'm not sure why that issue is being debated. Griffin is obviously a more dominating offensive presence than George. He's just on D.
    You flat out said George > Griffin

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    You flat out said George > Griffin
    Yes. As a player (and tbh only if he comes back at 100% obviously). Not on offense. Try to keep up. I get that you think offense = basketball but that's not the case.

    To spell it out for you:

    Offense: BG 9/10 PG 7.5/10
    Defense: BG 4/10 PG 9/10

    Is that easier to understand? You do realize that this thread isn't just about scoring ability, right?

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    Yes. As a player (and tbh only if he comes back at 100% obviously). Not on offense. Try to keep up. I get that you think offense = basketball but that's not the case.

    To spell it out for you:

    Offense: BG 9/10 PG 7.5/10
    Defense: BG 4/10 PG 9/10

    Is that easier to understand?
    What a terrible post. Just because he is an elite defender doesn't make him the better player.

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    You use a rating scale (1/10) to determine who is better?

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    What a terrible post. Just because he is an elite defender doesn't make him the better player.
    No, of course not. The fact that Blake looks like a lost child on defense is what makes George the better player.

    But you know, you're probably right. After all, what's the saying? "Offense wins championships"? That's the saying, right?

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    No, of course not. The fact that Blake looks like a lost child on defense is what makes George the better player.

    But you know, you're probably right. After all, what's the saying? "Offense wins championships"? That's the saying, right?
    You make Frizzle look like nostradamus.

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    You use a rating scale (1/10) to determine who is better?
    Yeah, it's pathetic that I need to break it down on such basic, imprecise terms because when I typed "I didn't say George is a better offensive player than Griffin" you immediately come back with the "BUT YOU SAID GEORGE WAS BETTER" rebuttal. Hilarious. Go back and read. I tried to spell it out for you with words, but evidently that was too much for you to handle, so I used basic math. Sorry I had to do that to you.

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    You make Frizzle look like nostradamus.
    Offense wins championships.

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    And nowhere in this thread did I say George was an elite offensive player (despite scoring 20+ppg). I said Blake *was*. So I'm not sure why that issue is being debated. Griffin is obviously a more dominating offensive presence than George. He's just on D.
    You flat out said George > Griffin


    The power of comprehension.

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    Stephen Jackson averaged over 20 points a game in Charlotte..

    Not very impressive stat-padding on a team.

    They were supposed to have all the pieces to make the playoffs this year.. couldn't even reach .500

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    Stephen Jackson averaged over 20 points a game in Charlotte..

    Not very impressive stat-padding on a team.

    They were supposed to have all the pieces to make the playoffs this year.. couldn't even reach .500
    Being the best player and an elite defender on a Conference Finals team is pretty impressive though, from a single season standpoint.

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    You make Frizzle look like nostradamus.
    Yeah, and you make MJ look like Kobe you inbred ing .
    Last edited by N0 LyF3 ScRuB; 08-10-2014 at 02:58 PM.

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    He's just another monta ellis, kevin martin, or David Lee stat padder on ty team.

    Lebron
    Kd
    Paul
    Howard
    Curry
    Westbrook
    Griffin
    Aldridge
    Melo
    Parker

    That's 10 players I'd rather have leading my team over love, in no order

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    He's just another monta ellis, kevin martin, or David Lee stat padder on ty team.
    None of whom comb the glass like Love. Defensive rebounds are incredibly valuable yet somehow underrated still in today's NBA. Lee is FAR worse than Love on D (as in, the worst big in the league defensively who starts), and can't spread the floor on offense.

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    at Blake being a "lost little boy" on defense.... he's not great, but he's a more-or-less average rim protector, and he did show some flashes here and there on the defensive end towards the end of last season.... he's not Harden or Love....

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    Yeah, and you make MJ look like Kobe you imbred ing .

    Kobe going along with other losers like KD and CPIII with the Frizzle .
    This post makes no sense, much like your takes

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    This post makes no sense, much like your takes
    tl;dr

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    Also, if you're going to call someone "inbred," you should at least know how to spell it

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    Having a "pf" who hangs around the 3pt line on offense Isn't my idea of properly spreading the floor. And people wonder why he has never made the playoffs

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    Also, if you're going to call someone "inbred," you should at least know how to spell it
    Way to edit my quote to slay yourself

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    Way to edit my quote to slay yourself
    I didn't edit , that's what you originally posted:


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    You got griffin, aldridge and even Davis this last year who are probably some of the better mid range bigs in the game. Griffin has came a long ways this year and no doubt in my mind is a better player than love on both ends. That goes for aldridge and Davis too.

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