Manu, Tony, flipping Paul George (eh...I mean George Hill) for Kawhi, Tiago...all, while typically selecting at or near the end of draft rounds. Not sure how you can overrate the Spurs success. Compare their history to anyone else, even teams that are seemingly always at the top of the draft board...I can't think of anyone that's done better overall.
i'm definitely not talking about our success from drafting Parker and Manu. I realize how great we have been at scouting overseas prospects. My point is how we've drafted recently 2007 until now. There's no question we deserve all the praise in the world for the ability to target guys. My point is recently....
DeJuan Blair was the starting center for more than one 50 win team, and they got him with the 37th pick.
I'm not trying to knock Spurs Org. definitely not lol But unlike everyone thinks (other teams fans) not everything we touch turns to gold.
Not everything, just way way more than other teams, particularly when you consider they haven't had a high draft pick in 17 years.
Everyone thinks the Spurs have a great front office. They do. Everyone thinks the Spurs draft well. They do.
Just admit you misspoke. Then, and only then..will the bleeding stop.
http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/?p=4516Sure but VIA trade. I'm saying straight up draft. I'm sure if we had lottery picks every year we'd be banking.Then again, one lottery pick is all the spurs ever need
Also, Kawhi pick was essentially a draft pick because the Spurs traded George Hill specifically to draft him.
I hope my eyes deceive me because his performance in the limited games I watched were just meh. It may take him a while to adjust to the speed of the NBA and the athleticism. He also needs quite a bit of help from Chip with his shooting form. Hopefully his smarts will allow him to stay on the floor because it won't be his defense.
Everyone thinks the Spurs have a great front office. They do. Everyone thinks the Spurs draft well. They do.
Just admit you misspoke. Then, and only then..will the bleeding stop.
He was out of position, and rarely touched the ball. As with most players, he's not going to be adding lots of value with his individual defense. Fortunately he was drafted by a team that doesn't rely on individuals shutting down their opponents.
And that's why I'm hopeful. No way will Kyle be expected to start or get huge minutes against big scoring threats. But if you can hide him on a 3 point specialist or something, I think his upside on offense could be a huge boon. We don't need him to play at all, so even if he only gives us 12 "good" minutes per game, that's still a of a deal from the 30th pick overall.
It's very likely he's going to be a situational player. But we're the champions and we dominated the last three rounds of the playoffs. Getting ANYTHING from the draft that adds value to this team is absolutely gravy at this point.
I'd like to see a 2 or 3 make the team that can break down the defense and drive to the hoop. -- Much like Manu once did and Tony does.
You also can't really say he was a bad pick. The injury he suffered was no joke. The same injury happened to Beaubois and Travis Outlaw and both guys were decent players before their injuries. The truth is we will never know how good he could have been. Thankfully the Spurs were able to replace him with Green.
1) Keep in mind that Sam Presti was pivitol to our scouting department and he left in 2007 to be SEA-OKC's GM... since then, they've been drafting immediately before us almost every year.
2) Since Robinson retired, the Spurs have most needed a big man... but big men are twice as likely to be a draft bust as their guard equivalent... spurs have done great at drafting guards.
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...al-by-position
3) Spurs have done AMAZING at picking for their position: According to 82games, a player drafted around where the Spurs usually draft (30) has roughly a 35% chance of making it in the league. http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm
2007: Splitter
2008: George Hill - Traded away for Kawhi + Bertans
2009: (#37) Dejaun Blair - great pick for 2nd round
2010: (#20) James Anderson - our only legitimate bust
2011: Cory Joseph
2012: Traded away the pick to get rid of Jefferson (worth it)
So, in the 5 picks we had around #30 (I'm including #20 Anderson and #37 Blair) since 2007... we've had a 80% success rate (as opposed to the league 35%).
That has to be the best or one of the best trades in the history of the Spurs org, it got them back to two finals after that IMO. Without him forget it! We don't beat Miami. That trade was exceptional.
With George Hill in place of Kawhi, the Spurs don't win the west either of the last two years.
The Spurs are kind of unique since their best players have been added through the draft. The only strange/bad pick to me was Ryan Richards who sucked then and sucks now. I guess he looked like a legit big even if he could not play.
God, could you imagine going against Miami with Richard Jefferson starting against Lebron?
Spurs are 2nd round exits at best with Jefferson/Hill/Anderson.God, could you imagine going against Miami with Richard Jefferson starting against Lebron?
That is a fact.I would agree there too.Spurs are 2nd round exits at best with Jefferson/Hill/Anderson.
Thanks man that's what I was looking for. Can't forget De Colo either wasn't that 2009?
Yes, I was mostly keeping 1st round... but Nando was the 53rd pick in 2009.
82games basically says people picked at 53 have almost no shot to stick in the NBA.
Everyone thinks the Spurs have a great front office. They do. Everyone thinks the Spurs draft well. They do.
Just admit you misspoke. Then, and only then..will the bleeding stop.
That is the new current hole IMHO. We have a lot of 1/2 and 3/4/5...we don't have much of anything at 2/3 that can slash and dribble drive to the rim except Manu, being superb, but long in the tooth. Hanga is the only thing that looks a little intriguing that we have stashed that would fill that role, and I don't know if he'll amount to an NBA player or not.
Hopefully a gem falls to 30th place in the draft this year at 2/3.
Without him, the run as TRUE le contenders is over.
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