Michael Brown shot dead by police

[UZER]

As I said, he should of gotten back into his patrol car or used a different method of self defense. The young man posed no immediate threat to anyone so him using lethal force was not justified.

Because he had no weapon he posed no lethal threat? We know he didn't have a weapon after the fact. How did the cop know he didn't have a weapon at that time. Damn you watch too many movies/ tv shows wanting perfect justice on the streets. It ain't like that in real life.

"The cop should have gotten back in car" . You've got to be trolling with that nonsense.

[RD2191]

Because he had no weapon he posed no lethal threat? We know he didn't have a weapon after the fact. How did the cop know he didn't have a weapon at that time. Damn you watch too many movies/ tv shows wanting perfect justice on the streets. It ain't like that in real life.

"The cop should have gotten back in car" . You've got to be trolling with that nonsense.

Don't talk to me about real life. I was raised in the hood, son. And the cop knew he didn't have a gun seeing as the man ran away, if he had a gun and was going to use it you think he'd run from the cop? The man was 30-35 feet away according to the cop, that is in no way an immediate threat, especially without a gun.

[Chomag]

Wouldn't A 6' 4 250+ pound angry, and defiant black man be a pretty powerful weapon with in itself?

[RD2191]

Isn't A 6' 4 250+ pound angry, and defiant black man is a pretty powerful weapon with in itself?

What does black have anything to do with it? There's you and the cops problem right there.

[Chomag]

What does black have anything to do with it? There's you and the cops problem right there.

Wait he wast black?

[Fabbs]

Don't talk to me about real life. I was raised in the hood, son. And the cop knew he didn't have a gun seeing as the man ran away, if he had a gun and was going to use it you think he'd run from the cop? The man was 30-35 feet away according to the cop, that is in no way an immediate threat, especially without a gun.

Brown ran away from the cop = for a fact he must not have had a gun?

What a croc of .

[RD2191]

Brown ran away from the cop = for a fact he must not have had a gun?

What a croc of .

Not a fact. But if a person who supposedly has no fear of dying in your eyes had a gun and was willing to attack you don't you think he would of used it in the first place? Yeah, let me attack this cop who is armed while I keep my gun in my pocket/pants. Makes perfect sense. The cop knew for a fact that the young man was not armed, he should just admit to being a huge vagina who panicked/overreacted.

[RD2191]

Wait he wast black?

Does it matter, you're assuming that just because he was black that made him an even bigger threat?

[Fabbs]

Not a fact...... The cop knew for a fact that the young man was not armed,.....

Make up your mind.
Thank you Janteal, no further questions.
Judge: You may step down.

Look, if this is not another jury of racist agenda driven (OJ 1) or re s (Casey Anthony) or a paid off judge (Koward K Stern and Doktor Ersovich) then the mudslinging like you are trying is gonna be exposed just for what it is.

[~O~]

Because he had no weapon he posed no lethal threat? We know he didn't have a weapon after the fact. How did the cop know he didn't have a weapon at that time. Damn you watch too many movies/ tv shows wanting perfect justice on the streets. It ain't like that in real life.

"The cop should have gotten back in car" . You've got to be trolling with that nonsense.

I believe the cop made a heat of the moment decision. However, they said he "held his hands up" supposedly. He didn't reach for a weapon to defend himself. In other words, there was no reason to shoot him. Just prosecute his ass and make him do time for being a dumbass. If he's going to reach for an officer's gun, that's almost an intent to kill. We're talking about reaching for an "officer's" gun. Not a regular person who is threatening your life with a gun your face but an officer of the law who is trying to maintain the area.

If he gained possession of the gun, who knows what he would have done.

I believe that situation was an adrenaline rush......had to be. A guy reaching for your gun and you didn't know what he was capable of.

[InRareForm]

[Clipper Nation]

Nice strawman, but plenty of small-government advocates have been up in arms over the militarization of police because of how the peaceful protestors and journalists were treated....

[spurraider21]

How is a wounded unarmed person a threat to a trained police officer holding a gun?

thats useless unless you shoot it, tbh

[InRareForm]

Nice strawman, but plenty of small-government advocates have been up in arms over the militarization of police because of how the peaceful protestors and journalists were treated....

but where are the enthusiast carriers, why aren't they there?

[RD2191]

thats useless unless you shoot it, tbh

[DMX7]

I don't see the race factor involved here.

[InRareForm]

Racist Cops firing tear gas in front and behind protestors.

[InRareForm]

https://vine.co/v/M3iWetEFMPu

on their own property being shot at.

wow.

[Jacob1983]

What if the cop was reaching for a taser but shot his gun? Oh wait, that already happened.

[Fabbs]

Racist Cops firing tear gas in front and behind protestors.

Now if they can just get the gas on both sides......

[Fabbs]

Racist Cops firing tear gas in front and behind protestors.

Hey, we might have hope for a truce and some peace.
Here is one of the protestors asking for a cease fire:

[SnakeBoy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us...imes.html?_r=0
FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.

Dr. Michael Baden, right, and Prof. Shawn Parcells in Ferguson, Mo. Dr. Baden, based in New York, examined Michael Brown. Credit Eric Thayer for The New York Times

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said Sunday that the Justice Department would conduct its own autopsy, in addition to the one performed by local officials and this private one because, a department spokesman said, of “the extraordinary cir stances involved in this case and at the request of the Brown family.”

The preliminary autopsy results are the first time that some of the critical information resulting in Mr. Brown’s death has been made public. Thousands of protesters demanding information and justice for what was widely viewed as a reckless shooting took to the streets here in rallies that ranged from peaceful to violent.

Mr. Brown died last week in a confrontation with a police officer here in this suburb of St. Louis. The police department has come under harsh criticism for refusing to clarify the cir stances of the shooting and for responding to protests with military-style operational gear.

“People have been asking: How many times was he shot? This information could have been released on Day 1,” Dr. Baden said in an interview after performing the autopsy. “They don’t do that, even as feelings built up among the citizenry that there was a cover-up. We are hoping to alleviate that.”

Dr. Baden said that while Mr. Brown was shot at least six times, only three bullets were recovered from his body. But he has not yet seen the X-rays showing where the bullets were found, which would clarify the autopsy results. Nor has he had access to witness and police statements.

Dr. Baden provided a diagram of the entry wounds, and noted that the six shots produced numerous wounds. Some of the bullets entered and exited several times, including one that left at least five different wounds.

“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”

He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.

“We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car,” he said.

Dr. Baden, 80, is a well-known New York-based medical examiner, who is one of only about 400 board-certified forensic pathologists in the nation. He reviewed the autopsies of both President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and has performed more than 20,000 autopsies himself.

He is best known for having hosted the HBO show “Autopsy,” but he rankles when he is called a “celebrity medical examiner,” saying that the vast majority of what he does has nothing to do with celebrities.

Dr. Baden said that because of the tremendous attention to the case, he waived his $10,000 fee.

Prof. Shawn L. Parcells, a pathologist assistant based in Kansas, assisted Dr. Baden.

“You do this for the families,” Mr. Parcells said.

The two medical experts conducted the four-hour examination Sunday at the Austin A. Layne Mortuary in St. Louis. Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for Mr. Brown’s family who paid their travel expenses, hired them.

“The sheer number of bullets and the way they were scattered all over his body showed this police officer had a brazen disregard for the very people he was supposed to protect in that community,” Mr. Crump said. “We want to make sure people understand what this case is about: This case is about a police officer executing a young unarmed man in broad daylight.”

A spokesman for the Ferguson Police Department, Tim Zoll, said the police had not seen a report of the autopsy and therefore had no comment on it.

Dr. Baden said he consulted with the St. Louis County medical examiner before conducting the autopsy.

One of the bullets shattered Mr. Brown’s right eye, traveled through his face, exited his jaw and re-entered his collarbone. The last two shots in the head would have stopped him in his tracks and were likely the last fired.

Mr. Brown, he said, would not have survived the shooting even if he had been taken to a hospital right away. The autopsy indicated that he was otherwise healthy.

Dr. Baden said it was unusual for the federal government to conduct a third autopsy, but dueling examinations often occur when there is so much distrust of the authorities. The county of St. Louis has conducted an autopsy, and the results have not yet been released.

He stressed that his examination was not to determine whether the shooting was justified.

“In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’ ” said Dr. Baden, who retired from the state police in 2011. “Right now there is too little information to forensically reconstruct the shooting.”

No matter what conclusions can be drawn from Dr. Baden’s work, Mr. Brown’s death remains marked by shifting and contradictory accounts more than a week after it occurred. The shooting is under investigation by St. Louis County and by the F.B.I., working with the Justice Department’s civil rights division and the office of Attorney General Holder.

[Fabbs]

^^^ so the eyewitnesses that said he was shot in the back?

St. Louis County police said several protesters had thrown Molotov tails toward the officers before authorities shot tear gas toward them.

St. Louis County police said at least two people had been shot in Ferguson, but not by police.

National Guard is on the way. Good. Dk why they waited this long.

[Chomag]

National guard being called in.
http://news.yahoo.com/missouri-governor-sends-national-guard-ferguson-070038626.html

Well this should get interesting.

[Chomag]

Last time I checked National Guard dosn't use rubber bullets.