Michael Brown shot dead by police

[Proxy]

According to a medical examiner talking on cnn, "shot from a distance" in the autopsy report just means greater than 24" because, for a handgun, under 24" there would be gun powder residue/burns on the body. He also they do not have a way to tell from the body if the shots were fired from 25" or 25 feet.

thanks

from this article: About a half an hour after arriving at the holding cell, they were told that all media members could leave without any charges being filed.

this is a different article about the same guy. quote from this specific article: The two men were eventually released without charges.

i hadn't seen this before, and its interesting. its still not clear what exactly the dispute there was about. regardless, i've never called the reported robbery justification for murder, but it merely fuels some speculation as to what may have caused his confrontation with the police to become violent (if he was worried they were coming for him, etc).

the distance is sort of irrelevant. if he was charging at the police from 20 feet away it still could be perceived as a threat. however, if autopsy reports (i haven't seen them myself yet) actually show that NONE of the bullets entered from his back, it sort of s on all the "eyewitness" accounts we have heard.

its a developing story, and as i've said from the very beginning, i'm waiting for facts to come out. i just know a vast majority of people's reactions and initial perceptions are just fueled by race, which is stupid. people want a conviction/crucification of the cop before knowing any of the facts of what went down... literally just because it was a white-on-black thing. just like the zimmerman case.

was reading that they're trying to figure out if the head shots are indicators that he was surrendering. They said the one exit wound shows a bullet's path from the jaw to collar bone

Again...what the are kids doing out there? The parents know there have already been confrontations with police. I guess making a "statement" is more important than the safety of their own children.

If they were normal parents with normal functioning brains they would have left their kids at home. Actually, they wouldn't be out there in the first place because they are putting themselves at risk and they have kids who depend on them.

yeah kids shouldn't be there. I was more interested in why everything started before curfew and why the cops only gave 5 seconds warning. Like, if that's when the molotovs were thrown, or what.

Did they leave money on the counter to pay for it? Oh, they probably didn't.

I usually go to reuters for my news. They seem as unbiased as anyone. Here's their page on Ferguson.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/US_Live_Blog

[TheSanityAnnex]

Interesting. Only 3 bullet casings found on scene, and it appears only 3 bullets could have caused all the wounds.

[ChumpDumper]

Who wrote all that stuff in red?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Who wrote all that stuff in red?

Another ME from a site I read.

[ChumpDumper]

Another ME from a site I read.

Link?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Link?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/165...on.html&page=1

[ChumpDumper]

So the comments are from "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum?

[RD2191]

So the comments are from "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum?

[Jacob1983]

I'm not an expert on autopsies but that was a ty made autotopsy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So the comments are from "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum?

You do understand people that post on message boards can also be medical examiners correct?

[ChumpDumper]

You do understand people that post on message boards can also be medical examiners correct?

I understand he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I understand he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

Why don't you sign up and ask him what he does for a living. Or better yet why don't you give your expert opinion on the entry exit wounds like he did. I'll provide you the blank autopsy report if you'd like.

[ChumpDumper]

Why don't you sign up and ask him what he does for a living.

No need. He is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

Or better yet why don't you give your expert opinion on the entry exit wounds like he did. I'll provide you the blank autopsy report if you'd like.

Why would that be better for you?

[TheSanityAnnex]

No need. He is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

Would you care to point out any flaws of what he determined from looking at the prelim autopsy report...your expert opinion of course.

Why would that be better for you?

It sounds like you don't think he's qualified to give an informed opinion. That leads me to think you see something wrong with it, so what is your take on it or do you not have one?

[ChumpDumper]

Would you care to point out any flaws of what he determined from looking at the prelim autopsy report...your expert opinion of course.

I merely stated that the opinion is that of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum. I don't know why it angers you. It's your link.

It sounds like you don't think he's qualified to give an informed opinion. That leads me to think you see something wrong with it, so what is your take on it or do you not have one?

Your thinking is faulty. I think he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I merely stated that the opinion is that of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum. I don't know why it angers you. It's your link.
Your thinking is faulty. I think he is "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

Dispute what "tc2k11" posted, in your expert opinion of course.

[ChumpDumper]

Dispute what "tc2k11" posted, in your expert opinion of course.

I merely stated this is the opinion of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

That is beyond dispute.

[Fabbs]

I merely stated this is the opinion of "tc2k11" on the AR15 forum.

That is beyond dispute.

How much further beyond is that?

[ChumpDumper]

How much further beyond is that?

It's metaphorical. There is not a physical distance involved.

Do you understand?

[baseline bum]

LOL rioting for some got who attacked a cop and got what he deserved for it. I mean I don't like cops either since they don't want to do if your house gets robbed, your car stolen, etc, but charging a cop is count to potato re ed.

[Fabbs]

It's metaphorical. There is not a physical distance involved.

Is this your opinion?

[mingus]

Properly by piecing together a few things like the angle of the bullets as they entered, the distance, etc...


Unless another video or other piece of evidence surfaces.

But Dr. Baden said that the angle of the bullet through the head can be interpreted as either Brown rushing at him with his head down OR a situation where he was in surrender position with his head down.

Not sure what distance will tell you about it either.

Im no expert but I think it will be tough.

With conflicting accounts between the eye witnesses themselves it makes it that much more difficult.

Judging by the bullet patterns my assumption is that the cop wasn't trying to kill him initially but immobilize him. He had what 3 shots to his arm and one to his right side chest for the first 4 shots? If he wanted to kill him initially I would think he wouldn't be shooting him there. He'd have aimed for his vital organs.

[silverblk mystix]

But Dr. Baden said that the angle of the bullet through the head can be interpreted as either Brown rushing at him with his head down OR a situation where he was in surrender position with his head down.

Not sure what distance will tell you about it either.

Im no expert but I think it will be tough.

With conflicting accounts between the eye witnesses themselves it makes it that much more difficult.

Judging by the bullet patterns my assumption is that the cop wasn't trying to kill him initially but immobilize him. He had what 3 shots to his arm and one to his right side chest for the first 4 shots? If he wanted to kill him initially I would think he wouldn't be shooting him there. He'd have aimed for his vital organs.

Well, we might never know the truth or what the officer was thinking -\

but if I had to guess -

I would just guess that the officers gun just needs to be adjusted a little as every hit appears to be on the far left side of the body. I would also guess he was aiming for the center.

[Trill Clinton]

a game to keep the white supremacists busy

[SnakeBoy]

We're not looters, we're liberators...what a piece of this guy is.