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Is vaping offensive to non-smokers? Just curious.
Second hand vapor?...... Toronto’s board of health is asking the province to impose an Ontario-wide ban on electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes, wherever smoking is prohibited.“The best thing for the province to do is to tackle this right away and get a legislative framework in place immediately,” said city councillor and board of health chair Joe Mihevc.The board also wants Queen’s Park to prohibit sales of flavoured e-cigarette products, ban e-cigarette displays in retail stores and restrict sales to minors. If the province doesn’t respond by February, the city’s Medical Officer of Health, Dr. David McKeown, is prepared to step in with suggested bylaws that would curb their sales in Toronto.At its meeting Monday, the board voted unanimously to endorse a report prepared by Toronto Public Health and McKeown. He is urging restrictions because of “possible health risks associated with exposure to second-hand vapour.”Board members heard deputations from e-cigarette proponents who argued the battery-operated devices are helping thousands of smokers to kick their “filthy” habit. They suggested any move to limit their use is based on fear — not on actual evidence that they cause harm......
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...rette_ban.html
Is vaping offensive to non-smokers? Just curious.
It's a crock of , second hand vapor is nothing, and definitely not the same as smoke.
While it is true that e-cigs are not healthy because you still get the nicotine, and nicotine builds plaque in your arteries and causes heart disease, the vapor dissipates immediately in the atmosphere.
I didn't think it was. Now I'm not sure.
people that worry about 2nd hand smoke. Do they know how many carcinogens are in every ing product we use daily? The food that we eat? The we drink? Not to mention everything we inhale on a daily basis. Tf outta here.
And you are qualified to dismiss the statement by Toronto's Medical Officer of Health?
No. You are nobody.
Lol your ignorant posts crack me up.
Yeah i get the feeling that everyday air is just as harsh as any vapor would be. Wasnt that the whole ing point of vaping? So smokers can do it inside and give them incentive to quit real cigs?
I do believe there are a lot more serious things to be concerned about such as emissions from automobiles.
Oh, and blake, I am as qualified as anyone of us are to question the validity of the report.
Or do you blindly believe everything anyone with credentials tells you without first taking a look at their findings?
Your monoric posts are revealing of how ignorant you are and how you take everything in the strictest literal sense, yet fail to understand someone's opinion without having to be TOLD that message board statements for the most part are the expressions of opinions, and not facts.
But since you love to play your idiotic games, you said, "you are a nobody".
Link?
The burden of proof lies with you to validate your statement since nothing is an opinion with you.
You blindly called bull .
And no, you are not qualified for anything here.
The vapor still contains nicotine.
You're a ing idiot.
And carbon dioxide <gasp>.
Some, formaldehyde too.
Vapers are more annoying than smokers.
You also said I was a nobody.
Now I need two links for each of your statements.
The burden of proof lies with you to prove it.
Otherwise you are merely lying again, since you are being so literal that you do not allow opinions, and thus exposing yourself as a liar.
Does every thread have to evolve into a flame war between you and Blake?You also said I was a nobody.
Now I need two links for each of your statements.
The burden of proof lies with you to prove it.
Otherwise you are merely lying again, since you are being so literal that you do not allow opinions, and thus exposing yourself as a liar.
Second Hand Vapor
For the user, it’s obvious that vaping is a great alternative to smoking. Many of us now prefer vaping to smoking entirely. We really enjoy all the different flavor options and being able to vape a single hit or two without dedicating 5-10 minutes to go have a cigarette.
Now what about what you exhale when vaping? We already know what’s in the e-juice, but what exactly is coming out of our lungs into the air to potentially bother those around us?
The most recent study was conducted by clearstream working closely with Utah vapers. The study has completed and is now in the process of full doctoral review so the summary is no longer published at that page. The short version is that second hand vapor contains no harmful chemicals and no nicotine. Really the only possible irritants that one can think of are the trace amounts of flavor.
Here is an excerpt of what used to be there:
In December 2011, the Utah Vapers began working closely with FlavourArt from Milan Italy to research the current studies on electronic cigarettes. What we found is a lack of evidence to support the belief we all had in that there was no harm to bystanders in exhaled vapor (second-hand vapor). After months of coordination, Clearstream Air was announced to the world electronic cigarette community on 22 March 2012 – also known as World Vaping Day.
Simply put, the Clearstream Air project is a comparative evaluation between tobacco and electronic cigarettes and hoped to draw a positive conclusion about the lack of harm with electronic cigarette usage. The study focused on the release of airborne contaminants in closed room environment to determine if there are any contaminants and if so, at what levels.
The following substances were measured for in the exhaled smoke and vapor.
Carbon monoxide CO
Nitrogen oxides NOx
Acrolein
Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons PAHs
Volatile Organic Compounds VOC
Total Organic Carbon TOC
Nicotine
Glycerine and propylene glycol (components of the electronic cigarettes fluids)
Study Results
As the study has been completed and a professional doctoral review completed, I’m proud to announce that the results are better than we could have anticipated. In short, there is NO harm found in exhaled vapor from electronic cigarettes. The most exciting results I found is that testing did not detect any nicotine in the exhaled vapor. Now, you may ask why I find this exciting. Well, my excitement is on two levels. 1) This means that the human lung absorbs most if not all of the nicotine which has long been questioned within the global electronic cigarette community; and 2) This also means no nicotine was detected in the ‘second-hand vapor’. All other substances measured for electronic cigarettes were FAR below allowable levels for human inhalation according to the FDA. In fact, the levels were so low that it proves it is more hazardous to your health to breath the air in any major downtown metropolitan city during heightened times of driving.
I invite you to review the study yourself and draw your own conclusions. If you are in the medical or scientific fields, please take the invitation to review the report in detail and let me know if you draw a different conclusion. If you prefer to wait for the full doctoral paper, we anticipate the full peer reviewed release of this paper to occur near the end of July 2012.
http://www.projectvape.com/what-is-v...nd-hand-vapor/
Lol projectvape.
Try again, Dartmouth.
Who else laughs when they see Anti-Tobacco ads on television? Talk about money that could be better spent elsewhere.
every one needs a witchhunt
" Sgt. Brian O’Keefe told Boston.com that there were between 17 and 25 overdoses on the substance Monday night, and believes the bubblegum flavor sold in area stores may be a “bad batch.”
Oh noes. How will I handle you calling me a liar. Again.You also said I was a nobody.
Now I need two links for each of your statements.
The burden of proof lies with you to prove it.
Otherwise you are merely lying again, since you are being so literal that you do not allow opinions, and thus exposing yourself as a liar.
Here are some more studies:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1565760
http://ecigarettereviewed.com/second...apor-dangerous
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...027_story.html
http://ricochet.com/archives/on-the-...ndhand-vaping/
It appears that there is no evidence that e-cig second hand vapor poses any sort of risk at this point of investigations.
This may change in the future as the FDA does more research, but so far there is none that hasn't been debunked so far.
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