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    and then James Harden appeared
    Except when was the last time you saw Harden drop a pass between the legs of a defender while both were on the move. Or dive for a loose ball. Or compliment his teammates rather than dissing them. Harden is left handed and he gets to the line...end of similarities. Not a lot of guys in the NBA that could pass or drive and finish like Manu.

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    to wonder whether Anderson can fill Manu's role well enough for the Spurs' bench to remain elite.
    that word makes a big difference

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    and then James Harden appeared
    They look similar in their approach to the game, but they play VERY different games.

    For one, Manu defends.

    Second, Manu shoots less from 3, and has more of a mid range game.

    Third, Manu plays within the flow of the offense much more.

    Fourth, Manu is less ball dominant

    Fifth, Manu pass quite a bit more

    Sixth, Manu was a much better rebounder in his prime

    Seventh, Harden is much better at going to the line

    Eighth, Harden is less turnover prone

    Ninth, Ginobili is much more clutch

    Again, they look similar in their styles, but their approach and overall impact to the game is very different. Especially the HOU Harden, who is all but a chucker these days.

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    Don't think anyone will ever fully replace Manu tbh. A player of his caliber coming off the bench is practically unheard of.
    James Harden and Bledsoe are somewhere laughing

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    Kyle Anderson is bigger and better. 10/10 thread... Pop runs his whole playbook for Manu, without it he's De Culo

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    No comparing a guy who "fell" to 30 and hasn't proven a damn thing to a future HOF is a bit lame, tbh. Anderson hasn't proven anymore than de culo has, that's for sure and they're both slow-footed dude's who happen to be good passers. Of course I hope Anderson proves to be legit but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
    His coaches, analysts and people that have seen Anderson play have been comparing him to better hall-of-famers than Manu since he was in high school. Discussing the possibilities for him to fill Manu's role on a Spurs message board in the offseason is FAR less lame than comparing him to De Colo.

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    and then James Harden appeared
    He's got the layup, he's got the stepback, he doesn't win, he's not clutch, and he can't defend.

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    I don't follow chinook and O_V logic on dat one tbh

    asking if Anderson can replace Manu is as foolish as asking if he can replace Duncan. We don't even know if dude can be an nba player. I would understand a Can Kyle break the rotation and get significant minutes as a rookie next year ?... but wondering if he can replace Manu ? really ?

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    His coaches, analysts and people that have seen Anderson play have been comparing him to better hall-of-famers than Manu since he was in high school. Discussing the possibilities for him to fill Manu's role on a Spurs message board in the offseason is FAR less lame than comparing him to De Colo.
    and also analysts have been saying dude is too slow to become a rotation player

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    James Harden and Bledsoe are somewhere laughing
    I'd love to see Harden's response if the Rockets asked him to resume his 6th man role. Sure he was willing to do it early in his career, but after his comments this summer, I'd bet there is no way he would do it in his prime. Manu, of course, did it without complaint. And Bledsoe is not any where near Manu in his prime when he was coming off the bench. , Bledsoe can't even get anyone to sign him. If it were Manu in his prime, the Suns would just offer him the max.

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    What does that even mean? I never liked BS or his opinion and now like him less. Manu rules but Wades bad ass too.
    To be clear, the point wasn't Manu is better than Wade. It's that there will be 100 guys who have a game like Wade's before there will be a player with Manu's skill set (flair for passing/finishing in the lane). That's not an insult to Wade, who is a great player, but it's recognition that there just aren't very many players that will pass the ball between the legs of players when they are on the move or do other things so uniquely.

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    I think they mean replace Manu as facilitator off the bench, not a HOF SG.

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    I don't envision him as a 2, more a 3 but filling the same role as Manu just as a 3.
    I think that's LJC's position unless the Spurs strike out on a starting four. Then, they may spend on a really good sixth man and start Diaw.

    that word makes a big difference
    It doesn't.

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    To be clear, the point wasn't Manu is better than Wade. It's that there will be 100 guys who have a game like Wade's before there will be a player with Manu's skill set (flair for passing/finishing in the lane). That's not an insult to Wade, who is a great player, but it's recognition that there just aren't very many players that will pass the ball between the legs of players when they are on the move or do other things so uniquely.
    100 guys who have a game like Wade and manu is one of a kind... we are all Spurs fans but come on now

    First of all Wade is well above average for a SG regarding passing and hitting open team mates, sure he is not as spectacular as Manu but dude is a 6 apg which is higher than Manu even per 36 mn pg.
    Second Wade is / was one of best finisher in the lane so I don't see that point as one of a big difference.

    Then he is a better rebounder than Manu, steal the ball at the same rate and you add 1 blk per game which is quite rare for a guard.

    Using Wade in that kind of argument is a bad idea saying there ae 100 guys who have a game like him is worst

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    I like this kid... I think he can be the Toros' Magic Johnson...

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    100 guys who have a game like Wade and manu is one of a kind... we are all Spurs fans but come on now

    First of all Wade is well above average for a SG regarding passing and hitting open team mates, sure he is not as spectacular as Manu but dude is a 6 apg which is higher than Manu even per 36 mn pg.
    Second Wade is / was one of best finisher in the lane so I don't see that point as one of a big difference.

    Then he is a better rebounder than Manu, steal the ball at the same rate and you add 1 blk per game which is quite rare for a guard.

    Using Wade in that kind of argument is a bad idea saying there ae 100 guys who have a game like him is worst
    Wade is a genetic beast though... back in the day he was Kobe-like physically gifted. I also remember an Spo article saying Wade has oversized hands (like our boy Kawhi).

    Gino really never had those gifts. What he did was mostly out of fearlessness and being a huge compe or, not some above average athleticism. I think that's what Simmons was basically referring to.

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    I thought he was supposed to be the next Boris.


    Why not ask if he's going to replace Tim or Tony? Equally stupid questions.

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    Wade is a genetic beast though... back in the day he was Kobe-like physically gifted. I also remember an Spo article saying Wade has oversized hands (like our boy Kawhi).

    Gino really never had those gifts. What he did was mostly out of fearlessness and being a huge compe or, not some above average athleticism. I think that's what Simmons was basically referring to.

    Yeah, not medically enhanced at all.

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    Yeah, not medically enhanced at all.
    When Wade started he didn't have a foot wide jaw, tbh... and he was already an athletic beast...

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    Wade is a genetic beast though... back in the day he was Kobe-like physically gifted. I also remember an Spo article saying Wade has oversized hands (like our boy Kawhi).

    Gino really never had those gifts. What he did was mostly out of fearlessness and being a huge compe or, not some above average athleticism. I think that's what Simmons was basically referring to.
    I don't disagree with that just saying that it is stupid to say there are 100 guys like Wade when dude is a pretty special specimen


    On the Manu side... if the debate is: Manu is one of a kind in the white, argentinean with average athleticism category, we all agree

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    When Wade started he didn't have a foot wide jaw, tbh... and he was already an athletic beast...

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    When Wade started he didn't have a foot wide jaw, tbh... and he was already an athletic beast...
    Peds changed that.

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    100 guys who have a game like Wade and manu is one of a kind... we are all Spurs fans but come on now

    First of all Wade is well above average for a SG regarding passing and hitting open team mates, sure he is not as spectacular as Manu but dude is a 6 apg which is higher than Manu even per 36 mn pg.
    Second Wade is / was one of best finisher in the lane so I don't see that point as one of a big difference.

    Then he is a better rebounder than Manu, steal the ball at the same rate and you add 1 blk per game which is quite rare for a guard.

    Using Wade in that kind of argument is a bad idea saying there ae 100 guys who have a game like him is worst
    again, I'm not being a homer. Wade was better than Manu in his prime. But most basketball players go through a system that trains them to be D Wade. Ginobili's game is original. He just has a unique style. I'm not saying Manu is better, I'm just saying there are only a handful of guys in NBA history that could make some of the plays that he makes.

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    I don't disagree with that just saying that it is stupid to say there are 100 guys like Wade when dude is a pretty special specimen

    On the Manu side... if the debate is: Manu is one of a kind in the white, argentinean with average athleticism category, we all agree
    I dunno, I think there's quite a bit of genetic lottery winners, just not all of them reach the upper echelon... that's certainly a credit to Wade...

    I mean, a player like Westbrook with Gino's court vision, passing ability and feel for the game would be ing scary, tbh...

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    Will never have the first step to get points as easily as Manu but I do hope that he becomes the next great 6th man.

    The main thing for him is to learn as much as he can from Boris, couldn't dream of a better mentor... He needs the post moves to use just size to it's fullest and not just to pass the ball over people... He needs to figure out the defensive end and become strong enough to guard multiple positions like Boris... I believe he can become a very good player but well see...

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