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does he deserve to be shot dead not committing a crime?
I discussed the conflicting view points with my GF. I've been arrested before so I subconsciously have a negative feeling whenever I see Police, no matter where or the situation. On the other hand my GF has not been arrested so when she sees a Cop in a store she thinks "Great, no one will be stealing" or a Cop out in public "Good, I know I am safe". Maybe it has a bit to do with male vs female i.e. I can protect myself but I think it mostly has to do with our past experiences
Having said that, thinking the USA is still Jim Crow South is gullible. There are so many reasons why a Cop wouldn't kill a citizen: Fired from job, Jail time, Harassment from public and overall self-guilt.
does he deserve to be shot dead not committing a crime?
to make out their murderous cop to be a victim of murdered n!gg@ violence, another cop could have hit him, aka, fake evidence to frame the victim.
I had my orbital bone broken and sinus damage in an accident and you couldn't see anything out of the ordinary the first few hours.
Deserve? Perhaps not. But a person of his ilk getting shot is not surprising. And the race of the cop who shot him is completely irrelevant.
Well, I could be wrong. And it was a poor quality cell phone video from a distance.
I assume Wilson is lying, since he has the most to gain, exoneration of murder, in lying. Brown's friend has another story about Wilson open his door hard into the street walkers.
Get real, Boo.
If we are gonna wildly speculate maybe Johnson's friend shot him and framed the cop.
I was gonna post that yesterday but decided not to.
The same friend who lied about Brown being shot in the back? Yeah he's credible.
Regardless of what happened, this was handled terribly... it's clear the Police didn't have the confidence of the citizens they're supposed to serve before this happened, and this incident only accentuated it.
Going forward, I don't know how you deal with this other than revamping the entire Police force there.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...th-mike-brown/
dozens of eyewitnesses confirm Wilson's story.
^ If true, I still don't know if the use of deadly force would be appropriate (only a fist fight). But damn, that's a tough one ...
If he went for his gun that is all that is needed to justify, legally speaking.
What doesn't make sense to me is if he was going for his gun, then you would think the shots would be from close range. But according to the few autopsy reports out there, none of the shots were from close range.
Even if he ran away afterwards, I can't think shooting to kill was justified. Obviously, just speculation...
Regardless of whether Brown went for the gun or not, if he physically assaulted Wilson, I think that changes the narrative.
Two shots to the head though? I could understand if it's from a fearful civilian, that's not trained to deal with an escalating situation like that, etc. AFAIK, cops are primarily trained to shoot to stop, not to kill.
My current reaction is to be skeptical with the amount of force used. Perhaps new details will change that.
If you cold-clock a cop to the point of fracturing his face, I think you should anticipate some pretty severe consequences. I see your point though, and that's why I think it's a debate.
My impression has been that the marches/protests are caught up with the Saint Brown narrative. If he broke a cop's face, it's hard for me to see why so many people should be up in arms. And that's coming from a guy who ing hates the police.
You seem to forget, Brown was apparently:
1) aggressive
2) not very smart
3) stoned
The officer and witnesses statements that after the officer pulled his gun and ordered them to stop Brown taunted the cop that he "wouldn't shoot him" and then Brown allegedly bum rushed the cop.
Thats what they are saying.
Naturally Trill will say that poor innocent boy was calmly standing there with his hands up begging the officer not to shoot and the cop just unloaded his clip on him because...it's Trill being Trill.
I seriously doubt the cop was stopping to check bullet impact locations as the 300# guy was rushing towards him...
Stopping the threat often times means killing it.
Why do you say that? CC's statement was completely plausible.
Yes, cops are authorized to use deadly force when shooting. They don't try to wing guys. Not saying it's right. It's just the way it is.
I mean, if I'm in a banana republic like Argentina, sure, I expect to get two bullets to the head and thrown in the middle of the ocean... In America, I expect more professionalism... obviously, again, this is all speculation. If the kid motioned like he was going to pull a gun or something like that, I can see the officer falling for it. That's why details matter.
IMO, the protests are fueled up because the initial reaction from the Police was absolutely stupid. Showing up with army gear, aiming at protesters, taking forever to even release a statement. Then they release that video that, in reality, has nothing to do with the kid's death/murder. There was clear distrust before the incident, and this whole thing just tipped the scale.
I'm with you as far as cops... I grew up in a country chock full of dirty cops. Even after moving to America, just can't shake the disgust...
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