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It's awesome if you're vaporizing marijuana extract. It's odorless, and super potent in that form.
I went from 1-2 packs of Marlboro reds a day to straight vape @2.4 mg of Nic. The transition went well but the damage was already done. I have zero desire for a smoke now....double bypass will do that. My cardiologist is not a fan of vaping because of the nicotine. That stuff still hardens arteries.
It's awesome if you're vaporizing marijuana extract. It's odorless, and super potent in that form.
Lol vaping is for s.
Why do you assume they want to look cool? Nicotine is a stimulant, like caffiene is a stimulant. Do people drink coffee or Red Bull or Coke because they want to "look cool"?
People like stimulants (eg. Caffiene, Nicotine, Chat (found in parts of North Africa)). Most of the time (not all stimulants) if you can keep your intake of it under control (aka you're not addicted to it) and the catalyst isn't tobacco or some other agent that is going to produce harmful effects it's not too much of an issue.
That said I don't recommend vaping or really any other stimulant to people because if they're like me they'll keep wanting more and more of it. Better to just stay away from nic altogether if that's your personality type.
It's easy.
They dont smoke it to keep their smoking habit in check, they do it because its the hollywood thing now. It just looks very pretentious.
I don't think that's the case. I think you're reading too much into people's behavior and want to find a particular fault in people's behavior that isn't there. Plenty of people I know who vape do at home when no one is watching. Which leads me to believe they take enjoyment in vaping in and of itself and couldn't care less about wanting to "look cool" to anyone. Whatever, this is a dumb debate. Assume what you want to assume.
Bull (for me anyway), I've been vaping for a about six months now and I have never vaped in public. My goal in the beginning was to quit smoking cigs and eventually quitting nicotine altogether. Haven't gotten there yet, but it's still my goal. The weed aspect interests me tbh
dabs. holy , dabs.
Which is why I said most people (young, trendy and impressionable) are the ones picking these up to act cool.
I also said this was something made for legit people who do want to quit the habit. I've nothing against those who do for that purpose. I only take issue with the one dumbass sitting at a bar vaping with a "look at me I'm a badass" smug.
Or maybe he just likes vaping? The is your deal?
You haven't seen the bags I've seem doing it. When you spot one, you'll understand.
And when/if I do I won't make sweeping generalizations about other people who do it. This is just basic common sense.
Instead of stubbornly continuing your dumb argument you can just admit to the fact that your reasoning was based on a sweeping generalization and therefore idiotic. It's not that big of a deal really.
You seem rather butthurt.
This is a gay gimmick. Nuff said.
No matter how many times you bash vaping it doesn't change the fact that your reasoning behind it sucks .
Get a clue. And get a girl so that you can care less about some d-bag at the bar and more about tapping some ass.
Ok, will do deadshot.
INSIGHT-Is nicotine all bad?
LONDON | By Kate Kelland, Health and Science Correspondent
May 19 Since he ditched Marlboro Lights five years ago, Daniel's fix is fruit-flavoured nicotine gum that comes in neat, pop-out strips. He gets through 12 to 15 pieces a day and says he has "packets of the stuff" stashed all over. But he doesn't see himself as a nicotine addict.
Like many people, Daniel believes nicotine gum is far less harmful for him than smoking. Doctors worldwide agree. By giving up cigarettes, they say, Daniel has removed at least 90 percent of the health risks of his habit.
Even so, the possibility that people can be addicted to nicotine, but not die from it, is at the heart of a growing debate in the scientific community. Scientists don't doubt nicotine is addictive, but some wonder if a daily dose could be as benign as the caffeine many of us get from a morning coffee.
It's a debate that has been aggravated by the rising popularity of electronic cigarettes - tobacco-free gadgets people use to inhale nicotine-laced vapour, which have helped some people quit smoking. The idea of nicotine as relatively benign goes against the negative image of the drug that built up over the decades when smoking rose to become an undisputed health threat.
Psychologists and tobacco-addiction specialists, including some in world-leading laboratories in Britain, think it's now time to distinguish clearly between nicotine and smoking. The evidence shows smoking is the killer, not nicotine, they say.
"We need to de-demonise nicotine," said Ann McNeill, a professor of tobacco addiction and the Ins ute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience at King's College London, who has spent her career researching ways to help people quit smoking.
She wants people to understand the risks are nuanced - that potential harms lie on a curve with smoking at one end, and nicotine at the other. People who don't see that may hesitate to seek help stopping smoking, or try to restrain their intake of nicotine replacement therapy (NRT). That can make it harder to quit.
Some studies show nicotine, like caffeine, can even have positive effects. It's a stimulant, which raises the heart rate and increases the speed of sensory information processing, easing tension and sharpening the mind.
All this raises other questions: Could nicotine prime the brains of young people to seek harder stuff? Or, in an ageing society, could its stimulant properties benefit people whose brains are slowing, warding off cognitive decline into Alzheimer's and delaying the progression of Parkinson's disease?
So far the answers aren't clear. And the divide is as political and emotional as it is scientific.
RELATIVE HARMS
McNeill says her work is, in part, to honour the legacy of her former mentor at King's, British psychiatrist Mike Russell. About 40 years ago, Russell was one of the first scientists to suggest that people "smoke for the nicotine, but die from the tar" - an idea that helped lay the ground for the NRT business of gums, patches, vaporizers and now e-cigarettes.
Some scientists note Russell's insight has been misused by the tobacco industry. For decades, companies' false promises of "light" cigarettes helped lure more smokers, says Mike Daube, professor of health policy at Curtin University in Australia. "We have seen more than six decades of tobacco industry distraction products, promotions and deceptions," he says. "They revelled in advertising that implied both reduced risks and even health benefits."
Smoking kills half of all those who do it - plus 600,000 people a year who don't, via second-hand smoke - making it the world's biggest preventable killer, with a predicted death toll of a billion by the end of the century, according to the World Health Organization.
Few doubt that nicotine is addictive. How quickly it hooks people is closely linked to the speed at which it is delivered to the brain, says McNeill. The patch is very slow; gum is slightly quicker. But there is no evidence as yet that significant numbers of people are addicted to either. Daniel, who works long hours in London's financial district, says he chews less on weekends when he's relaxing, doing sport and hanging out with his kids.
One reason smoking is so addictive is that it's a highly efficient nicotine delivery system, McNeill says. "Smoking a tobacco cigarette is one of the best ways of getting nicotine to the brain - it's faster even than intravenous injection." Also, tobacco companies used various chemicals to make the nicotine in cigarettes even more potent.
Pure nicotine can be lethal in sufficient quan ies. There is some evidence it may lead to changes in adolescent brain development, especially to the part responsible for intelligence, language and memory.
Stanton Glantz, a professor of tobacco at the University of California, San Francisco, says the younger kids are when they start using nicotine, the more heavily addicted they get. "This is likely because their brains are still developing," he said.
Countering that, others say studies have focused on animals and that in any case, nicotine should not be available to under-18s. Michael Siegel, a tobacco control expert and professor at Boston University, says that in the few studies so far, such effects have been seen only in smokers, not smoke-free nicotine users.
Elsewhere, studies have looked at nicotine's potential to prevent Alzheimer's disease, and to delay the onset of Parkinson's.
A study in the journal Brain and Cognition in 2000 found that "nicotinic stimulation may have promise for improving both cognitive and motor aspects of Parkinson's disease." Another, in Behavioral Brain Research, suggested "there is considerable potential for therapeutic applications in the near future." Other work has looked at the stimulant's potential for easing symptoms of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
In Sweden, many people get their nicotine from sucking smoke-free tobacco called "snus." Research there has put rates of lung cancer, heart disease and other smoking-related illness among the lowest in Europe.
"FUNCTIONAL ADDICTION"
Even so, the idea of "safe nicotine" has not caught on.
Marcus Munafo, a biological psychologist at Britain's Bristol University, says public health campaigns of the 1970s and 1980s bound nicotine, addiction and cigarettes tightly together to hammer home smoking's harms. Those associations may blur the potential for cleaner nicotine to lure smokers away from cigarettes.
Munafo is questioning the notion that a nicotine addiction is, in itself, bad. At a "smoking laboratory" in Munafo's department, people who are still hooked on cigarettes smoke under controlled conditions. At the moment, researchers are studying genetic differences in how deeply people inhale, as part of a project analysing people's needs and responses to nicotine.
"Should we really be that bothered about addiction in and of itself, if it doesn't come with any other substantial harms?" said Munafo. "It's at least a discussion we need to have."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0Y93PK20150519
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