Disgusting and sickening

[xmas1997]

There are several posts and pages before that.

They prove you are still begging for a truce and hadn't turned on me.

Is it just your ego that makes you refuse your ego made you turn on me?

Ah, but you are wrong about that.

I never begged for any truce.

I tried to reason with you.

You need to look up the definitions of both words.

It is further proof that you are still confused and have the timeline all screwed up.

Senility creeping up on you or early onset of alzheimers?

[ChumpDumper]

Ah, but you are wrong about that.

I never begged for any truce.

I tried to reason with you.

You need to look up the definitions of both words.

It is further proof that you are still confused and have the timeline all screwed up.

Senility creeping up on you or early onset of alzheimers?

Great, whatever you want to call it -- you still hadn't turned on me.

Until I told you how arrogant you were being.

Your ego couldn't handle it just like it couldn't handle it every time you subsequently shut down and/or melted down.

[ChumpDumper]

Just provide the link to the post where you say you turned on me.

Or refuse, make excuses and whine about me.

[xmas1997]

Great, whatever -- you still hadn't turned on me.

Until I told you how arrogant you were being.

Your ego couldn't handle it just like it couldn't handle it every time you subsequently shut down and/or melted down.

You have more terms confused.

I never "turned" on you per se, I got fed up with your bull and told you so, and this was way before the arrogance bull .

If you were really honest, you would admit it, but just because you don't and wish it weren't, that still does not change the facts that it was.

The truth is still the truth no matter how many lies you weave to try to disguise or confuse the issue.

You tell so many lies that it is no wonder they are coming back to haunt you and trip you up.

Get used to it, that is the life of a liar.

[ChumpDumper]

I got fed up with your bull and told you so, and this was way before the arrogance bull .

Post a link to it.

Prove it.

[xmas1997]

Post a link to it.

Prove it.

I have your "link" hanging.

And I don't need one to know the truth.

It wouldn't matter anyway because you would either lie some more about it, or not pay attention to it like you did with the Christian dogma post I made to educate you with.

So I no longer cater to you wants.

I do as I please when it comes to you, you have proven over and over you don't deserve any respect whatsoever.

Instead, I just keep laughing AT you as you weave your lies and try to convince others.

Your credibility is only good with your fellow trolls.

So I continue to laugh AT you.

[ChumpDumper]

I have your "link" hanging.

And I don't need one to know the truth.

It wouldn't matter anyway because you would either lie some more about it, or not pay attention to it like you did with the Christian dogma post I made to educate you with.

So I no longer cater to you wants.

I do as I please when it comes to you, you have proven over and over you don't deserve any respect whatsoever.

Instead, I just keep laughing AT you as you weave your lies and try to convince others.

Your credibility is only good with your fellow trolls.

So I continue to laugh AT you.

Refusal, shut down, excuses, ad hominem. Like always.

You're as scared as you were of the two simple questions earlier.

You can't laugh at me; you're too afraid.

[xmas1997]

Refusal, shut down, excuses, ad hominem. Like always.

You're as scared as you were of the two simple questions earlier.

You can't laugh at me; you're too afraid.

It is what it is.

Too bad for you.

You don't remember the timeline because you were too busy melting down from SBM and SA210 killing you with photoshopping your picture in your photoshop thread to listen to any reason from me.

Which is another reason you confuse begging with reasoning, you mistook reasoning for begging because you were already so pissed off by them.

I gave up on you and cussed you out at the time for being so blockheaded.

You remember, but you'll lie to get out of admitting the truth.

I don't mind, and truth be known, I don't really care anymore like I did back then.

Now I laugh AT you and at your pathetic lie weaving, you are so predictable.

[SupremeGuy]

Bro, I am not qualified to answer that question nor do I care to. If one day I feel I need to study the theory of evolution/biology then I will.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

[spurraider21]

Bro, I am not qualified to answer that question nor do I care to. If one day I feel I need to study the theory of evolution/biology then I will.

until that point it doesn't make sense to try to criticize it. it would be the equivalent of somebody who has never read the bible to be criticizing christian beliefs by misrepresenting the tales. like "lol noah built a space ship"

[ChumpDumper]

It is what it is.

Too bad for you.

You don't remember the timeline because you were too busy melting down from SBM and SA210 killing you with photoshopping your picture in your photoshop thread to listen to any reason from me.

Which is another reason you confuse begging with reasoning, you mistook reasoning for begging because you were already so pissed off by them.

I gave up on you and cussed you out at the time for being so blockheaded.

You remember, but you'll lie to get out of admitting the truth.

I don't mind, and truth be known, I don't really care anymore like I did back then.

Now I laugh AT you and at your pathetic lie weaving, you are so predictable.

lol no link.

Proves you are lying.

[xmas1997]

Because some on here are totally confused about a certain point on here concerning "dogma", I won't mention any names but his initial starts with a "c", I am posting a difference between "dogma" and what he thinks is dogma but is actually "doctrine" especially his faux pas (intellectual blunder) concerning Rob's statement that "c" attributes mistakenly to a J. W. "dogma", here it is:

DOGMA/DOCTRINE


Although in many contexts “dogma” and “doctrine” are used interchangeably, in technical theological contexts “dogma” has a narrower meaning: a doctrine which has been given official status by a religious body. Especially in the Catholic Church dogmas are required beliefs whereas many other less firmly established beliefs are only doctrines.


Nonspecialists writing about religion often ignore the distinction, and call a doctrine which has not received such official status a “dogma.” Since only some doctrines are dogmas but all dogmas are doctrines and since “dogma” often has negative connotations, it’s safer in non-technical religious contexts to stick with “doctrine.”

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/dogma.html

The rest of his questions, links, and what-have-you, are trivial nonsense which he wants to spin into truths, yet FAILS to bring weight to and are no less than lies at best.

This is the gospel truth of the matter and the last it should be brought up because the truth is all there in the threads to back me up, and is a waste of time to go and find it!

If you choose not to believe me even though it is there, then fine, no skin off my back, but I won't stoop to his petty childish immature games because that is all they are.

I will laugh a lot at his foolishness and his defcon 1 melt down however.

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[Blake]

Wrong thread

Get over it, imo

[Blake]

The outline of the story is now, sadly, a familiar one. Instructor wants to discuss intelligent design (ID). Intolerant atheists throw a fit. College quickly capitulates to the demands of the atheists. Instructor is censored.
The scenario played out again this past semester in Amarillo, Texas. I'll give the iden ies of the parties involved in just a moment, but for now, let's note some twists unique to the situation. According to internal communications, campus administrators feared that disgruntled atheists would stage a "disruption" if the ID class went forward. The atheist leader got so "intense" in arguing for Darwinian evolution over intelligent design that college staff called the police on him, apparently potentially concerned over their own safety. And get this: the intolerant atheists call themselves the "Freethought Oasis." You can't make this stuff up.

This really disgusts and sickens you?

[ChumpDumper]

Because some on here are totally confused about a certain point on here concerning "dogma", I won't mention any names but his initial starts with a "c", I am posting a difference between "dogma" and what he thinks is dogma but is actually "doctrine" especially his faux pas (intellectual blunder) concerning Rob's statement that "c" attributes mistakenly to a J. W. "dogma", here it is:

DOGMA/DOCTRINE


Although in many contexts “dogma” and “doctrine” are used interchangeably, in technical theological contexts “dogma” has a narrower meaning: a doctrine which has been given official status by a religious body. Especially in the Catholic Church dogmas are required beliefs whereas many other less firmly established beliefs are only doctrines.


Nonspecialists writing about religion often ignore the distinction, and call a doctrine which has not received such official status a “dogma.” Since only some doctrines are dogmas but all dogmas are doctrines and since “dogma” often has negative connotations, it’s safer in non-technical religious contexts to stick with “doctrine.”

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/dogma.html

The rest of his questions, links, and what-have-you, are trivial nonsense which he wants to spin into truths, yet FAILS to bring weight to and are no less than lies at best.

This is the gospel truth of the matter and the last it should be brought up because the truth is all there in the threads to back me up, and is a waste of time to go and find it!

If you choose not to believe me even though it is there, then fine, no skin off my back, but I won't stoop to his petty childish immature games because that is all they are.

I will laugh a lot at his foolishness and his defcon 1 melt down however.

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dog·ma noun \ˈdȯg-mə, ˈdäg-\
: a belief or set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted

: a belief or set of beliefs that is taught by a religious organization
plural dog·mas also dog·ma·ta

lol

[xmas1997]

dog·ma noun \ˈdȯg-mə, ˈdäg-\
: a belief or set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted

: a belief or set of beliefs that is taught by a religious organization
plural dog·mas also dog·ma·ta

lol

The mistake you continue to make is that the other than the "commonly shared Christian dogmas that I posted expressly for your elucidation, the JWs have no other dogmas.

What they however have are doctrines!

And "within" those doctrines, are the commonly shared Christian dogmas that I listed for you!

Do you "get it" now?

Do you understand the difference?

I doubt you do.

It may be just too hard for you to comprehend.

It takes intelligence, something you clearly lack in spades.

[xmas1997]

First off chump's dictionary definition applies to all religions, not just Christianity.
That needs to be cleared up in light of his misrepresentation and faux pas.

But it is still a good starting place.

There are many "denominations" within the umbrella term of Christianity, the largest of which are: Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Protestantism.
Within Protestantism are: Lutherans, Protestants, Methodists, Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Baptists, etc.
Within Baptists are: Disciples of Christ, Churches of Christ, Evangelical Christian Chrs. and others.
And there are what I call the "fringe" Christian denominations such as: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Pentecostals, and Holy Rollers, and nondenominational, etc.

All of these denominations have their own particular sets of dogma and/or more likely "doctrines containing dogma", and for the most part do not agree with each other except on a few select sets of "commonly shared dogma".

Commonly shared Christian dogma
1. belief in God the Father, the Son of God Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
2. God is eternal, always existed, holy, sinless, and does not lie.
3. the Incarnation - the Son of God became flesh.
4. Baptism - forgiveness of original sin.
5. the Resurrection - the Son of God died for the sins of mankind and came back to life so that we might receive eternal life with the Father.
6. the Ascension - the resurrected Jesus Christ was taken up to heaven in His resurrected body.
7. the Transfiguration -where Jesus Christ is "shown physically" to be the Son of God.

Everything else, including the Bible is hotly contested and thus does not fall under the Common Christian dogma umbrella.
You later quoted something about one of the Ten Commandments, but even those are not all agreed on by all the denominations because Biblical interpretaions vary so widely from sect to sect within Christianity..

For example: Protestants believe as dogma "sola scriptura" - that the Bible is necessary for their salvation and holiness. Whereas the Anglicans and Methodists believe as dogma "prima scriptura" - where the Bible is "illumined" by tradition, reason, and experience.
Some sects believe in total strict literalism such as many of the Baptists and some of the "fringe" sects mentioned above like the Jehovah Witnesses and Pentecostals, etc., while the Mormons, SDAs, etc. while accepting as dogma the seven mentioned above, also have another "book" they believe as dogma along with the bible.

So when you consider all this and attempt to get a "Christian worldview" you must consider more than just one denominations dogmas, because it is inclusive in that it is the framework of ideas, dogmas, creeds, and beliefs that Christians interpret and interact with the world.

Whereas the "Biblical worldview" is much the same with one major difference, it views life through the "lens" of God's Word, the Bible, and that it is inspired, inerrant, and infallible.
Not all the denominations subscribe to this Biblical worldview in the same way or degree.

So Christian dogma is widely varied, hotly contested, interpreted in many different ways, and very little is commonly agreed upon, yet the seven that are agreed on are considered true principals that do not change.

[it's me]

I agree, false religion is terrible and disgusting.

xmas is catholic... so would you agree he practices a false religion?

[xmas1997]

xmas is catholic... so would you agree he practices a false religion?

Not quite specific enough for me.

More appropriately I am a "cafeteria" Catholic, and still a Christian.

[it's me]

disgusting and sickening

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Faith is dangerous....Inquisition, Holocaust, Peoples temple Jonestown massacre, Catholic sect of the ten commandments in Uganda, The branch at Waco TX, Heaven’s Gate, 9-11, etc etc. Fortunately, religion is tending to decline as humans get access to information and education worldwide.

[it's me]

Not quite specific enough for me.

More appropriately I am a "cafeteria" Catholic, and still a Christian.

Sorry.... I was asking rob, let the guy answer by himself.

[xmas1997]

Sorry.... I was asking rob, let the guy answer by himself.

But you were asking him a question about me, so naturally I would reply to clear up any misconceptions you, or him, or anyone else might have.

[xmas1997]

Just because the subject of evolution was involved does not mean that it is what the thread is about, nor is the article that I posted about evolution. It is about freedom of speech and the right to study/discuss/believe what a person chooses. If you want to keep being ignorant then go right ahead.

Rob, I feel honor bound to apologize to you for my part in derailing the topic of your thread.

Freedom of speech and the right to study/discuss/believe what a person chooses is being challenged in court thankfully, and should be.

I would not be surprised to see this reach all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court before all is said in done.

[RD2191]

Rob, I feel honor bound to apologize to you for my part in derailing the topic of your thread.

Freedom of speech and the right to study/discuss/believe what a person chooses is being challenged in court thankfully, and should be.

I would not be surprised to see this reach all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court before all is said in done.

No hard feelings. I don't know why posters decided to make this thread about me and my beliefs when it simply has to do with freedom of speech/academic freedom.

And I completely agree. I just think it is very dangerous for one person to tell another what they can and can't discuss. Especially when they claim science has no bias and is only looking for the truth. From my understanding ID has nothing to with God.

[RD2191]

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

How so? Why would I study something I do not believe in and a subject that I do not care about? Do you usually read things that you have no interest in?