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dark chocolate with sea salt and a nice pinot noir
Wine and chocolate are great combinationYes these are great opinions to consider----I was up waaay late researching some of the stuff you guys talked about in that fantastic Anderson thread. What about beer/cheese combos? And chocolate/wine pairings? I can't drink wine anymore but sometimes I get a mad craving for some strong chocolate, like I've had at wine pairing parties, and wish I had paid more attention to it. I would risk a sip or 2 of wine for a nibble of chocolate
Key point here is the quality of the chocolate, you need a pure chocolate at least 50%, from 70% chocolate is more used on desert but some people like eating it too.
For me best pairing is red wine, a strong one preferably like Cahors to use a French reference or if you go South America a Carmenere (some wine from Chile are great). All in all I like a wine with a touch of e with chocolate
dark chocolate with sea salt and a nice pinot noir
This knows.
Of the local U.S. reds I really like Merlot, or Pinot Noir. The Red Zinfandels are a little too bitter for my taste, while if you like a sweet pink wine then you can't ever go wrong with Beringers White Zinfandel from California.
And I love chardonnay, a dry white wine, and one I particularly like is Lindemans Bin 65 from Australia.
A great red wine from France only sold during the Holiday Season is "beaujolais nouveau" of almost any brand name, but it has to be drunk within about three months of buying otherwise it is only good for salad dressing as it will turn to vinegar.
The great thing about wine and cheese is that with each sip of wine, it wipes the palette clean of your last taste of cheese so that each new bite of cheese tastes like the first one all over again, the palette never gets dull.
By the way, do not discount how good Texas wines are, they recently won most wine categories in the latest wine contests nationwide.
Difficult topic but let me talk about the greateast in France.
From Bordeaux you have the famous wine of the 1855 selection. You cannot wrong here, these are the top of the top.
The 5 1er crus (First Growths):
Chateau Lafite from Pauillac
Chateau Latour also a Pauillac
Chateau Margaux from Margaux
Chateau Haut Brion from Pessac it's what we call a grave
Then Chateau Mouton, the famous Mouton Rotshild again a Pauillac
On that you can add the king of French wine
Chateau Yquem from Sauternes (drink a glass of Yquem and die)... one of the most expensive wine in the world
Then you have Bourgogne, they have some of the finest wine in the world:
Romanee Conti
Clos de Vougeot
Corton
and in white you have the great Puligny Montrachet, Chablis, Corton Charlemagne
I have tried Clos de Vougeot, excellent wine.
Do you get any of the beaujolais nouveaus when they are sold here seasonally?
I also like a lot some clean chardonnay for aperitive. Great combination between dryness but with a taste of fruit.
It is extremely difficult to find some reasonably good Beaujolais... Beaujolais is all about marketing and sales. Typically you use so so grapes that you cannot work a lot with and you create indeed a young wine very straight very raw. Perfect to have a good headache
Damn grats for the Clos de Vougeot ! very pricy wine but worth every cent you spend on it.
As I explained in my previous post, I usually try to stay away from Beaujolais
Yes, if you drink too much, for sure. I always share mine and usually with the holiday meals, one or two glasses at the most. It makes a great inexpensive gift to take with you too when you are invited to someone else's house for dinner and you don't want to show up empty handed. By the way, they have been getting better and better each year.I also like a lot some clean chardonnay for aperitive. Great combination between dryness but with a taste of fruit.
It is extremely difficult to find some reasonably good Beaujolais... Beaujolais is all about marketing and sales. Typically you use so so grapes that you cannot work a lot with and you create indeed a young wine very straight very raw. Perfect to have a good headache
Now if I had Pop's budget, it would be a different story.
Because I'm living in South America for so long I learned to appreciate a lot Chileneans and Argentinean wines. They have some good stuff.
My favorite house is Rutiny especiall in Malbec.... divine
I confess I'm not that good in American wines, I know California has made tremendous progress over the years. I have been surprised by the quality of some of the ones I tasted like Corison Kronos, Dalla Valle or Quintessa... They have nothing to envy to some great French castles.
Pop is crazy about wine... Parker described some of his bottles in one of his show and it's trully impressive... I remember him having for instance a Chateau Yquem 1964 grand millesime, that's a 2 K USD bottle.Yes, if you drink too much, for sure. I always share mine and usually with the holiday meals, one or two glasses at the most. It makes a great inexpensive gift to take with you too when you are invited to someone else's house for dinner and you don't want to show up empty handed. By the way, they have been getting better and better each year.
Now if I had Pop's budget, it would be a different story.
That's Pop who taught Parker a French appreciating wine
Dude you owe it yourself to try not only the Napa Valley wines which have been kicking Frances butt for years, but also the up and coming Texas wines which have been lately kicking Californias butt.
I don't know much about Argentinean wines but from Chili have you tried VIÑA VIK at Millahue?
I've noticed more and more men drinking Moscato. You do know it's like drinking a sugary drink right?
Your are right, but I like the taste....my wife loves it and maybe that's why I got to drink it a lotI've noticed more and more men drinking Moscato. You do know it's like drinking a sugary drink right?
I do agree on Californian wines kicking butt but untill we can see a californian wine of 40 y/o with his quality being intact and improved, gap with "great" french like Haut Brion is still important. Take a Yquem 1847 that's one of the most procured bottle in the world and those who tasted it evaluate his quality as off the chart. We are not there yet with California.
Texas has all climatic condition to produce some great wine so I'm not surprised to hear they are growing.
I will try the Chilean you mentioned
Your are right, but I like the taste....my wife loves it and maybe that's why I got to drink it a lot
Great knowledge--I think, though, I'll start small first before trying the good good. I also have to be careful as the sulfates in wine sometimes trigger my migraines. But I've always wanted to get on par with some of the wine drinkers at my work and my lady's friends who all seem to have the knowledge. Thumbs up, Brazzy.
Never tried it, I think it might be a bit too sweet for me.
I have tried some great sweet German wines though that just barely hint of sweetness, tartness, and fruitiness such as a good Auslese being barely sweet, and Spatlese being dryer, whereas a Riesling is sweetly rounded and very fruity IMHO.
To me they are more "dessert" wines the sweeter they get.
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No need indeed to start by the wines I described. If you have some pals who like that that's awesome way to get started.
A fun stuff to do is a blind taste, everybody picks a bottle around a theme like pinot or chardonnay. You blind taste them just on the "I like it from 1 to 5" and establish a ranking then you compare with price or reputation... you will be surprised. It's a good way to share experience on a tasting.
We do that with craft beer--didn't give it much thought to doing it with wine. However, I think that'll be what my friends, girlfriend, and I do from now on. Thanks for the recommendation.
Germans white are great tbh
Try the "vendage ive" = late harvest... heaven tbh
you know your about wines props tbh
you will enjoy it
it's fun also with whysky, you pick a region or a country (Ireland, Scotland) a type (Bourbon etc...) and you do the same blind tasting from 1 to 5
My last stint in college just before graduating I managed a Dons & Bens liquor store for extra money and wines were my specialty.Germans white are great tbh
Try the "vendage ive" = late harvest... heaven tbh
you know your about wines props tbh
I even sold a few bottles to former Spur Dennis Rodman when he played here when he came in a few times and he lived over in Castle Hills with his ex-girlfriend, the one he had before Madonna.
He was super tall and extremely "shy" which was a far cry from his on court/screen persona.
Yes. Eerily similiar to Muenster cheese.
We did that with single malt scotches, but it got too expensive real quick.
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