So where are the militias/anti-government/open carry gun advocates in Missouri?

[vy65]

Funny that TSA and Vy think the afterburner guy video is some sort of sophisticated intellectual response.

Where'd I say it was a sophisticated intellectual response.

I have no opinion on the stats and am open to being persuaded. The lack of discussion of that point (the stats) is telling.

[pgardn]

Poor people are more likely to be involved in violent crimes...

I'm shocked.

Sean Hannity is a complete and utter idiot. When he gets pulled over he lets the officer know he has a gun...
So Brown is supposed to do what to show he is unarmed? WTF is the idiot known as Hannity trying to prove?
Seriously, i put my hands on the car, I show my gun in my waist belt... WTF? How many times has he been pulled over? What does Hannitys run ins with the law have anything to do with any of this... Dumbass.

Settle down and look at this specific case. Both sides are using this to discuss issues that are becoming much more difficult to tie in with this specific case.

[Th'Pusher]

Where'd I say it was a sophisticated intellectual response.

I have no opinion on the stats and am open to being persuaded. The lack of discussion of that point (the stats) is telling.

Well you called bd a ing pussy because he wouldn't watch the video of the known right wing dbag as if the low brow analysis deserved a response. The afterburner dude's inability to address the stats at any more than a cursory level is what's telling.

[Th'Pusher]

The guy is a ing hack as ElNono so aptly pointed out.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I watched the video. Waste of 6 mins... cliff notes: niglets are killing white folks more often, why does evil media focuses only on this case?

The impartiality pretense comes early and is "if the cop really shot him when he had his hands up, he should go to jail".

Well, duh. That's exactly what we don't know anything about yet: what really happened. Which is really all that matters in this particular case, and ultimately answers all the questions, whichever those might be.

Also interesting the paid bot had nothing to say about the militarization of the police, another very specific subject this case brought up front and center. Guess that would've made it a 12 min video, and the ty background flame animation didn't last that long.

C'est la vie.

I was more interested in looking at the statistics he brought up concerning white on black violence vs black on white violence. Strange you mention nothing of it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No it doesn't. It's a simple analysis to prove black people are more violent than white people (both to other blacks as well as whites) with absolutely no interest in identifying, evaluating or otherwise addressing why this is. It's fodder to play on the emotions of and rouse rabble like you.

Btw- Yonni posted videos of this dude extensively...

Well no it doesn't. I just wanted Trill to watch it and give his take on the matter. Thank you though for agreeing with his premise.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The guy is a ing hack as ElNono so aptly pointed out.

I'm waiting for you to prove this " ing hack's" statistics wrong.

[vy65]

Well you called bd a ing pussy because he wouldn't watch the video of the known right wing dbag as if the low brow analysis deserved a response. The afterburner dude's inability to address the stats at any more than a cursory level is what's telling.

I called him a coward for refusing to listen to contrary evidence and have a substantive conversation about the stats -- exactly what you're doing now. If the numbers are wrong, say so. Rehashing what's already been posted in this thread ain't cutting it.

[ElNono]

I was more interested in looking at the statistics he brought up concerning white on black violence vs black on white violence. Strange you mention nothing of it.

cliff notes: niglets are killing white folks more often, why does evil media focuses only on this case?

^^ I did bring it up. Not surprising at all that's what you're largely interested in though.

I have no problem at all with the stats. It adds absolutely nothing to this case, but, ok.

I mean, we can talk just about anything by starting with some vague reference to this case... "it was a sunny day in Ferguson when niglet was killed, but global warming is a much more serious issue" (flaming background).

[ElNono]

BTW, I'm not Trill, tbh...

[spurraider21]

That's exactly what we don't know anything about yet: what really happened. Which is really all that matters in this particular case, and ultimately answers all the questions, whichever those might be.

right, and you have people on both sides trying to crucify the other person. you have the boutons/trill group who want Wilson burned at the stake, and vice versa

[spurraider21]

It adds absolutely nothing to this case

it adds nothing to the case as far as the criminal/investigative standpoint but i think it bears relevance when it comes to media coverage of such stories

[ElNono]

right, and you have people on both sides trying to crucify the other person. you have the boutons/trill group who want Wilson burned at the stake, and vice versa

Of course. Controversy sells. For every boutons/trill there's a TSA/yoni. Those ends are unlikely ever to agree anyways, but the biggest contributor to the BS is the actual lack of legit info.

it adds nothing to the case as far as the criminal/investigative standpoint but i think it bears relevance when it comes to media coverage of such stories

It's relevant to a lot of topics: media milking this for $$$, well-connected/funded political 'think tanks' (red and blue here, both sides do it) using this to drive certain narrative, gullible audiences, the social media herd, etc.
The problem is that it's easy to get stuck looking at the numbers and the blame-game that follows, without actually having a serious discussion.
The topic of black crime would include, among other things, analysis of why that happens. Does socioeconomic factors impact those numbers? Is it a cultural issue? An education problem? Is it a justice/law enforcement problem?

It's just much easier to blame the bubbas and the s and move on to the next topic du jour.

[Th'Pusher]

I called him a coward for refusing to listen to contrary evidence and have a substantive conversation about the stats -- exactly what you're doing now. If the numbers are wrong, say so. Rehashing what's already been posted in this thread ain't cutting it.

The numbers aren't wrong, which is why he uses them whith out discussing the underlying causes. To race bait and rouse the right wing rabble.

And as EN points out, the stats are irrelevant to the case...

[Trill Clinton]

It reminded me of Trill making a fool of himself over cuckingfunt

what the is your old ass talking about? you must have a crush on her cuz you keep bringing her up for some reason.

[Trill Clinton]

right, and you have people on both sides trying to crucify the other person. you have the boutons/trill group who want Wilson burned at the stake, and vice versa

why did you mention me and boutons and not tsa/cc/vy and yourself?

[boutons_deux]

You Lie

I don't want Wilson burned, I want an outside special prosecutor, not the local compromised, pro-cop, pro-white asshole, to find out why a cop shot an unarmed man.

The cops, Fox, Repugs, spurstalkers sliming the unarmed man, (he's black of course he's slime) is totally irrelevant to the killing.

[Trill Clinton]

You Lie

I don't want Wilson burned, I want an outside special prosecutor, not the local compromised, pro-cop, pro-white asshole, to find out why a cop shot an unarmed man.

The cops, Fox, Repugs, spurstalkers sliming the unarmed man, (he's black of course he's slime) is totally irrelevant to the killing.

basically.

in ferguson, an american's cons utional right to due process died and drained out on the street. thats the bottom line. some don't care about that and some of us do.

[spurraider21]

why did you mention me and boutons and not tsa/cc/vy and yourself?

When I said vice versa I was referring to that group. I don't consider my self part of that.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I have no problem at all with the stats.

Thank you for your honesty.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The numbers aren't wrong

Thank you for your honesty.

[ChumpDumper]

Wait. Are black cops killing white folk more than white cops are killing black folk?

What is tsa's point?

[spurraider21]

Wait. Are black cops killing white folk more than white cops are killing black folk?

What is tsa's point?

how many black cops are there in relation to white cops? is it proportional to the general population?

[vy65]

I don't think there are any "sides" regarding the Wilson-Brown altercation. Either the cop gunned down and murdered an innocent surrendering citizen or an idiot assaulted a cop and got what he deserved. As Nono pointed out, we don't have the facts to answer the question of which scenario actually happened. Once we do, I don't think any reasonable person would still cling to the disproven narrative.

As for the larger, racial issues, why does one have to be on a side? I don't think the way the police handled this is right, and I fear a militarized police force as much as anyone. However, that does not mean that I or anyone have to be on the pro-Brown side. Just because the police act disproportionately and brutally doesn't mean I support Brown, his ilk. Both sides are wrong and it's a false choice to put it in either/or terms.

[ElNono]

I don't think there are any "sides" regarding the Wilson-Brown altercation. Either the cop gunned down and murdered an innocent surrendering citizen or an idiot assaulted a cop and got what he deserved. As Nono pointed out, we don't have the facts to answer the question of which scenario actually happened. Once we do, I don't think any reasonable person would still cling to the disproven narrative.

As for the larger, racial issues, why does one have to be on a side? I don't think the way the police handled this is right, and I fear a militarized police force as much as anyone. However, that does not mean that I or anyone have to be on the pro-Brown side. Just because the police act disproportionately and brutally doesn't mean I support Brown, his ilk. Both sides are wrong and it's a false choice to put it in either/or terms.

Exactly. That said, some peeps are seemingly eager to buy into the ankle bite(s)... sad they can't think for themselves, tbh