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    Baynes being moderately injured is about the worst-case scenario for the Spurs. He'd probably take the QO, which is good if the Spurs want him to do so. But it's a terrible thing if they wanted to leverage him to another team.

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    Looks like he injured himself...
    What happened?

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    Baynes being moderately injured is about the worst-case scenario for the Spurs. He'd probably take the QO, which is good if the Spurs want him to do so. But it's a terrible thing if they wanted to leverage him to another team.
    Spurs don't have leverage. Teams haven't even stepped up to make Baynes a qualifying offer yet. Best case scenario, he's worth a 2nd round draft pick. Better to keep around a veteran 3rd string back up than to draft and stash a 2nd rounder.

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    Spurs don't have leverage. Teams haven't even stepped up to make Baynes a qualifying offer yet. Best case scenario, he's worth a 2nd round draft pick. Better to keep around a veteran 3rd string back up than to draft and stash a 2nd rounder.
    Not really. There's also the fact that the team could generate a TE or get a player they like of Daye's caliber. Anyway, the Spurs would be trading him to get a roster spot. Getting a better 15th man than Baynes is actually a great reason to move him.

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    Who knew my Baynes was into the sistas?



    Hope he's not actually injured.

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    Who knew my Baynes was into the sistas?

    Looks like patty in drag, tbh.

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    Not really. There's also the fact that the team could generate a TE or get a player they like of Daye's caliber. Anyway, the Spurs would be trading him to get a roster spot. Getting a better 15th man than Baynes is actually a great reason to move him.
    Baynes is the 15th man by default but is clearly not the worst player on the team. He doesn't seem to be generating much interest around the league as most GM's realize that Bayne's value to the Spurs is much greater than it would be to any other team in the league. For that reason, teams are reluctant to make a bid. It's not like the Spurs don't have options though. The Spurs could open up roster spots by releasing Daye or Ayres. There are better options out there but have you ever known the Spurs to go against the grain and sign a better player over a player who knows the system and played fairly decent while on the court?

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    Baynes is the 15th man by default but is clearly not the worst player on the team. He doesn't seem to be generating much interest around the league as most GM's realize that Bayne's value to the Spurs is much greater than it would be to any other team in the league. For that reason, teams are reluctant to make a bid. It's not like the Spurs don't have options though. The Spurs could open up roster spots by releasing Daye or Ayres. There are better options out there but have you ever known the Spurs to go against the grain and sign a better player over a player who knows the system and played fairly decent while on the court?
    Yep. They signed Beli just last year. Sure, people act like Neal sucked, but he was every bit as effective as Baynes, and he was a rotation player. They signed Diaw and benched Blair, even though the Spurs were very successful with DeJuan starting.

    But that's getting away from the point. The Spurs are clearly looking to upgrade that spot, which is why they haven't stepped in and secured Baynes. So if they move him, they will sign someone better.

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    Yep. They signed Beli just last year. Sure, people act like Neal sucked, but he was every bit as effective as Baynes, and he was a rotation player. They signed Diaw and benched Blair, even though the Spurs were very successful with DeJuan starting.

    But that's getting away from the point. The Spurs are clearly looking to upgrade that spot, which is why they haven't stepped in and secured Baynes. So if they move him, they will sign someone better.
    Spurs had to pick a lane between Mills and Neal. It would have been redundant to keep both. The Spurs players, most notably Duncan and Parker, rallied behind Mills, the more versatile of the two and was more cost efficient. Side note on Neal, a product of the system, he sucked because he played through plantar fasciitis. His numbers improved dramatically late in the season. Anyways, it's hard to say Beli was better than Neal without the benefit of hindsight. IIRC, Marco only had offers from Cleveland and San Antonio. Even Durant's public outcry for Beli in OKC couldn't get Presti to flinch. His career numbers were pretty disastrous. Diaw's situation was different. He was waived by Charlotte mid season. I'm not sure he'd be here otherwise.

    However, upgrading the 15th roster spot on the is probably not a priority unless it involves the words "release" and "Daye" or "Ayres". In spot minutes, I'd rather have Baynes out there than some foreign reclamation project or some D-league NBA wannabe. Unless the Spurs sign someone like Andray Blatche, I'm not sure there's any other noteworthy free agents left on the market worth taking a flier on. You've already made it clear that you weren't to keen on any players from the Spurs summer league roster. Nonetheless, the Spurs had opportunities early in free agency to pull off a sign and trade involving Baynes or if they were truly -bent on upgrading the position, they could have opted against the QO which would have allowed him to become an unrestricted FA. Why now? Why wait for the free agent market to dry up? A little late in the game for upgrades.

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    Spurs had to pick a lane between Mills and Neal. It would have been redundant to keep both. The Spurs players, most notably Duncan and Parker, rallied behind Mills, the more versatile of the two and was more cost efficient. Side note on Neal, a product of the system, he sucked because he played through plantar fasciitis. His numbers improved dramatically late in the season. Anyways, it's hard to say Beli was better than Neal without the benefit of hindsight. IIRC, Marco only had offers from Cleveland and San Antonio. Even Durant's public outcry for Beli in OKC couldn't get Presti to flinch. His career numbers were pretty disastrous. Diaw's situation was different. He was waived by Charlotte mid season. I'm not sure he'd be here otherwise.

    However, upgrading the 15th roster spot on the is probably not a priority unless it involves the words "release" and "Daye" or "Ayres". In spot minutes, I'd rather have Baynes out there than some foreign reclamation project or some D-league NBA wannabe. Unless the Spurs sign someone like Andray Blatche, I'm not sure there's any other noteworthy free agents left on the market worth taking a flier on. You've already made it clear that you weren't to keen on any players from the Spurs summer league roster. Nonetheless, the Spurs had opportunities early in free agency to pull off a sign and trade involving Baynes or if they were truly -bent on upgrading the position, they could have opted against the QO which would have allowed him to become an unrestricted FA. Why now? Why wait for the free agent market to dry up? A little late in the game for upgrades.
    The Spurs seem okay with the idea of keeping Baynes. I don't know if that's because they are happy with their roster or if they are prepared to waive Ayres and/or Daye to create space. Right now, Aron is pretty much just a generic center. He's redundant with three other centers on the roster. He may not be worse than Ayres, but Aron is a free agent and Jeff isn't. So it doesn't make sense for the Spurs to pay Ayres to go away when they can just not pay Baynes. Neither guy is going to move the needle for the team. Anyway, the fact that Beli is not noticeably better than Neal is irrelevant. The Spurs thought they were upgrading. The same is true for Ayres over Blair.

    I don't think the Spurs' FO has many other priorities this off-season besides their 15th spot. The top 12 players are set, barring an unlikely trade of Beli. Two of the remaining five have guaranteed contracts inked, so they are not likely to go anywhere. So that leaves Pop and Buford with the decision of keeping Baynes or looking for another player. I don't think they feel a strong enough need to upgrade that they'd spend 2015 cap space for a 15th player. But they reportedly have tried, and continue to try to secure the services of players whom they deem to be quality vets like Gasol and Ayon.

    We'll know by the beginning of October whether Baynes will be on the Spurs next season. He'll have to sign his QO by then if he doesn't have another offer.

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    Went for an open dunk, injured himself on landing.

    Didn't look like a sprain, possibly just a cramp.
    Last edited by velik_m; 08-31-2014 at 01:33 AM.

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    Who knew my Baynes was into the sistas?
    I guess he couldn't just like her and it not be about race. No, the fact that he's dating one automatically means he's into them.

    Yet if he were dating some blonde, I suspect you wouldn't automatically presume he was into blondes.

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    I guess he couldn't just like her and it not be about race. No, the fact that he's dating one automatically means he's into them.

    Yet if he were dating some blonde, I suspect you wouldn't automatically presume he was into blondes.
    Of course I'd presume he's into blondes if he's dating one.

    Anyway, you're barking up the wrong tree, kid. My comment was positive. Yes we live in a post-Dirk world but it's still neat and a bit of a surprise to see a nice mixed family, imo.

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    He wasn't injured.

    13 & 10 against in a blowout win over South Korea last night. He was really active so probably nothing to worry about.

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    Ayres is an upgrade over Blair in the sense that had the Spurs kept Blair, Pop would've put him on the floor, with his usual shortcomings. Ayres by comparison barely saw playing time, a good thing. Tiago and Boris and Tim with few here and there appearances by Ayres, Baynes, Bonner rounded out the big man line up. Wish we could keep Baynes, but he is odd guy out contract-wise. I don't think Daye will bring much, wouldn't miss him. Would rather have Bonner on the floor than Daye. Gustavo Ayon seems like an upgrade over Ayres.

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    Of course I'd presume he's into blondes if he's dating one.

    Anyway, you're barking up the wrong tree, kid. My comment was positive. Yes we live in a post-Dirk world but it's still neat and a bit of a surprise to see a nice mixed family, imo.
    To me, that's foolish.

    I wasn't trying to offend you or inferring you meant anything negative, I was just pointing out how that line of thinking is flawed.

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    To me, that's foolish.

    I wasn't trying to offend you or inferring you meant anything negative, I was just pointing out how that line of thinking is flawed.
    But it's not flawed. By "into" them, I simply meant "open to dating them". Not everybody is "down with the swirl", to use an old colloquial.

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    He wasn't injured.
    Thank god.

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    I hate to wish injury on any player, that is just low class, but if he is, then it bodes well for him re-signing with the Spurs for the QO IMHO.

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    But it's not flawed. By "into" them, I simply meant "open to dating them". Not everybody is "down with the swirl", to use an old colloquial.
    It is. Being "into" them is not the same as "open to dating them". The point is, the only thing conclusion that should be drawn from that picture is that he's not a racist, at least when it comes to "blacks".

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    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...rseas-options/

    Spurs should just pay the guy the extra 1mil. You aren't going to get a player as good as Baynes for that price anyways at this point. Spurs still have the BAE so they should just use it to sign him. He was valuable against Lopez and Adams in the Spurs run this past season.
    You can always find a 13-15 roster position guy for a mil.

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    It is. Being "into" them is not the same as "open to dating them". The point is, the only thing conclusion that should be drawn from that picture is that he's not a racist, at least when it comes to "blacks".
    I thought Baynes got married in the off-season? I thought I read that somewhere or heard it mentioned somewhere.

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    The picture was actually hashtagged #MrsBaynes.

    And TD21 not dating outside of one's race doesn't necessarily make one racist.

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    racism (for an individual, as opposed to systematic) is the belief that certain races are inferior or superior to other races.

    it has nothing to do with dating preferences

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    I thought Baynes got married in the off-season? I thought I read that somewhere or heard it mentioned somewhere.
    That doesn't change a thing I said.

    The picture was actually hashtagged #MrsBaynes.

    And TD21 not dating outside of one's race doesn't necessarily make one racist.
    Not having done so doesn't, but not being open to the idea or refusing to does.

    racism (for an individual, as opposed to systematic) is the belief that certain races are inferior or superior to other races.

    it has nothing to do with dating preferences
    Perfect example of lack of reading comprehension.

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