Pretty obvious Seattle won't repeat with the new emphasis on penalizing defensive holding/illegal contact. Not only is it hard to repeat, but that feat must be damn near impossible without an elite QB. Just going off memory alone, I can think of only Rex Grossman who's done as little during a playoff run for a SB-playing team as RW has in the last 10 years. Even 2005 Ben--who had no hand in the outcome of the SB, much like Wilson--beasted the 3 postseason games prior to that iirc.
My gut tells me Rodgers or Brees rep the NFC this year
I'm surprised Denver has a bigger market than Seattle tbh. The whole of Oregon, Idaho & Washington watch the hawks.
BTW Seattle is an amazing city to visit in the summer (heck which city in America isn't), but seriously the Pacific Northwest is really good. For some reason, the people of Washington are too busy either hiking, fishing or working.
I guess a fan of Buffalo and Flacco would know when a QB is not elite. The progress Wilson has made and the potential of being a better QB is there. No matter your hating on the Seahawks. It's ok--that D is still intact for the most part and will do its part. However, the preseason showed markedly how good he can get once he gets the reading of his progressions down. No one worth anything would ever compare him to Grossman that's just a fallacy and totally wrong.
Didn't compare him to Grossman, just said his playoff run was the least impactful since Grossman, for a SB QB.
That's a fact, don't get defensive.
Most impactful? Statistically, this guy:
I would say Peyton's SB run in 2006 was low impact outside of the AFC le game.
Yeah it was pretty bad...especially the Baltimore game. Still, he had 4 total TDs that postseason (not good) and a SBMVP, which beats what RW had
It doesn't even matter. It's the same people who were saying we wouldn't win the SB. We see the progression is Russ, and the O-Line is back healthy. Not to mention actually having Harvin healthy will open things up. The schedule isn't doing us any favors but whatever. We just have to get out to a good start and we should be fine.
if the QB gets you down the field and the RB punches it in from the 1, looking at merely the TD producer there can be pretty misleading when talking about impact
Indeed. It's a ring that matters. If he keeps up what he did in the preseason and progresses, then he'll be fine.
OK, so if you wanna give RW that td, then we'll go ahead and give Manning the Addai TD in the AFCCG...now we're back where we started.
derp
i was never comparing Wilson to Manning, you're the one holding him to that standard
What was the point of your post, then?--since I'm not holding him to a standard either. Just merely stating facts:
2013: Manning had more of an impact during their SB run--and had a bigger impact for the Seahwaks in the SB than Russ did
2012: Both Flacco and Kaep were integral to teams' success, Flacoo best statistical playoff run in NFL HISTORY
2011: Brady and Eli...lol, stats blow his away.
2010: Rodgers and Ben, again not even close.
2009: Brees and Manning, " " "
2008: Warner and Ben, " " "
2007: Eli and Brady, " " "
2006: Manning and Grossman...close
My point prevails
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it, while we're here let's keep the list going:
2005: Ben and Hasselbeck (Ben had an awful SB, but was great first 3 games)
2004: Brady and McNabb, better
2003: Brady and Delhomme, better
2002: Gannon and Johnson, better--yes, even BRAD JOHNSON
2001: Brady and Warner. Brady was largely a non-factor in this postseason, but led a GW SB drive and got the MVP.
2000: Dilfer and Collins. Weak as --both had bigger impacts than RW though
you mentioning dilfer as more impactful already tells me your mind is set in stone on the issue
i should have learned from last year that discussing Wilson with you is fruitless
Passing Rushing Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD 1 1997 17 1997-12-28 25-290 TAM DET W 20-10 * 13 26 50.00% 181 1 1 69.6 6.96 6.00 2 0 0.00 0 2 1997 18 1998-01-04 25-297 TAM @ GNB L 7-21 * 11 36 30.56% 200 0 2 27.5 5.56 3.06 0 0 0 Passing Rushing Rk Year G# Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD 3 2000 17 2000-12-31 28-293 BAL DEN W 21-3 * 9 14 64.29% 130 1 0 118.2 9.29 10.71 1 2 2.00 0 4 2000 18 2001-01-07 28-300 BAL @ TEN W 24-10 * 5 16 31.25% 117 0 0 58.6 7.31 7.31 4 1 0.25 0 5 2000 19 2001-01-14 28-307 BAL @ OAK W 16-3 * 9 18 50.00% 190 1 1 83.1 10.56 9.17 7 4 0.57 0 6 2000 20 2001-01-28 28-321 BAL N NYG W 34-7 * 12 25 48.00% 153 1 0 80.9 6.12 6.92 1 0 0.00 0 6 Games 5-1-0 59 135 43.70% 971 4 4 66.0 7.19 6.45 15 7 0.47 0
Yeah, when you called his performance in the SB great, you instantly doubled down on your take then proceeded to get statistically raped. You were scrambling so badly to award him points that you were harping on a woefully overthrown ball that led to a PI, disregarded Lynchs TD, and disregard Harvin's big plays.
Dilfer: 4 touchdowns, all while the games were in the balance
Russ: 3 tds, with only 1 in the compe ive balance.
What's great is I know how your mind works too, so you were going down each year and profootballreferencing each one till you came upon an entry that was close .You can try and lie about this, but your reputation of answering each post anywhere on the board in <1-2min is well-do ented, yet you left this one alone for awhile to do research.
Just own it, he had one of the least impactful playoff runs of our lifetime. The #'s don't lie(trill shout)
Funny, considering we are the same way and you predict us to flop.
All this is is your prediction. History doesn't matter and Russell may not have been statistically Peyton Manning, but he made some big throws in the playoffs which is what they need. Plus he's known to make comebacks and NOT choke.Yeah, when you called his performance in the SB great, you instantly doubled down on your take then proceeded to get statistically raped. You were scrambling so badly to award him points that you were harping on a woefully overthrown ball that led to a PI, disregarded Lynchs TD, and disregard Harvin's big plays.
Dilfer: 4 touchdowns, all while the games were in the balance
Russ: 3 tds, with only 1 in the compe ive balance.
What's great is I know how your mind works too, so you were going down each year and profootballreferencing each one till you came upon an entry that was close .
Just own it, he had one of the least impactful playoff runs of our lifetime. The #'s don't lie
huh? None of this is prediction, it's recent history you ...and the rest of your post has nothing to do with the conversation. go play in traffic, I'll call you when dinners ready.
Your GM patched together a completely different secondary in the offseason, yet you call your defense "intact"
How about you call me when the Bills when 5 games in a year, you chimp-faced bas .
Everything you spit - is your prediction.
Russell didn't have to do it all.
Maybe if Peyton was in Wilson's position he wouldn't choke on a big sack of nuts every time the bright lights show up.
Our secondary was made of a bunch of rookies and unsigned players. Do you think it gets worse than that? Our front 7 is the best in the NFL.Your GM patched together a completely different secondary in the offseason, yet you call your defense "intact"
They won 6 last year, including this one:
Too easy.
I know that must be a big accomplishment/year for you.
Now your secondary is made up of a bunch of ty players like Cason and DeCoud
i didn't have to go down the list. dilfer caught my eye for obvious reasons.Yeah, when you called his performance in the SB great, you instantly doubled down on your take then proceeded to get statistically raped. You were scrambling so badly to award him points that you were harping on a woefully overthrown ball that led to a PI, disregarded Lynchs TD, and disregard Harvin's big plays.
Dilfer: 4 touchdowns, all while the games were in the balance
Russ: 3 tds, with only 1 in the compe ive balance.
What's great is I know how your mind works too, so you were going down each year and profootballreferencing each one till you came upon an entry that was close .
Just own it, he had one of the least impactful playoff runs of our lifetime. The #'s don't lie
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