LOL bull .
Blame who you want but Iraq is now a failed state that will never recover and we're jumping right back into it. We are also going to assist the Syrian rebels in taking down their own secular leader that crushed all those Islamic gots. Why? because it might help Obama hold on to the Senate in November. And the next president can figure out how to get out of the mess.
this mother er went from a nobel peace prize winner who extended an olive branch to Russia, China and all Islam
to a guy who resembles a genetic experiment involving genes from John McCain, W Bush Jr, Cheney, Karl Rove and Bibi netanyahu
talk about out of the frying pan into the fire
GWB signed the withdrawal agreement, Obama didn't
Iraq, ISIL, the destabilized M/E, north africa are 100% on your Repugs' oilmen, not on Obama
Iraq was already a failed state when W, , and Rumsfeld let it fall into a civil war after we were greeted as liberators.
blah, blah, blah...just don't try to blame Reagan for it.
Boots. We are out of Iraq and soon Afghanistan. You don't think there was any domestic resistance to having Americans killed there? Obama has now perfected the art of sterile war. He is the drone man, he is the Walrus.
This is not a dem v. rep. thing. The great decision to fight ISIS will cost very few American lives if any. Technology has removed Americans from real war. We will read of convoys hit and get to see grainy black and white explosions.
Up to 1500 troops in Iraq now. More to come. They'll probably have to wear tennis shoes so Obama can keep saying no boots on the ground.
My bad everyone, this isn't going to be a war just an expanded manmade crisis operation.
Im holding to the above snakes alive.
snakeboy only knows dem v rep. it's his MO. He has no capacity to think rationally when it comes to Obama in particular.
the sound of -slapped SN as he fires blanks
thanks for the cliff notes... been working too much I guess, didn't even know he spoke
"domestic resistance" link to this "resistance"?
VN "resistance": 100Ks in the streets, repeatedly, all across the country, universities shut down with students and faculty on strike , etc, etc.
Even head Cheney resisted fighting in VN because he "had better things to do" thanks to 5 educational deferments. And dubya went AWOL just to "resist" National Guard service.
manmade by your adored men dubya and head
So you don't think the public was sick and tired of our kids dying in Iraq?
You detected no dissent?
Really?
CIA raises estimate of Islamic State fighters
A CIA spokesman says Thursday that a new intelligent assessment estimates the Islamic State group "can muster between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters across Iraq and Syria.''
The estimate is based on a review of intelligence reports and is up from a previous figure of 10,000, CIA spokesman Ryan Trapani says.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...d+Top+Stories)
Damn you resisted going off on a Reagan rant. Good job! You must be taking your meds.
sure plenty of people, esp the intelligent ones, were against the Iraq war. Obama distinguished himself by voting against it.
But Iraq anti-war demonstrations weren't even in the universities, and certainly not among adults, many of whom were in the streets 45 years ago against the VN war.
Honest question, do you consider O's strategy in any way shape or form comparable to W's? In your mind, Are these the same thing? I'm just trying to understand what I'm dealing with intellectually.
Everything he says is like a maze of carefully chosen words that allow him to take credit if it works and pass the blame if it doesnt work. I expect that from most politicians, but dammit youre the CIC. Have a damn backbone.
Last edited by UZER; 09-12-2014 at 08:56 AM.
They aren't remotely the same strategies.
W's strategy in Iraq was to take out a dictator and establish a peaceful democracy and ally against terrorism "in the heart of the middle east". Which we now know was a really stupid idea.
O's strategy is to enter into a long term military campaign in Iraq and Syria with no end game in hopes of retaining a few senate seats. Time will tell if this is a stupid idea but I'm guessing that it is...just a guess though.
Last edited by SnakeBoy; 09-11-2014 at 11:07 PM. Reason: typo
if you run his speech through Isaac Asimov's bull filter this is what you end up with:
they bad guys, they gone kill us, they want to kill your family and your children. we need to burn all the money we can on weapons and bombs so we can protect your women and children. if we do not go and kill these people we never met or will ever see, your children will die a horrible death.
Yes we might happen to go bomb foreign lands including Syria and Iraq. Yes, we might kill off civilians and destroy the governments in those countries. Yes we might end up doing more harm than good, but let me be clear, we are doing all this just to protect your women and children.
ughaa ughaa ughaa
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