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    Yeah wait I wasn't aware of stories changing. Links?

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    (CNN) -- Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer.

    They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed.

    And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire.

    An exclusive video captures their reactions during the moments just after the shooting.

    "He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video.

    The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.

    "The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

    That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

    The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.

    The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

    Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

    The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

    The men said they didn't see how the confrontation started.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/fer...ses/index.html
    Meh. He dead now

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    It's got to be tough for detectives to sort through all the bull stories that are made up.
    They don't have to prove the case right now. That's what the eventual trial is for. Not difficult to find cases where people have been indicted with much less information.

    Just wondering what's taking the prosecution and grand jury so long...

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    crofl

    Please make a list of all the stories you believe are made up.
    My name is Derrick
    you sure?
    I mean my name is Dorian
    what happened in the liquor store?
    Nothing happened in the liquor store
    you sure?
    he may have stole something
    there is video you sure?
    ok he committed assault and robbery
    After that?
    Mike didnt do nuffin
    you sure?
    i mean there was an altercation in his car
    and?
    He was shot in the back running away
    there are no shots in his back
    i meant he was shot surrendering on his knees execution style
    you sure?
    okay he was charging the cop

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    My name is Derrick
    you sure?
    I mean my name is Dorian
    what happened in the liquor store?
    Nothing happened in the liquor store
    you sure?
    he may have stole something
    there is video you sure?
    ok he committed assault and robbery
    After that?
    Mike didnt do nuffin
    you sure?
    i mean there was an altercation in his car
    and?
    He was shot in the back running away
    there are no shots in his back
    i meant he was shot surrendering on his knees execution style
    you sure?
    okay he was charging the cop
    No link, I see.

    So the one guy?

    What about the two in the OP?

    How did their stories change from what they were saying immediately after the shooting?

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    No link, I see.

    So the one guy?

    What about the two in the OP?

    How did their stories change from what they were saying immediately after the shooting?
    The one guy crofl. He's the star ing witness. Piaget Crenshaw changed her story as well. So did the two other witnesses. All four said he was shot in the back running away. Explain to me how all four got that wrong. Google Anthony Shahid. Now look through pictures of the crime scene. Notice anything?

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    You didn't answer my question.

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    You didn't answer my question.
    I already did. Post #22. Never said they made a story up just find it odd he was 50 feet away and only heard two shots.

    And sorry for not providing the link. Ive been trying to get it from FuzzyLumpkins but he said he doesn't feel like it.
    That does not justify shooting him execution style like the 4 eye witness reports attest to.
    why have you not provided the link?
    Because I don't feel like it
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...238371&page=46

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    They don't have to prove the case right now. That's what the eventual trial is for. Not difficult to find cases where people have been indicted with much less information.

    Just wondering what's taking the prosecution and grand jury so long...
    Because Brown's witnesses have been lying? I'm guessing they found the guy who's audio was caught on video describing what happened and said Brown charged Wilson. Prosecutors realize they have no case and are waiting for Ferguson to settle down before announcing Wilson was justified in shooting.

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    Every account I have read agrees with the following:

    Brown was fresh off stealing some smokes from the corner store and walking home. He is walking down the middle of the street with his buddy when the cop passes them. He reverses course and cuts in front of Brown and his friend facing them. There is a scuffle through the open window and a shot fired. The door is opened and Brown tries to run away. Some more shots are fired. Brown turns around and yet more shots are fired.

    In the case of these construction worker's account it talks about how Brown had run into their view with the cop chasing before he was shot. That gives you a sense of the distances involved. Brown died 20 yards or so away from the cop car the scuffle took place in.

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    I already did. Post #22. Never said they made a story up just find it odd he was 50 feet away and only heard two shots.

    And sorry for not providing the link. Ive been trying to get it from FuzzyLumpkins but he said he doesn't feel like it.



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...238371&page=46
    The thing is you said it was su ious.

    Why?

    What would be the agenda of two contractors from out of town?

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    The thing is you said it was su ious.

    Why?

    What would be the agenda of two contractors from out of town?
    10K interview fee.

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    10K interview fee.
    Do you have the link to the fee amount?

    Are you saying they planned this all out by making up a story on the spot then weeks later offered up the story they made up for $10,000?

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    three of the witnesses agree. Wilson is ed (I hope).

    And Wilson LIED about his injuries. FPD is gonna get ed, too.
    How do you know he lied about his injuries?


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    Do you have the link to the fee amount?

    Are you saying they planned this all out by making up a story on the spot then weeks later offered up the story they made up for $10,000?
    RumpHumper born yesterday.
    I was going to post this in the same post, knowing your lame predictability.

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    You didn't answer my question.
    I did, and you refuse to acknowledge how the witness stories changed as more evidence came out. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

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    RumpHumper born yesterday.
    I was going to post this in the same post, knowing your lame predictability.
    So you're saying you just made it up.

    OK.

    That was also predictable.

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    I did, and you refuse to acknowledge how the witness stories changed as more evidence came out. Why is that so hard for you to admit?
    Which story did both of these two contractors mentioned in the OP change?

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    The thing is you said it was su ious.

    Why?

    What would be the agenda of two contractors from out of town?
    Quite a big difference between 2 shots and 6+ shots. Now let's get back to the witnesses changing stories as it is clear you you refuse to acknowledge that and are trying to steer this conversation away from that.

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    So you're saying you just made it up.

    OK.

    That was also predictable.
    RumpHumper
    Thinks sleazeball media never makes deals and / or announce every deal made.

    Link me to where the Three Weeks Later Contractors never received a deal.
    Oh, you can't.

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    Which story did both of these two contractors mentioned in the OP change?
    Never said they changed any story. Still refusing to discuss the witnesses that did change their story I see.

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    Keep saying the same unsubstantiated is not going to make it suddenly come true. All the accounts agree on everything from my narrative.

    This disagreement is around whether or not Brown came back and/or put his hands up when he turned around and got brained.

    People have been uncertain about what or how many shots hit and TSA is trying to hand wave as if said uncertainty makes it such that people are intentionally trying to mislead.

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    Every account I have read agrees with the following:

    Brown was fresh off stealing some smokes from the corner store and walking home. He is walking down the middle of the street with his buddy when the cop passes them. He reverses course and cuts in front of Brown and his friend facing them. There is a scuffle through the open window and a shot fired. The door is opened and Brown tries to run away. Some more shots are fired. Brown turns around and yet more shots are fired.

    In the case of these construction worker's account it talks about how Brown had run into their view with the cop chasing before he was shot. That gives you a sense of the distances involved. Brown died 20 yards or so away from the cop car the scuffle took place in.
    You forgot to mention Brown committed robbery and assaulted a store clerk. You also forgot to mention the account you were talking about earlier where the four witnesses said Brown was killed execution style with his hands up. By the way where was the link to that, Chumpdumper asked for it to be provided.

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    Keep saying the same unsubstantiated is not going to make it suddenly come true. All the accounts agree on everything from my narrative.

    This disagreement is around whether or not Brown came back and/or put his hands up when he turned around and got brained.

    People have been uncertain about what or how many shots hit and TSA is trying to hand wave as if said uncertainty makes it such that people are intentionally trying to mislead.
    The only unbiased account, and by that I mean not a coached interview before talking to police, is the audio of the guy who didn't know he was being recorded, and he says Brown charged the officer.


    Are you saying 2 shots and 6+ shots are just minutiae?

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    Quite a big difference between 2 shots and 6+ shots. Now let's get back to the witnesses changing stories as it is clear you you refuse to acknowledge that and are trying to steer this conversation away from that.
    You're the only one bringing up the other witnesses to muddy the waters.

    I have only been talking about the contractors in the OP.

    So far, you have stated no reason to view their statement as su ious (why would anyone make up FEWER shots if they had an anti cop agenda?) and admitted they didn't change their story one iota.

    Thank you.

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