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    Nikos Varlas: "The Spurs are looking into the case of Gustavo Ayon. Nothing serious yet, but it complicates things more on his possible signing with Madrid.

    If he pays 290,000 euros to FC Barcelona, Gustavo Ayon will be free to sign with any team and will get a three year contract offer from Real Madrid"


    So he has not ,yet, signed with Real Madrid and his buyout with his current team is $375,988 dollars.

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    So the Spurs are entertaining the idea of paying to sign Ayon over Baynes? It just keeps getting weirder.

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    15 days remaining till the Spurs can pull their offer to Baynes. I hope there is resolution before then, at this point i really don't care which happens between resigning Baynes and pulling the offer.

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    Baynes needs to stay with Spurs for a while and up his value more before he can expect better offers. His current logic is suspect at best

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    I'm against whatever Baynes is trying to do at this point. If he doesn't have any other offers, what is he waiting for? The Spurs aren't going to let him screw them around by waiting for him much longer.

    He can sign another one year contract and try and up his value to get a bigger one next off-season.

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    It was fine that he waited to show his stuff at the WC, but not only is the whole tournament over, AUS went out early. If he didn't get another NBA offer by now, he won't.

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    It was fine that he waited to show his stuff at the WC, but not only is the whole tournament over, AUS went out early. If he didn't get another NBA offer by now, he won't.
    I probably should have mentioned what you said first. Australia got knocked out early, so I don't think his stock was raised too much as he didn't really take them anywhere. If he still hasn't gotten any other offers by now, then I have no idea what his strategy is at this point and what he is waiting for.

    Spurs will probably move on very soon. I don't think they will screw around with him much longer.

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    12 days till training camp starts for the Spurs. If the Spurs were going to make a move i would imagine it would be in that span. Whether that be a trade or signing a replacement for Baynes.

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    We all should realize that the Euro leagues can often pay more for a third tier player plus outside benefits like housing--and give him a shot at more minutes--than any NBA team. If you are a player and love the game, you want to play every game instead of sitting on the bench.

    Plus, given the relatively short career of most players, especially end of the bench players, it's very reasonable that he should try to get as much money as possible from whatever source.

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    So the Spurs are entertaining the idea of paying to sign Ayon over Baynes? It just keeps getting weirder.
    The Spurs just want a guy who has a little Mexican in him.

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    And it finally comes out. I feel like that's what they've been waiting for this whole time. However, I'm not sure they get any value for him. At best, they may get a rookie-scale player who's disappointed similar to Daye.

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    And it finally comes out. I feel like that's what they've been waiting for this whole time. However, I'm not sure they get any value for him. At best, they may get a rookie-scale player who's disappointed similar to Daye.
    I think SA wanted him back up to a point. They're likely as sick of this as some of us are. I think that the DAY that they can retract the QO, they will.

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    And it finally comes out. I feel like that's what they've been waiting for this whole time. However, I'm not sure they get any value for him. At best, they may get a rookie-scale player who's disappointed similar to Daye.
    At this point, I think they would be happy with a small TE.

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    I think SA wanted him back up to a point. They're likely as sick of this as some of us are. I think that the DAY that they can retract the QO, they will.
    What would be the rush?

    Unless they sign someone like Ayon or Baynes explicitly asks to go elsewhere, I don't know what the issue would be.

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    What would be the rush?

    Unless they sign someone like Ayon or Baynes explicitly asks to go elsewhere, I don't know what the issue would be.
    Retracting the QO after the first of next month allows the Spurs to keep Baynes' RFA status without guaranteeing him any salary.

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    Retracting the QO after the first of next month allows the Spurs to keep Baynes' RFA status without guaranteeing him any salary.
    But any salary match would require guaranteed money, so I don't know exactly what it changes.

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    But any salary match would require guaranteed money, so I don't know exactly what it changes.
    By allowing the QO to expire, the Spurs regain complete control of that roster spot. As long as the QO is outstanding, Baynes can choose to sign it at any time and claim that roster spot.

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    By allowing the QO to expire, the Spurs regain complete control of that roster spot. As long as the QO is outstanding, Baynes can choose to sign it at any time and claim that roster spot.
    So it would just mean they don't want him anymore. Which means the RFA status doesn't really mean that much in that case.

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    So it would just mean they don't want him anymore. Which means the RFA status doesn't really mean that much in that case.
    But allowing the QO to expire, and the guarantees associated with it, does mean something.

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    But any salary match would require guaranteed money, so I don't know exactly what it changes.
    Nope. Essentially, the Spurs can keep Baynes from signing with other NBA teams while also keeping their right to sign him. Right now, they owe Baynes money and essentially a spot. Come October, they don't owe him either.

    Also, if Baynes signs a deal overseas, he'll still be an RFA next year. So it's not like event that would help him.

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    But allowing the QO to expire, and the guarantees associated with it, does mean something.
    Right, that they don't want him this season.

    Nope. Essentially, the Spurs can keep Baynes from signing with other NBA teams while also keeping their right to sign him.
    So Baynes can't even sign an offer sheet?

    OK.

    We would probably never see him on the Spurs ever again. So at least it would be over save the requisite teeth gnashing and boxscore posting.

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    Right, that they don't want him this season.
    Not necessarily. On October 1st, they'll be able to retain their rights without leaving Baynes in control of a guaranteed roster spot. So they will.

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    Not necessarily. On October 1st, they'll be able to retain their rights without leaving Baynes in control of a guaranteed roster spot. So they will.
    He was more in control of getting the money than anything. The QO is as waiveable as everyone claims the other small contracts are.

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