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    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/93-year-old...murder-1465592

    State prosecutors in Germany are charging Oskar Groening with 300,000 counts of accessory to murder for serving as a guard at Auschwitz.

    93-year-old Groening has talked frankly about working as a Nazi guard at Auschwitz, saying that he witnessed terrible events but denies committing any crimes himself.

    In 2005, he told Der Spiegel magazine about one incident on "ramp duty" when he heard a baby crying. "I saw another SS soldier grab the baby by the legs..." he said. "He smashed the baby's head against the iron side of a truck until it was silent."

    Lawyers in Hanover said in a statement that he was part of the machinery of destruction during his time at the death camp in 1944. Groening is charged with helping collect and tally money stolen from inmates who were killed, according to an AP report.

    He "helped the Nazi regime benefit economically, and supported the systematic killings," said a prosecutor.

    It's also claimed that Groening assisted in removing the luggage of victims so that it was not seen by new arrivals, so they had no idea of what was to happen to them. "Traces of the mass killing of concentration camp prisoners were thereby supposed to be covered for subsequent inmates."

    Among other allegations include Groening being aware that the prisoners deemed unfit to work "were murdered directly after their arrival in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."

    Groening was arrested in March during a hunt for Nazi camp guards, which followed the 2011 Munich trial of John Demjanjuk, a Nazi war criminal charged of assisting in the murder of 28,060 people at the Sobibor death camp. The Nazi guard was sentenced to five years and died in 2012.

    The Demjanjuk ruling changed the statute of limitations in which Germany could only prosecute Nazi war criminals if witness testimony showed they personally committed atrocities. As a result of this ruling, all former Nazi camp guards can be tried for their part in the genocidal mass murder – even if they weren't directly involved in the murders.

    At Auschwitz around one million Jews were murdered, part of the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust. Oskar Groening is accused of helping operate Auschwitz in occupied Poland between May and June 1944, when 425,000 Jews from Hungary were brought there and at least 300,000 were gassed to death.

    Thomas Walther, who represents 20 Auschwitz victims and their families as co-plaintiffs in the case against Groening as allowed under German law, said it's their last chance "to participate in bringing justice to one of the SS men who had a part in the murder of their closest relatives."

    "Many of the co-plaintiffs are among the last survivors of Auschwitz," he told AP.

    According to AFP, a regional court now needs to decide whether Groening will go on trial. Groening's attorney, Hans Holtermann, declined to comment on the charges.
    Didn't realize they finally succeeded in convicting Ivan the Terrible 3 years ago too.

    At the same time, these guys are in their 90's...don't the authorities have something better to do than raid old folks homes

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    Didn't realize they finally succeeded in convicting Ivan the Terrible 3 years ago too.

    At the same time, these guys are in their 90's...don't the authorities have something better to do than raid old folks homes
    My aunt was his foreman at the Ford plant in Cleveland when he was first arrested in the 80's. He was convicted, but because the conviction was under appeal when he died it was revoked. And since there is no conviction his US citizenship is being restored posthumously.

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    Can't believe they were still prosecuting Demjanjuk as recently as 2011. They were prosecuting him for war crimes when I was a kid in the late '80s. Wasn't he acquitted of being Ivan the Terrible by an Israeli court?

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    My aunt was his foreman at the Ford plant in Cleveland when he was first arrested in the 80's.
    She have any stories about him (besides the obvious arrest)?

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    Can't believe they were still prosecuting Demjanjuk as recently as 2011. They were prosecuting him for war crimes when I was a kid in the late '80s. Wasn't he acquitted of being Ivan the Terrible by an Israeli court?
    Think I heard about that on one of those Nazi hunter episodes

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    She have any stories about him (besides the obvious arrest)?
    Not really, just that he wasn't very nice or friendly. Kept to himself and everyone avoided contact with him because he was so gruff. So when he was arrested no one was very surprised.

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    IIRC Demjanjuk lived in Parma, which is pretty much the ideal Cleveland suburb for an ex-SS man. Holocaust survivors on the East Side, ex-Nazis on the West Side.

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    'em. Let them all die.

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    My Nazigga

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    I'm pretty sure he'd be dead within a couple months anyways. Besides, it's water under the bridge now

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    I'm pretty sure he'd be dead within a couple months anyways. Besides, it's water under the bridge now
    not just water

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    Check out the Holocaust and Zionism sections of this forum.
    http://waronyou.com/forums/

    A lot of good info has been posted there.
    A lot of "good" info from inbred nazi gots who do nothing but post links to youtube videos that they instantly swallow up as fact, no wonder you post there

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    I'm pretty sure he'd be dead within a couple months anyways. Besides, it's water under the bridge now
    Past the prime torturing days, yes. Still deserves to pay for what was done. Water under the bridge? Not sure about that...I'd be still pissed if one of my relatives were a victim.

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    It's called cleaning

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    I guess this will satisfy the revenge of many, but if he was just a guard and didn't commit crimes himself, is this fair?

    He would have no doubt been killed himself if he didn't do as ordered.

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    I guess this will satisfy the revenge of many, but if he was just a guard and didn't commit crimes himself, is this fair?

    He would have no doubt been killed himself if he didn't do as ordered.
    It's been a long time since I read his story, but I believe his job description was "prison guard" but that he participated in a lot more than just guarding. That was according to eye witnesses; of course there are probably not many of them left either.

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    Past the prime torturing days, yes. Still deserves to pay for what was done. Water under the bridge? Not sure about that...I'd be still pissed if one of my relatives were a victim.
    Except that the holocaust the way it's written didn't actually happen.

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    I'm pretty sure he'd be dead within a couple months anyways. Besides, it's water under the bridge now
    well for sure it's not gonna change anything for him but for the family who lost someone in those camps yes surely

    plus it's an important remember note for those who forgot this happened

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    Except that the holocaust the way it's written didn't actually happen.
    based on what ?

    my grand father spent almost one year in a working camp in Germany... a working camp was a soft boot camp compared to Auschwitz... By comparaison Auschwitz was probably worst than the way it is written.

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    recently I'm on the holocaust was horrible, memory duty, it's bad to beat down a child stuff....

    I'm becoming too mainstream for ST tbh


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    based on what ?

    my grand father spent almost one year in a working camp in Germany... a working camp was a soft boot camp compared to Auschwitz... By comparaison Auschwitz was probably worst than the way it is written.
    so basically he doesn't know any more about what went on at Auschwitz than you do.

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    Except that the holocaust the way it's written didn't actually happen.
    How do you know that? Because you read conspiracy theories over the web? Why don't you set the record straight then.

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    so basically he doesn't know any more about what went on at Auschwitz than you do.


    ^Youre a sorry, angry at the world, anti-social racist tbh.

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    the germans would never ship people across europe just to kill them, they're too efficient
    zyklon b is bug spray, not efficient for killing humans, and there was a huge typhus outbreak in europe because of the lice
    the camps were set up with leisure activities and auschwitz had a ing swimming pool
    the 6 million figure has been debunked by even mainstream historians
    there weren't even that many jews in europe according to census data
    the "gas chambers" weren't even airtight
    the numerous holohoax photos which were debunked as soviet propaganda. you can literally pull up examples online where they'll show you the edited version and then the original.
    been proven mathematically impossibly according to the number of camps, small number of crematories in each camp, and the amount of time it takes to completely incinerate a human body
    the camps didn't even open until 1943
    the germans were meticulous record keepers but somehow there is no written order by hitler or any of the senior leadership
    jews have lied throughout history and claimed numerous other "holocausts" before in the past, look it up
    anne franks diary was started with an old style pen and finished in ball point pen. the ball point pen wasn't invented until a few years after the war.

    the list goes on and on, do your own research you lazy.

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    ^Youre a sorry, angry at the world, anti-social racist tbh.
    you're a be@ner.

    lol utsa

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