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    2 mil is a bit high but it does seem fair, especialy with the amount of money Errors is getting. Wouldnt you not want more then errors?

    But yea keeping Errors glued to the bench is worth 2 mil imo
    What makes you think Ayers is going to be glued to the bench all season?

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    But yea keeping Errors glued to the bench is worth 2 mil imo
    Common sense says due to his extremely poor season and even tier summer league showing, he wouldn't get any playing time. But we all know Pop is going to play his pathetic re ed ass because of some favor he owes Boylen.

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    Common sense says due to his extremely poor season and even tier summer league showing, he wouldn't get any playing time. But we all know Pop is going to play his pathetic re ed ass because of some favor he owes Boylen.
    Bashes Ayres but reps one of the biggest pussies/underperformers in the NFL in his avi. Go figure.

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    lol "common sense"

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    How is he not?

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    Who cares? Baynes is what is known as a 'replacement level player'. If the Spurs can take a 26 YO undrafted Aussie and turn him into an NBA roster player, there probably is 50 guys out there they can do that with. There is nothing special, basketball-wise, about Aron Baynes.
    Baynes has made tremendous strides this offseason, as was clearly on display in the FIBA World Cup. There's a reason why the Spurs are so "determined" to re-sign him--he's gotten that much better. Given all that, what is an extra $900K to the Spurs' front office when we're millions below the luxury tax?

    Besides, would you rather have Errors taking 4th big minutes in the regular season rotation?

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    Diaw did struggle mightily guarding Aldridge, but despite that, Baynes never defended him. He is useful against Howard, but like I said, if they play the Rockets in a series, Duncan and Splitter (in that order) will get the Howard assignment and if they have to buy a few minutes here or there with Diaw or Ayres on him, so be it. That's not going to decide the series.
    Baynes defended Lopez, he matched up well against him. You're overlooking that those teams will play those guys 40+ mpg, and when you get one of Tim or Tiago in foul trouble, you're going to need a fallback guy. That's the reason Baynes received minutes in the playoffs at all. You could throw Diaw, Ayres and Bonner at them, and you'll be right back at Spurs circa 2011: red carpet under the rim. You could argue it might just cost you a single game in a series, but is $2m insurance that high a price to pay?

    To Dwight and Lopez you gotta tack on Marc Gasol, ZBo, Adams, etc... Now, I understand he's not a 'key' piece. He's just a luxury to have as insurance. I just think he would be more useful to us than, say, Daye...

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    Ayres is a regular season minute burner, much like Blair was, and thus, he's going to play a lot of regular season minutes. That's his role and we managed to win 60+ games last season 'despite' him, so don't expect that to really change. The real season starts in the playoffs, and unless Ayres shows some major improvement, I doubt he'll be part of that rotation.

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    Baynes has made tremendous strides this offseason, as was clearly on display in the FIBA World Cup. There's a reason why the Spurs are so "determined" to re-sign him--he's gotten that much better. Given all that, what is an extra $900K to the Spurs' front office when we're millions below the luxury tax?

    Besides, would you rather have Errors taking 4th big minutes in the regular season rotation?
    FIBA ball is fool's gold in this case. Their rules/refs allow a LOT more contact and banging in the paint.

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    Baynes defended Lopez, he matched up well against him. You're overlooking that those teams will play those guys 40+ mpg, and when you get one of Tim or Tiago in foul trouble, you're going to need a fallback guy. That's the reason Baynes received minutes in the playoffs at all. You could throw Diaw, Ayres and Bonner at them, and you'll be right back at Spurs circa 2011: red carpet under the rim. You could argue it might just cost you a single game in a series, but is $2m insurance that high a price to pay?

    To Dwight and Lopez you gotta tack on Marc Gasol, ZBo, Adams, etc... Now, I understand he's not a 'key' piece. He's just a luxury to have as insurance. I just think he would be more useful to us than, say, Daye...
    As if Lopez is his brother and as if he plays 40+ mpg at any time. Like I said, they have fallback guys. I don't know why you seem to think Ayres lacks strength. Any way you slice it, Ayres and Baynes are redundant.

    M. Gasol is an overrated pussy, that routinely allows teams to get away with defenders on him who he should punish. The Spurs got away with Diaw defending him down the stretch of a game two seasons ago.

    Randolph isn't nearly the threat he was since his knee injury a couple of years back and is the rare big any of the Spurs bigs (with the exception of Daye) could conceivably guard in stretches.

    Adams, a lesser version of the lesser Lopez.

    Daye, like Ayres has a contract and on a team with three centers, offers more balance.

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    What makes you think Ayers is going to be glued to the bench all season?
    Cause He Sucks...

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    Cause He Sucks...
    Why?

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    Cause He Sucks...
    Pop must be a bad coach, then. Ayres played 20 more games and damn near double the minutes last year.

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    He's worth at least 2 Ayers. So, 4 million?

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    As if Lopez is his brother and as if he plays 40+ mpg at any time. Like I said, they have fallback guys. I don't know why you seem to think Ayres lacks strength. Any way you slice it, Ayres and Baynes are redundant.
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    Daye, like Ayres has a contract and on a team with three centers, offers more balance.
    Well, we certainly disagree. Outside of garbage time, I never, ever would like to see Ayres or Daye in a playoff game for the Spurs (at least with what they've shown so far). Baynes, in spot minutes, he's done it, and done it well. As I said, known quan y.

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    people acting like Baynes is asking for huge numbers lol. That's $2M a year. Very low considering Baynes strengths and potential

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    You didn't watch any games last year?

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    You didn't watch any games last year?
    I did.

    So why?

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    Cause he sucks...

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    Hey, circular reasoning.

    lol SpursTalk

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    It's like talking to a 5 year old, isn't it?

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    It's like talking to a 5 year old, isn't it?
    You're like a room full of them tbh.

    Now stamp your feet and pout.

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    If someone needs to explain to you why Errors sucks, then no one can help you, tbh.

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    Now stamp your feet and pout.
    If someone needs to explain to you why Errors sucks, then no one can help you, tbh.
    lol

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    If someone needs to explain to you why Errors sucks, then no one can help you, tbh.
    Dead on.

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