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    Spur Forever urunobili's Avatar
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    Since Kawhi hasn't been resigned I wonder if them Lakers fans have any expectations (don't know even if he's part of their taste and kept in their good graces) of him being the targeted free agent since Durant since to be headed to Washington.

    The kid is a local there after all and KoB will be gone by then.

    Just testing the waters tbh




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    Would be nice if we can pick him up. A Kobe/Leonard combo would wreak havoc in 2016.

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    Why settle for Leonard? If you're going pie in the sky, you might aswell sign Lebron and Davis.

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    Would be nice if we can pick him up. A Kobe/Leonard combo would wreak havoc in 2016.
    You're kidding right?

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    Sorry, but Ballmer is buying Kawhi in 2016....

    Kawhi and Blake

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    Many teams will clear room for Durant and Lebron in 2016, and Love to an extent. Davis will likely get an extension next summer, Kawhi will likely get one this year (I hope).

    But then, there really are only two players worth the max in Durant and Lebron, which means that many teams will be left out, and with a burning hole in their pockets. Players like Noah and Horford will be paid because of that.

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    Many teams will clear room for Durant and Lebron in 2016, and Love to an extent. Davis will likely get an extension next summer, Kawhi will likely get one this year (I hope).

    But then, there really are only two players worth the max in Durant and Lebron, which means that many teams will be left out, and with a burning hole in their pockets. Players like Noah and Horford will be paid because of that.
    IF Davis stays healthy would pay him max. But outside of that I agree those are the only two current players worth the max.

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    KL I would throw huge money at but not max ...

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    IF Davis stays healthy would pay him max. But outside of that I agree those are the only two current players worth the max.
    You're right, Davis is a max player too.

    KL I would throw huge money at but not max ...
    Not under the current CBA, but he will be worth it in the new projected CBA. Also, he will get either the max, or something close to it. There is no way he gets less coin than Hayward and Parsons.

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    Methinks he's a one trick pony, though without him carrying that sexual Duncan to it---it would still be:::

    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    You're right, Davis is a max player too.



    Not under the current CBA, but he will be worth it in the new projected CBA. Also, he will get either the max, or something close to it. There is no way he gets less coin than Hayward and Parsons.
    I agree he deserves more than those clowns even broke down Kobe does tbh ....

    But even with new projected I think it is unwise to pay max money to non max money players. KL is trending upwards but is he a tony Parker or Chauncey level of finals MVP? Is heeven Dirk, Pierce or Kobe when they won? Those are 3 HOF who were never as good (still great) after they won their last finals MVP?

    Love KL but I wouldnt do it (max)

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    I agree he deserves more than those clowns even broke down Kobe does tbh ....

    But even with new projected I think it is unwise to pay max money to non max money players. KL is trending upwards but is he a tony Parker or Chauncey level of finals MVP? Is heeven Dirk, Pierce or Kobe when they won? Those are 3 HOF who were never as good (still great) after they won their last finals MVP?

    Love KL but I wouldnt do it (max)
    No question, I don't think that he should, but he just will (or get close to it). That's just the way the market is for SFs in todays' league.

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    Even if we don't extend Kawhi he'd be restricted and the Spurs would essentially match anything

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    The idea that just because LeBron and Durant are absolute steals at the max that no one else is worth the max is ridiculous.

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    better off chasing westbrick

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    The idea that just because LeBron and Durant are absolute steals at the max that no one else is worth the max is ridiculous.
    I doubt he ever leaves ...maybe only if Pop leaves prior to his decision point. Lakers really need to miss playoffs and keep their first rounder my guess is draft wont be great but need to hit a KL or PG (pre-injury) type home-run. A loyal young prospect who rises but not too fast ...gotta keep those contracts down ...

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    The idea that just because LeBron and Durant are absolute steals at the max that no one else is worth the max is ridiculous.
    Well, IMO, there aren't many max players (if you are talking basketball & not marketing). Max to me means you can take a bad team to a playoff team (Bron w CLE) or a good team to a legit contender. There really aren't that many. Look at all the guys getting max or close to it that go to playoff teams & barely move the needle.

    Obviously there are other cir stances (marketing, ticket sales, market attractiveness) but for basketball reasons I don't think there are many worth the max at the moment considering the % of the cap they take up.

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    Well, IMO, there aren't many max players (if you are talking basketball & not marketing). Max to me means you can take a bad team to a playoff team (Bron w CLE) or a good team to a legit contender. There really aren't that many. Look at all the guys getting max or close to it that go to playoff teams & barely move the needle.

    Obviously there are other cir stances (marketing, ticket sales, market attractiveness) but for basketball reasons I don't think there are many worth the max at the moment considering the % of the cap they take up.
    Exactly. It's a 2 man club with Advais knocking at the door. I would say Paul, Blake, Russ are just a couple notches below that. But only Lebron and KD are for sure in that club.

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    Exactly. It's a 2 man club with Advais knocking at the door. I would say Paul, Blake, Russ are just a couple notches below that. But only Lebron and KD are for sure in that club.
    Dwight was that player too, unfortunate since he can't capitalize his talent.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Well, IMO, there aren't many max players (if you are talking basketball & not marketing). Max to me means you can take a bad team to a playoff team (Bron w CLE) or a good team to a legit contender. There really aren't that many. Look at all the guys getting max or close to it that go to playoff teams & barely move the needle.

    Obviously there are other cir stances (marketing, ticket sales, market attractiveness) but for basketball reasons I don't think there are many worth the max at the moment considering the % of the cap they take up.
    That definition of max player would be great if max was $35 million. Since max is roughly $20 million guys like Westbrook, Davis, Griffin, Paul, Love, Anthony, and Howard are pretty easily max guys too.

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    That definition of max player would be great if max was $35 million. Since max is roughly $20 million guys like Westbrook, Davis, Griffin, Paul, Love, Anthony, and Howard are pretty easily max guys too.
    I get what you saying and you are not wrong. I'm just saying if you want to be a le team makes sense to pay top dollar if giving max to prime Tim, Shaq, Kobe ... but how many teams have won giving max money to players that are not legit top 5 players? For me at 35 or even 20 million and it's just I think the best chance at maintaining success and being a legit le contender is only paying a select few guys THAT kind of money. I get for ticket sales, Large small market payouts to keep a home-grown talent or to attract a FA ...but that fails so much more than it succeeds. I dont even mine the near guys like Paul and blake getting max i just dont like the But any non all-star type (parsons/Hayward) that you pay big money to is crippling to long term success. Despite his warts I would have loved to keep Dwight at 18 mill for 4 same for Melo. Neither provide Lebron or KD type value so I would not pay a premium for it.

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    Sorry, but Ballmer is buying Kawhi in 2016....

    Kawhi and Blake
    King Paul
    Crawford
    Kawhi
    Griffin
    DeMonkey

    Duncan and Parker would obviously follow the mule that carried them to try and coattail to another ring. sons your team would be unstoppable.

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    Sorry, but Ballmer is buying Kawhi in 2016....

    Kawhi and Blake
    lol keep dreaming

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    I get what you saying and you are not wrong. I'm just saying if you want to be a le team makes sense to pay top dollar if giving max to prime Tim, Shaq, Kobe ... but how many teams have won giving max money to players that are not legit top 5 players? For me at 35 or even 20 million and it's just I think the best chance at maintaining success and being a legit le contender is only paying a select few guys THAT kind of money. I get for ticket sales, Large small market payouts to keep a home-grown talent or to attract a FA ...but that fails so much more than it succeeds. I dont even mine the near guys like Paul and blake getting max i just dont like the But any non all-star type (parsons/Hayward) that you pay big money to is crippling to long term success. Despite his warts I would have loved to keep Dwight at 18 mill for 4 same for Melo. Neither provide Lebron or KD type value so I would not pay a premium for it.
    You're essentially saying let your best talent walk if it's not LeBron or Durant. I don't see that as a way to build a le contender either.

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    You're essentially saying let your best talent walk if it's not LeBron or Durant. I don't see that as a way to build a le contender either.
    Not walk, trade. The dwill, Penny and Arenas of the world scares me how many fell off the cliff after they got paid? You overpay to keep or acquire non franchise studs and you never (rarely) get that value back. Spurs have kept a good core without paying max. Not sure if any other team has won a le with no max players. But I can list you a bunch of teams that have not won paying dudes max that do not deserve it. Of course you pay prime guys max money and if you have legit ones you do everything you can to hold on to 'em. if they are not that you can overpay for shorter years or give more years at an annual discount. Giving both (max years and money) to non franchise guys is dumb. a young guy with breakout potential I get you will have to overpay some to keep (KL). But i think rox was smart not to match on Parsons and Utah was dumb to do so with Gordon. Same with Pelicans with Eric Gordon. Does Josh smith deserve his contract? Suns were wise to let Amare go. Jazz were wise to trade Dwill. All non franchise guys that got paid like one. Even the spurs as smart as they come got burned by the RJ trade ...have they made that mistake since? clips future looks good but what if they traded Deandre and could have given that money to someone else? How much more value does Monta Ellis have at his current salary versus his previous one?

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