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  1. #801
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    there's nothing wrong with being a mediocre gambler
    Dude, when I tell you this....

    Niners/Indy/Cincy/Denver/Sea....have gone 110-64ATS the two last seasons I'm lying?

    as of right now...plus 300.

    If I'm playing that system .......now think.

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    either play the system or don't. you keep talking about it, but its not like that's all you've been using

    its just a lot of shoulda woulda coulda talk

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    either play the system or don't. you keep talking about it, but its not like that's all you've been using

    its just a lot of shoulda woulda coulda talk
    You didn't answer my question? Do you believe those five teams have averaged 55-32 the last two years? Well?

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    you're also 2 plays away from being 5-10
    Why do you fight this so damn hard? It isn't real obvious I know what I'm doing? I have everything anyone could possibly want right at my fingertips, everything. Don't you think over a 20 some week season al that info/knowledge will prevail over non extra point trys/blown 27-3 leads?

    Dude, I can sit here right now and run down every single 1000 yard rusher in the history of the NFL by college and pro team right off the top of my head and I can't pick the right side of a football game, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    It doesn't work that way. Kids play that silliness.

    I only play "spots" and it's for real $$$$.

    I might not find 8 "spots' especially with so many of the good ATS teams on a bye week.

    Dude, why this "need' to battle with me over this? Been at it a long time and usually hit around 60-65%. This will be no different. That hardest month is Sept. After that it does get a lot easier.

    There a few punk kids here we jerked around for awhile, time to get real in 2014.
    2012: "was just kidding, now it's time to get real"
    2013: "was just kidding, now it's time to get real"
    2014: "was just kidding, now it's time to get real"
    2015: etc
    2025: (if still alive): "was just kidding etc"

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    Let's talk reality.

    Avante in 2012: Do ented under .500 for the entire season
    Avante in 2013: Do ented under .500 for the entire season
    Avante in 2014: Do ented under .500 through the first 3 weeks of the season.

    The stats/trends clearly indicate that Avante is an under .500 better in this "spot".

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    Yep. I wouldn't bet the Cherger game either. A large spread, Chargers played down to opponents too often last year, unknown QB, and Ingram,Te'o,woodhead,mathews,hardwick all out and players like Attaochu, Addae, Allen, Verret have been dealing with injuries

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    Avante if you like supers ious trends or spots or w/e, you also might want to consider that the Raiders flew out to London sunday evening after the Patriots game, and they've been practicing and getting acclimated to the local time.

    The Dolphins aren't going to fly out until Friday. it is a 5 hour time difference from the east coast to england... so the time difference is nearly twice that of west coast teams traveling east

    the game is taking place 1pm EST, but to the Dolphins it will feel like they are playing at 8am

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    Avante if you like supers ious trends or spots or w/e, you also might want to consider that the Raiders flew out to London sunday evening after the Patriots game, and they've been practicing and getting acclimated to the local time.

    The Dolphins aren't going to fly out until Friday. it is a 5 hour time difference from the east coast to england... so the time difference is nearly twice that of west coast teams traveling east

    the game is taking place 1pm EST, but to the Dolphins it will feel like they are playing at 8am
    SHouldn't it still feel like 1 pm their time?

    What you said is like saying West coast teams feel like they are playingat 7 am when they play at 1 pm EST on the east coast.

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    SHouldn't it still feel like 1 pm their time?

    What you said is like saying West coast teams feel like they are playingat 7 am when they play at 1 pm EST on the east coast.
    oh wait, yeah i think i messed up there

    what i said would make sense if they were playing 1PM in london time

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    oh wait, yeah i think i messed up there

    what i said would make sense if they were playing 1PM in london time
    yep. haha/

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    Avante if you like supers ious trends or spots or w/e, you also might want to consider that the Raiders flew out to London sunday evening after the Patriots game, and they've been practicing and getting acclimated to the local time.

    The Dolphins aren't going to fly out until Friday. it is a 5 hour time difference from the east coast to england... so the time difference is nearly twice that of west coast teams traveling east

    the game is taking place 1pm EST, but to the Dolphins it will feel like they are playing at 8am
    Where do you get 'supers ious" at? I told you that the Raiders do not win games in the ETZ regardless of coach/players historically speaking. They are proving that true this season.

    Playing in London is a unique/strange 'spot" for any NFL team. So ya leave it totally alone from a ATS perspective. We have no idea how this trip will work for anyone. We have nothing to look at.

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    Let's break down tonights game....

    The Redskins have never lost a Thursday night game at home.

    But...the Giants are 3-1 on Thursday night games. I'm talking SU here.

    Kirk Cousins on a short week in front of a national audience. Obviously Eli has been in this sort of "spot' numerous times.

    It appears the Redskins are all beat up, 17 players nursing some ailment.

    Home teams have won all three Thursday night games this season and it is an historially strong 'spot" to play the home team.

    But.......with all those Redskins hurting and Cousins in a unique "spot" for him, how can you back the Skins? So do you buck that Thursday night trend?

    Too many...???....to play this game.

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    I'm taking the Skins

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    I'm taking the Skins
    Talk me into that play.

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    Talk me into that play.
    no.

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    Well ya do have that strong ....home teams on Thursday night..."spot" working for you.

    The Reskins at home the last two years...3-6

    Giants about the same on the road. But have beaten Washingon 3 of the last 4 losing that one by one.
    Last edited by Avante; 09-25-2014 at 01:49 PM.

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    i dont care about historic trends. right now the redskins are a better team and are at home.

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    i dont care about historic trends. right now the redskins are a better team and are at home.
    How do you figure the Skins are a better team right now?

    They are 1-2 and beat the lowly Jags at home. They lost to Houston a team the Giants kicked ass on.

    The Giants lost to Detroit/Arizona.

    There is nothing "right now" that has the Skins as the better team...nothing!

    We have two conflicting trends here.....that Thursday night home team ...thing, and the fact the Giants have owned the Skins lately.

    There is nothing at all that tells us the Skins are the better team right now.

    Last meeting...Giants 20 Skins 6 and that was the last game of 2013. Since then both are 1-2.

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    it doesn't work that way... houston beat redskins, giants beat houston, therefore giants > redskins. nope that's not how it works at all.

    Kirk Cousins is a much better option that Cousins, who was playing in the week 1 loss. the skins are ranked high in both offense and defense. at this stage the records aren't always indicative of how good teams are. having watched the games, its clear to me that the skins are the better team

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    it doesn't work that way... houston beat redskins, giants beat houston, therefore giants > redskins. nope that's not how it works at all.

    Kirk Cousins is a much better option that Cousins, who was playing in the week 1 loss. the skins are ranked high in both offense and defense. at this stage the records aren't always indicative of how good teams are. having watched the games, its clear to me that the skins are the better team
    I don't put too much into who beat who either but if we are looking for something to make a case this early....hey.

    After three games there just isn't enought info to debate two 1-2 teams. Nothing to...see see look at that. So why act like there is?

    Eli Manning on the big National stage vs a guy coming off a short week in a "spot" new to him...hmmm? We can't ignore this.

    This is a game ya just watch, too many...???? Just like that London game with the Raiders/Dolphins.

    Too many...????...in both those "spots". SOOOOOOOOOOO...many far better "spots' this week.

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    Check out Tyreek Hill with Oklahoma St tonight (DVR). When he enters the NFL he will be the fastest back in the league. Just think of a faster Percy Harvin (Hill also lines up all over the place and was returning kicks)

    I think he's going to play.
    Last edited by Avante; 09-25-2014 at 02:55 PM.

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    Looks like Eli Manning isn't washed up after all, hahaha!!!!!!!! Now it;s Kirk Cousins who sucks...right?

    So much for over reacting to a couple games.

    Cousins in a unique situation for himself, and he didn't know how to handle it. I mentioned that might happen.

    I hope some of you are learning a few things about over reacting to early seasons games. It's never as good/bad as it appears.
    Last edited by Avante; 09-26-2014 at 02:12 AM.

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    I do think it's safe to say that....

    The Buc;s will suck.

    The Niners really miss Bowman/Smith.

    Russell Wilson is now among the elite QB's.

    The Cardinals can play some serious D.

    The Bengals are the class of the AFC.

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    weird how u can make a post like that just after talking about overreacting to 3 games

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