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    Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.

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    Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.
    Or they could renounce him but still value him more than other teams

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    Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.
    I think he makes a mark for himself, tbh. All he needs is the opportunity.

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    can you explain a bit more how the rules work on this? Or the logic behind this?
    Rather than pay him a lower amount for two years, he was paid more for one. It keeps Aron happy with signing a one year deal and gives the Spurs the maximum possible cap space if they choose to renounce his rights next summer.

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    Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.
    if he plays half as good as he did in the world's, he'll get resigned. just as long as Pop's ridiculous love affair with Errors doesn't go overboard like last season, Baynes should get steady playing time and a chance to prove himself.

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    Great! now we have the same team and some monetary motivation.
    GO BACK TO THE GYM BAYNES! TIME TO USE PUNCHING BALLS AND WORK ON YOUR PILEDRIVERS!
    I would kill to see dwert getting piledrived.

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    FWIW Aron Baynes can block a trade this season - San Antonio Spurs @BBallInsiders


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    so barring any cuts we know who our 15 man roster will be... the question will be who the two in-actives will be. obviously for first handful of months Mills will be one. candidates are Anderson, Daye, Ayres, Baynes, Bonner... since they actually went out and re-signed Baynes for more than the QO it tells me they actually want him on the game-day roster though

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    The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.

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    The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.
    He had early Bird rights. No need for another exception, right?

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    The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.
    They don't have early Bird rights?

    Is there an initial signing date he missed that first season?

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    He had early Bird rights. No need for another exception, right?
    Early Bird contracts have to be for at least two years.

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    The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.
    Early Bird contracts have to be for at least two years.
    hmm, bi annual seems to make sense. rounded up it comes out to the reported 2.1

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    Even stranger then that the team didn't tack on some type of option year.

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    Even stranger then that the team didn't tack on some type of option year.
    had they given an option year then declined it, would he be restricted?

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    had they given an option year then declined it, would he be restricted?
    Yes. Would be a Parsons situation.

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    had they given an option year then declined it, would he be restricted?
    No. It appears that they value flexibility next summer over keeping the full MLE intact for the rest of the current season.

    Edit: Chinook is right.

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    so barring any cuts we know who our 15 man roster will be... the question will be who the two in-actives will be. obviously for first handful of months Mills will be one. candidates are Anderson, Daye, Ayres, Baynes, Bonner... since they actually went out and re-signed Baynes for more than the QO it tells me they actually want him on the game-day roster though
    Training camp, and the per-season should sort that out. Whether Daye or Anderson fill the "combo" forward spot or Ayers or Baynes will fill the backup C spot.

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    Yes. Would be a Parsons situation.
    No. It appears that they value flexibility next summer over keeping the full MLE intact for the rest of the current season.

    Edit: Chinook is right.
    thanks guys

    i don't think the MLE matters for this season, our roster is already saturated

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    so barring any cuts we know who our 15 man roster will be... the question will be who the two in-actives will be. obviously for first handful of months Mills will be one. candidates are Anderson, Daye, Ayres, Baynes, Bonner... since they actually went out and re-signed Baynes for more than the QO it tells me they actually want him on the game-day roster though
    Anderson is the easy choice once the d-league season starts. But at the same time, the Spurs need ball-handlers. Right now, Manu would be the third PG, and he's not the most durable player out there. Having Anderson active would make a lot of sense, though not as much as bringing in a real third PG would.

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    No. It appears that they value flexibility next summer over keeping the full MLE intact for the rest of the current season.

    Edit: Chinook is right.
    Also, by using the MLE, the Spurs are not hard-capped for this season like they would be if they used the LLE. Not that they'll get anywhere near the apron in all likelihood, but you never know.

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    Anderson is the easy choice once the d-league season starts. But at the same time, the Spurs need ball-handlers. Right now, Manu would be the third PG, and he's not the most durable player out there. Having Anderson active would make a lot of sense, though not as much as bringing in a real third PG would.
    right, but who would get cut to make that happen?

    unless you are merely suggesting we should already have signed one

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    right, but who would get cut to make that happen?

    unless you are merely suggesting we should already have signed one
    I think the Spurs SHOULD look to empty at least one roster spot that they could use on a PG (Cotton in all likelihood). But since they won't do that unless someone else gets hurt, I think it makes sense to keep Anderson on the big roster just in case they need a handler if someone gets hurt in-game. Right now, it's Parker, Joseph and Manu. That's crazy thin, especially for the Spurs.

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    The one year deal then looks to be a compromise. Baynes would have almost certainly preferred two guaranteed years and the Spurs would have liked one year plus an option.

    The other possibility is that one plus an option doesn't meet the requirements of the Early Bird Exception as it could be seen as cir venting its provisions.

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    The one year deal then looks to be a compromise. Baynes would have almost certainly preferred two guaranteed years and the Spurs would have liked one year plus an option.

    The other possibility is that one plus an option doesn't meet the requirements of the Early Bird Exception as it could be seen as cir venting its provisions.
    i think it works out well. he gets a 1 year deal and then he's either going to be a UFA or his RFA tender will get him a pretty solid number anyway

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