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    Then why do you say you are a God?

    Do you think you are the only ONE GOD?
    I am the Troll God, the God of trolls. You trolls created me by the mere imaginative thought, and God the Father made me manifest for the benefit of you trolls.

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    I maintain that a day in God' reality is most likely and probably hugely different time span than what we humans perceive it to be.

    If you want to believe it is a "human day" you are more than welcome to and you will have lots of company by many who interpret the Bible literally.

    That is your prerogative.

    I do not believe that.
    the bible says day many times, even within the book of genesis. in noah's tale, it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. a day is a day. both tales are in the book of genesis so its silly to claim that they mean different things. there is no indication that he meant anything other than a day. or he would have said aeons, years, etc.


    I don't. When it comes to God, I believe that nothing is impossible and everything is possible, plus everything we humans have not imagined in between due to our limited capabilities.
    ok, if you don't know, then don't assert "THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD" as you did before.

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    I am the Troll God, the God of trolls. You trolls created me by the mere imaginative thought, and God the Father made me manifest for the benefit of you trolls.
    No, you're just a guy who got butthurt, said he died and threatened to sue other posters, then came back after two weeks of lurking with one of the worst shticks ever devised in the history of interneting.

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    the bible says day many times, even within the book of genesis. in noah's tale, it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. a day is a day. both tales are in the book of genesis so its silly to claim that they mean different things. there is no indication that he meant anything other than a day. or he would have said aeons, years, etc.
    Why are you imposing your own limitations on a book, just one of many religious books written about God, your own biases and interpretations?

    Why is it so hard for you wrap your mind around the possibility that time spans for a Devine En y may be very very different than for normal humans.

    Even in humanity time spans are different from one another.

    If this were not the case, how is it that from individual to individual you can lose a day on occasion, or that drugs distort reality and time, or that upon speeding to the speed of light time is different and we age less fast than those standing still?


    ok, if you don't know, then don't assert "THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD" as you did before.
    But there is only ONE God, just many countless interpretations of the Same ONE IMHO, that seems fairly obvious to me.

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    No, you're just a guy who got butthurt, said he died and threatened to sue other posters, then came back after two weeks of lurking with one of the worst shticks ever devised in the history of interneting.
    I forgive you this convoluted opinion too, do not worry.

    You have my permission to continue to ridicule me further!

    You are doing well sometimes, and failing miserably other times.

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    I forgive you this convoluted opinion too, do not worry.

    You have my permission to continue to ridicule me further!

    You are doing well sometimes, and failing miserably other times.
    Which part are you specifically denying?

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    There is only ONE GOD
    how do you know that?
    But there is only ONE God
    you are just going in circles and circles as usual which is why its impossible to take you seriously in these dicussions

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    you are just going in circles and circles as usual which is why its impossible to take you seriously in these dicussions
    No, you want to "interpret" a particular religious book, in this case the Bible, in a certain way, and want everyone else to interpret it the same way you do, but some of us refuse to do that because some of us think it is too illogical to think that way.

    But you are welcome to go along with the "literalists" if you want to, I choose not to, for me that would be foolish and naive.

    I told you "exactly" what I thought and believe concerning biblical time spans such as a "day" and the why-fores as well.

    You don't like the answer because it doesn't conform to your literalist "black-n-white-ONLY, no-gray-area" point of view, but it works for me and others just fine and is no circle for us.

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    No, you want to "interpret" a particular religious book, in this case the Bible, in a certain way, and want everyone else to interpret it the same way you do, but some of us refuse to do that because some of us think it is too illogical to think that way.

    But you are welcome to go along with the "literalists" if you want to, I choose not to, for me that would be foolish and naive.

    I told you "exactly" what I thought and believe concerning biblical time spans such as a "day" and the why-fores as well.

    You don't like the answer because it doesn't conform to your literalist "black-n-white-ONLY, no-gray-area" point of view, but it works for me and others just fine and is no circle for us.
    read the exchange i quoted in post #57

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    read the exchange i quoted in post #57
    I did, and I believe that there is only ONE God, just many views, interpretations, books, names, religions, etc, but still only ONE God.

    What is circular about that?

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    I did, and I believe that there is only ONE God, just many views, interpretations, books, names, religions, etc, but still only ONE God.

    What is circular about that?
    you said there is one god. i asked how you knew. you said you didn't. you then yet again claimed there is one god.

    so you are claiming something you literally said you didn't know. that doesn't logically follow

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    you said there is one god. i asked how you knew. you said you didn't. you then yet again claimed there is one god.

    so you are claiming something you literally said you didn't know. that doesn't logically follow
    I believe there is only ONE God.

    I never said I "knew", rather I believe it to be true because it makes the most logical sense to me that that is the case.

    Every other possibility when using my limited human ability to conceive things, is illogical.

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    I believe there is only ONE God.

    I never said I "knew", rather I believe it to be true because it makes the most logical sense to me that that is the case.

    Every other possibility when using my limited human ability to conceive things, is illogical.
    oh. saying "i believe" there is one god is very different than outright claiming "there is one god"

    as you have no way of knowing or verifying that, it is faith in absence of evidence or reason. glad we established that

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    oh. saying "i believe" there is one god is very different than outright claiming "there is one god"

    as you have no way of knowing or verifying that, it is faith in absence of evidence or reason. glad we established that

    You might say it that way, not me.

    I said it the way I wanted to say it though because I think it conveys a more positive frame of reference than the way you say it because IMHO yours conveys a more negative viewpoint.

    Whether they both state the same things but just differences due to semantics or whatnot, is up for debate.

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    You might say it that way, not me.

    I said it the way I wanted to say it though because I think it conveys a more positive frame of reference than the way you say it because IMHO yours conveys a more negative viewpoint.

    Whether they both state the same things but just differences due to semantics or whatnot, is up for debate.
    you are trying to turn this into a semantics pissing contest.

    you claimed there is 1 god. i asked how you knew. you said you didnt know. you then AGAIN said there is one god.

    a belief is different than a claim

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    you are trying to turn this into a semantics pissing contest.

    you claimed there is 1 god. i asked how you knew. you said you didnt know. you then AGAIN said there is one god.

    a belief is different than a claim
    I believe it is so and have no evidence to the contrary.

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    I believe it is so and have no evidence to the contrary.
    thank you for making the case for pastafarianism

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    thank you for making the case for pastafarianism
    You are welcome, and forgiven.

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    You are welcome, and forgiven.
    i didnt apologize

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    You don't need to.

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    And your position and status in society gives you a right to criticize someone you know very little about?

    And another thing, what has the playboy mansion have to do with anything pertinent connected to this subject?

    None. So why even mention it?
    already tired of your shtick old ?

    SBM position (bending over checking assholes) and status (fat mexican correctional officer) give him the right to critize my attention whoring and stating I'm a got ?

    hypocrite

    I mention it on a thread as serious as his invitation to playboy mansion... see the link now ?

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    The Debate Ended years ago with introduction of DNA codes that mathematically cant be decoded by science ....why are you all still disagreeing on this subject?



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    mouse maybe you should post more close-up pictures of the human eye to further make your point

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    Creationist museum: Our fraudulent ‘Ica Stones’ prove man rode on triceratops dinosaurs

    A group of creationists in the Boise, Idaho area are seeking funds to build The Northwest Science Museum, which they claim will urge visitors to “think critically” about the Earth’s natural history, Boise State Public Radio (BSBP) reports.

    Geologist Doug Bennett told BSPR that the “first thing” visitors will see when they walk up to the Science Museum is “a full scale replica of Noah’s Ark.” In a promotional video, he further explains that what will set this Science Museum apart is “that it will explain both the Biblical and naturalistic points of view side-by-side.”


    “This way,” he continues, “visitors can see both views and determine for themselves which theory makes the most sense, and which theory matches the evidence we see in the world around us.”


    “We want to bring that out and say, ‘Ok, people. Let’s make your choice here.’ Don’t just believe because you’re being told that. Think for yourself. Use critical thinking and think, does this make sense?” Bennett says. “Or is it better to believe what the Bible says — that God created all things.”

    Stan Lutz, a field paleontologist, adds “that our goal here is present the true science that has been hidden from the public. We have artifacts that even confound the most ardent evolutionists,” most notably the so-called “Ica stones,” which as Lutz explains in another video, proves that humans and dinosaurs interacted.


    Lutz claims the stones are less than 6,000 years old, which to his mind, proves that humans and dinosaurs coexisted.

    “After all,” he says, “if they didn’t know what dinosaurs looked like, how can they carve them in these stones so intricately?”


    The Ica Stones are a favorite artifact of many conspiracy theorists, even though a 1977 Nova do entary revealed that they were the creation of the man who allegedly found them, Dr. Javier Cabrera, who also confessed to having sculpted them.


    This finding has not deterred creationist, however, who insist that just because “there are some fake Ica Stones out there…and frauds have been made, doesn’t mean the real ones have been discredited.”


    In both videos, Lutz claims the Northwest Science Museum contains “genuine” Ica Stones. “This stone right here, you can see there’s a man on it riding on a triceratops dinosaur,” he says in one of the videos. We have rocks showing at least 14 species of dinosaur that are all accurately drawn.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/c...e+Raw+Story%29

    you Bible-thumping creationist/IDers are so ING STUPID





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