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That TP wasn't able to make a shot and had to pass the ball? 5 seconds left, of course he was going to pass the ball?What does this play in the clutch for the win say about Kawhi and Tony's relationship as teammates ?
omg high 5s
That changes everything
That TP wasn't able to make a shot and had to pass the ball? 5 seconds left, of course he was going to pass the ball?What does this play in the clutch for the win say about Kawhi and Tony's relationship as teammates ?
you are better than that tbhlol only posting GIF of Tony passing the ball
Where did you find them TBH ?
You guys seem to forget al those plays where his teammates are wide open for 3 in the corners, but Tony decides to go to the basket anyway, gets his ass grounded to the floor, and from there he can see the other team scoring on the break
OP is using one pic to wonder what this pic is telling us about their relationship... which is obviously a big gotry and stupidity... as I demonstrated also using a pic or a random gif
same for your post you seem to forget all those plays where his teammates are wide open for 3 because attention he is getting and Tony decides to assist the open 3 guy... a dude like Matt has a career spoon fed by Parker drive to the rim...
I wish parker haters like manu haters could be a bit more subtil and clever with their trolling tbh
You always have to pay attention to who has the ball, and TP always has the ball 16 seconds out of 24 in every play.
Brazil on a rant
Don't worry this is the same guy that thinks Kawhi has passed Manu and TP
lol getting trolled and doesn't afraid of nothing
lol no he's not
Kawiso had plenty of touches yesterday. I hope that particular type of offense doesn't become the norm. Spurs don't need a poor man's Melo (offensively) out there.
Look at how Tony is only really giving a hlaf hug. You can tell in his facial expression that he isn't fully into it. Judging by Kawhi's half chub, he is going full bro on Tony.What does this picture say about Kawhi and Tony's relationship as teammates ?
As long as we are winning i have no beefs, i think they are cool with each other tbh
I don't give a about the relationship between NBA players. The game is a business, we're Spurs fans and we can think is about family but we're wrong.
I don't expect that Tony'll be Kawhi's mentor or something like that, I just hope he can recognize a good matchup for Leonard and pass him the ball when he's wide open.
That's all I hope for.
Leonard can become an amazing player, he has incredible O/D skills and the desire to be a great...and sometimes needs the ball in his hands to be aggressive, at least needs the ball when a small guard defending him or when he's open.
The images/screenshots/etc don't tell the whole story but could show some players/coaches/teams tendencies.
Regular season 2013/14
Playoffs 2014
IMO there are more than only one reason why these things happen. Tony is great, the best in many areas of the games, but in the strict sense of the playmaker word he doesn't reach Nash or Stockton level, he doesn't have their court vision or their passing skills.
On the other hand, Pop doesn't find the way to adapt his system and involve Kawhi on the offense. (or just he doesn't want)
Talking about coincidences, Leonard scored +20 in games Parker was injured or tired. It may be a sign of the lack of new-gun inclusion into the system.
sure Diego
BTW funny to see one of the best team ever at sharing the ball, finding open teammates and being a well oiled offensive machine with a ballhog PG 30 min per game on the floor having the ball 16 seconds out of 24 that does not pass to his teammates whether Manu or Kawhi...
mid season form tbh
like I'm not aware of the trolling
just think this troll is quite poor
For the number of pics showing TP not recognizing a missmatch, I can find the same number of him doing it well
He is obviously not perfect and has his flaws, I just laugh at the idea of dude does not want to pass to Kawhi... never ending story... it started with Manu now Kawhi tomorrow Mills or Green
For the rest, as Parker is/was the primary offense weapon quite normal others score more when he is out so yeah no ... that's an astonishing coincidence
Explore new offensive variations in preseason games isn't a big problem.
I know, we saw Tony was going iso alot in last playoffs and the Spurs didn't have success in many of those iso situations, but I don't worry about Kawhi or another player iso because the Spurs played great ball movement last finals, with a more pass oriented offense.
I just hope that wasn't the direct results of Parker's injuries and the Spurs can continue playing in that way even with Tony healthy or playing at his peak.
I don't have any problem with Tony as the first offensive option, but if Pop wants to develop Leonard and take his game to an All-Star level, he needs add Kawhi into the offensive system.
I mean, I don't have problem if Tony scores 28 points but I want Leonard scores 18 in the same game, because he can be that 18-8 guy.
Brazil can also cherry pick Parker passes to Leonard tbh. Basically, if you base conclusions on screenshots, you're not worth the argument.I don't give a about the relationship between NBA players. The game is a business, we're Spurs fans and we can think is about family but we're wrong.
I don't expect that Tony'll be Kawhi's mentor or something like that, I just hope he can recognize a good matchup for Leonard and pass him the ball when he's wide open.
That's all I hope for.
Leonard can become an amazing player, he has incredible O/D skills and the desire to be a great...and sometimes needs the ball in his hands to be aggressive, at least needs the ball when a small guard defending him or when he's open.
The images/screenshots/etc don't tell the whole story but could show some players/coaches/teams tendencies.
Regular season 2013/14
Playoffs 2014
IMO there are more than only one reason why these things happen. Tony is great, the best in many areas of the games, but in the strict sense of the playmaker word he doesn't reach Nash or Stockton level, he doesn't have their court vision or their passing skills.
On the other hand, Pop doesn't find the way to adapt his system and involve Kawhi on the offense. (or just he doesn't want)
Talking about coincidences, Leonard scored +20 in games Parker was injured or tired. It may be a sign of the lack of new-gun inclusion into the system.
That they're lovers
Last edited by BatManu20; 10-09-2014 at 01:03 PM.
I think we all agree with this except I don't think Leonard has to score 18 like Parker does not need to score 28. The key point is to establish the good balance among the team to win games. Only that matters: win games, players value more team wins than personnal stats, spurs fans should do the same.
Tony just doesn't have the court vision, tbh... It's not personal or anything like that. Every player has positives and negatives in their game, that doesn't mean anything really, they just prefer to go with their strengths and Tony is a great finisher around the basket and supremely confident in his floater. His court vision isn't all that great, his glass shard dodging skills might suck, and you might need to inspect your wife's cellphone when he's around, but he consistently goes to his strengths and gets it done, so it's a lot easier to overlook plays like in the OP, IMO
Shades of Kobe Leonard, tbh... I suspect Pop will let him test the waters early, at least until he signs an extension...
No, it's not a big deal. But if that's what Leonard wants from the Spurs in order to stay around long term, he can go on to another team. No way anyone wins consistently with him playing that way.
Parker ISOs are much better than Leonard's, since Parker's goal is to penetrate, which almost has to force a rotation. Kawhi should be able to become a great post player, but that won't force the same type of consistent movement of the defense.I know, we saw Tony was going iso alot in last playoffs and the Spurs didn't have success in many of those iso situations, but I don't worry about Kawhi or another player iso because the Spurs played great ball movement last finals, with a more pass oriented offense.
I agree that Parker taking a back seat last year may have helped the Spurs discover their ball-movement. But MVParker is/was a better scorer than Kawhi can every hope to be. I see nothing wrong with mixing in Parker ISOs into the offense. I also don't see a problem with giving Leonard ISOs once he learns how to handle them. He won't consistently have the same hot-shooting streak he had the Finals.I just hope that wasn't the direct results of Parker's injuries and the Spurs can continue playing in that way even with Tony healthy or playing at his peak.
I want Leonard to go after mismatches. But I'm really hoping he passes a lot more in games that matter. He was shooting out of his mind during the Finals and scrimmage, and some of those shots he made were ones he shouldn't have taken under normal cir stances.
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