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    Have I? My question is simple and still hasn't been answered. If there is no intelligence behind life then why aren't scientist creating humans out of non life? According to evolution non life gave "birth" to life eventually leading to humans. Humans who are intelligent.
    But the argument is that there's no intelligence behind ANY of the natural phenomena. It's pretty arguable that life isn't really anymore special than gravity or even dust. Physically speaking, we have no problem making non-living material into parts of our bodies and vice-versa. Life's just something that certain bits of matter do periodically.

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    Have I? My question is simple and still hasn't been answered. If there is no intelligence behind life then why aren't scientist creating humans out of non life? According to evolution non life gave "birth" to life eventually leading to humans. Humans who are intelligent.
    , we just figured out what amino acids are 200 years ago.

    Why isn't God creating life out of nothing right now? Dude already knows how to do it after all.

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    Have I? My question is simple and still hasn't been answered. If there is no intelligence behind life then why aren't scientist creating humans out of non life? According to evolution non life gave "birth" to life eventually leading to humans. Humans who are intelligent.
    i think you are using the term "intelligence" too loosely. dogs are certainly intelligent life. are you suggesting dogs put on labcoats and start trying to create new life?

    i know i'm being ridiculous, but then what's your cutoff for intelligence? humans only? and what age of humans? cavemen? ancients that thought the earth was flat, etc?

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    But the argument is that there's no intelligence behind ANY of the natural phenomena. It's pretty arguable that life isn't really anymore special than gravity or even dust. Physically speaking, we have no problem making non-living material into parts of our bodies and vice-versa. Life's just something that certain bits of matter do periodically.
    Not sure if I believe that. And man came from dust remember. In yo face Chinook. JK. I appreciate your input and viewpoints. Though I really have no idea how to respond to them since I do believe life is something special and not naturally occurring without something behind it I guess you could say.

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    i think you are using the term "intelligence" too loosely. dogs are certainly intelligent life. are you suggesting dogs put on labcoats and start trying to create new life?
    Not really but sure why not. I mean life doesn't need intelligence according to scientist. So if they leave a dog with the basic necessities to create life in a lab I'm sure they could do it.

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    Not really but sure why not. I mean life doesn't need intelligence according to scientist. So if they leave a dog with the basic necessities to create life in a lab I'm sure they could do it.
    dogs can make life by ing

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    , we just figured out what amino acids are 200 years ago.

    Why isn't God creating life out of nothing right now? Dude already knows how to do it after all.
    He gave humans the ability to do so by intercourse. Lol.

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    Not really but sure why not. I mean life doesn't need intelligence according to scientist. So if they leave a dog with the basic necessities to create life in a lab I'm sure they could do it.
    That would be intelligent design then.

    Which side of the argument are you on again?

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    dogs can make life by ing
    I know that.

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    That would be intelligent design then.

    Which side of the argument are you on again?
    So you're saying a dog could do it?

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    He gave humans the ability to do so by intercourse. Lol.
    But why isn't he doing all the stuff that has been attributed to him?

    Creating life out of nothing. Burning bushes. Parting seas, etc.

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    So you're saying a dog could do it?
    No, I am saying you are arguing against intelligent design.

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    But why isn't he doing all the stuff that has been attributed to him?

    Creating life out of nothing. Burning bushes. Parting seas, etc.
    Does he need to? I don't think it's really of any importance. Why would he need to do those things now?

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    Simulation theory maaaaan

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    Does he need to? I don't think it's really of any importance. Why would he need to do those things now?
    Why would he not?

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    Does he need to? I don't think it's really of any importance. Why would he need to do those things now?
    why did he ever?

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    Why would he? I believe he will do many things soon though.

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    Why would he? I believe he will do many things soon though.
    Why hasn't he? Why wouldn't he? What's the hold up?

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    This guy landing Leah Remini on King of Queens requires more faith/belief/suspension of doubt than God or evolution, tbh...

    I also know it's not that dude, but, , the resemblance is uncanny.

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    Why hasn't he? Why wouldn't he? What's the hold up?
    Giving the people a chance to repent and save themselves.

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    We're all the re used materials of ancient dead stars. It's really just that simple. All the evidence corroborates this line of thinking. We ARE still special though, in my opinion, as I feel the "Great Filter" as it is called were actually multiple filters which we have already passed: 1) abiogeneis, combined with 2) nature scripting a sufficiently advanced language, in our case RNA into DNA, as well as 3) the jump from prokaryotes to eukaryotes.

    Unfortunately, I do feel there is/was intelligent life in the universe's existence that generated and evolved in a much more hostile planetary environment (IE on a planet only barely in the "life zone" as we know it) and thus much more naturally adapted to surviving and killing than even our most ferocious animals, tigers or alligators for instance. I just hope if there are real "Aliens" they are in another galaxy far far away

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    This guy landing Leah Remini on King of Queens requires more faith/belief/suspension of doubt than God or evolution, tbh...

    I also know it's not that dude, but, , the resemblance is uncanny.
    He does look like Doug.

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    We're all the re used materials of ancient dead stars. It's really just that simple. All the evidence corroborates this line of thinking. We ARE still special though, in my opinion, as I feel the "Great Filter" as it is called were actually multiple filters which we have already passed: 1) abiogeneis, combined with 2) nature scripting a sufficiently advanced language, in our case RNA into DNA, as well as 3) the jump from prokaryotes to eukaryotes.

    Unfortunately, I do feel there is/was intelligent life in the universe's existence that generated and evolved in a much more hostile planetary environment (IE on a planet only barely in the "life zone" as we know it) and thus much more naturally adapted to killing than even our most ferocious animals, tigers or alligators for instance. I just hope if there are real "Aliens" they are in another galaxy far far away
    That's some interesting .

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    Giving the people a chance to repent and save themselves.
    When will they be done with that?

    What is the stopping point?

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