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    how good would he have been in the NBA if he had your footspeed?
    Still great

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    Only Robert Horry could stop him tbh


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    Sure because all he did was running non stop
    And all shaq did was bowl people over?

    Shaq's footwork in the post was great. He was one of the best passing big, he is extremely quick and agile, especially for a big man.

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    Tbf, he relied on his strength much more than Isiah relied on his speed.

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    Tbf, he relied on his strength much more than Isiah relied on his speed.
    No issues with that. But fact remains that shaq dominated the league for a few years like no other did.

    Take away Shaq's strength, he'd still be an all str level big.

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    thats a really weird qualifier to set
    Not if you watched the game. That was one of the single greatest performances ever in basketball. Isiah was really ing good, arguably top 15.

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    No issues with that. But fact remains that shaq dominated the league for a few years like no other did.

    Take away Shaq's strength, he'd still be an all str level big.
    My god, your basketball opinions are breathtakingly stupid.

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    My god, your basketball opinions are breathtakingly stupid.
    Because?

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    Not if you watched the game. That was one of the single greatest performances ever in basketball. Isiah was really ing good, arguably top 15.
    My god, your basketball opinions are breathtakingly stupid.

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    And all shaq did was bowl people over?

    Shaq's footwork in the post was great. He was one of the best passing big, he is extremely quick and agile, especially for a big man.
    what? i agree with the rest you've said so far, but that

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    what? i agree with the rest you've said so far, but that
    Shaq was quick back in the day, especially when he was with Orlando.

    There has been some really big and strong guys in the NBA, and they have never capitalized like Shaq did (Gilmore was strong as an Ox), but the thing that really sets Shaq apart was how quick and athletic he was, even with that strength.

    At the end of his career (Suns and Celtics), Shaq was still strong, but he wasn't nearly as good because he wasn't as quick as before.

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    Not if you watched the game. That was one of the single greatest performances ever in basketball. Isiah was really ing good, arguably top 15.
    My god, your basketball opinions are breathtakingly stupid.
    Didn't even get the first quote. So you are saying it was good to set a player's legacy based on one single game? I don't agree with that at all, and that to be breathtakingly stupid.

    Isiah is arguably top 15 ever not because of that quarter, or that 16 points in 90 seconds game, it was his overall body of work, acting as a leader to two straight championships on a game altering defensive Pistons team, and being the main offensive force on a largely defensive team.

    Lebron didn't get to top 15 ever status because of that 25 straight points game, he got there with his dominance over a period of time.


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    Shaq was quick back in the day, especially when he was with Orlando.

    There has been some really big and strong guys in the NBA, and they have never capitalized like Shaq did (Gilmore was strong as an Ox), but the thing that really sets Shaq apart was how quick and athletic he was, even with that strength.

    At the end of his career (Suns and Celtics), Shaq was still strong, but he wasn't nearly as good because he wasn't as quick as before.
    it's the agile part that is puzzling.. i mean a guy that always comes last on the other side of the court and when he comes is like a truck on a 60's Vespa is not what i call agile .. Also he was fairly questionable on the defensive end, mostly because he was not really agile.

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    It seems people are talking about Shaq of the phoenix suns or cavaliers tbh

    Shaq was not the first to be a force of the nature. Of course his size / bulk are freak but saying that's the only reason of his dominance is dumb. Muresan was taller and bigger and yet was one of the worst nba player ever. You need motricity, footwork, yes agility to drive dat kind of engine.

    I do like Isiah, nothing wrong putting him in top 15 but I take Shaq over him in a heartbeat.

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    it's the agile part that is puzzling.. i mean a guy that always comes last on the other side of the court and when he comes is like a truck on a 60's Vespa is not what i call agile .. Also he was fairly questionable on the defensive end, mostly because he was not really agile.
    You must not have seen him in his physical peak. Him coming down the court late and his defense is more due to his effort and conditioning than anything else. Back in the Orlando days and the Lakers three peat days, Shaq was agile. Him rolling for alley-oops was really an amazing sight.

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    Not if you watched the game. That was one of the single greatest performances ever in basketball. Isiah was really ing good, arguably top 15.
    that's not the point. but thats like saying if u never scored 62 points in 3 quarters, ur not better than kobe

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    that's not the point. but thats like saying if u never scored 62 points in 3 quarters, ur not better than kobe
    Kirby s on MJ, tbh

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    Shaq taking 10 hours to get in the paint and then pushing off his opponenent for the dunk

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    Shaq taking 10 hours to get in the paint
    coasting. and btw there's no push, look at the play. keeps his hands to himself

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    It's subtle

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    kirby fans only compared him to jordan wizards

    now lebron fans will compared the 48.5m kirby ...nothing to see here

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    People forget about these ....



    And that was just his rookie year.

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    Dunkdunkdunkdunkderp

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