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    Will you accept that WMD's were in Iraq now?
    I never said they weren't. That was reported as far back as 2004, but not even Bushy pimped it as justification of his harebrained invasion.

    Guess you just missed the past decade.

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    I never said they weren't. That was reported as far back as 2004, but not even Bushy pimped it as justification of his harebrained invasion.

    Guess you just missed the past decade.
    That is patently false.

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    According to U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, the coalition mission was "to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people."[22]

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    That is patently false.
    Why are you posting a quote from a year before they found the first chemical s s?

    Man, you really have checked out for a decade.

    lol wikipedai research

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    Why are you posting a quote from a year before they found the first chemical s s?

    Man, you really have checked out for a decade.

    lol wikipedai research
    Huh? You need to get better at this.

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    Huh? You need to get better at this.
    The first chemical s s were discovered in 2004.

    Bush did not say those were the WMD they were looking for.

    Do you understand now?

    What does wikipedia tell you to say?

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    The first chemical s s were discovered in 2004.

    Bush did not say those were the WMD they were looking for.

    Do you understand now?

    What does wikipedia tell you to say?
    o? They just found some more. What about this escapes you?

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    o? They just found some more. What about this escapes you?
    Nope, the article clearly stated that the weapons had been discovered in the period from 2004-2011 and that they were all pre 1991 weapons, many of which the west helped supply in one way or another.

    lol "just found"

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    ....the main reason we went into Iraq, at the time, was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't
    And of course they found more after that.

    Not a peep from Bushy.

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    I am too late to the LOL @ OP party?

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    The first chemical s s were discovered in 2004.
    were they supposed to find them BEFORE going in? i dont get it

    Bush did not say those were the WMD they were looking for.
    which ones DID he say they were looking for? be specific.

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    Nope, the article clearly stated that the weapons had been discovered in the period from 2004-2011 and that they were all pre 1991 weapons, many of which the west helped supply in one way or another.

    lol "just found"
    You make no sense.

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    were they supposed to find them BEFORE going in? i dont get it
    Bush didn't say those were the ones he said were there before the invasion.


    which ones DID he say they were looking for? be specific.
    Ones that we didn't help him make before 1991, which were the only ones we found. Obviously there was no reason to trumpet their discovery as prewar reports already said they were there.

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    Bush didn't say those were the ones he said were there before the invasion.


    Ones that we didn't help him make before 1991, which were the only ones we found. Obviously there was no reason to trumpet their discovery as prewar reports already said they were there.
    Bull . He said the goal was to rid them of WMD's. There was no distinction of when they were made.

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    You make no sense.
    I can't understand for you.

    Chemical weapons were found in Iraq and made public as early as 2004.

    Not once did Bush say those chemical weapons that were found and made public were the weapons pver which the war was fought.

    I can't dumb this down for you any more than that.

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    Bush didn't say those were the ones he said were there before the invasion.


    Ones that we didn't help him make before 1991, which were the only ones we found. Obviously there was no reason to trumpet their discovery as prewar reports already said they were there.
    don't think that's accurate. they knew Iraq had a bunch stockpiled since the 80's, and after the gulf war the UN went in and began seizing/destroying WMD's. regardless of who helped build what when, they had they weren't supposed to have anymore, and the UN was cleaning them out. as we all know Saddam stopped cooperating with the UN, kicked all the inspectors out, and then essentially said "i dont have any more, trust me, but you can't come in and look." the US knew otherwise, and this was confirmed apparently going back to 2004

    did bush specifically say we were looking for "WMD's that we didn't help make before 1991"?

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    Bull . He said the goal was to rid them of WMD's. There was no distinction of when they were made.
    Again, straight from Bushy:
    ....the main reason we went into Iraq, at the time, was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't
    And of course they found more after that.

    Not a peep from Bushy.

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    don't think that's accurate. they knew Iraq had a bunch stockpiled since the 80's, and after the gulf war the UN went in and began seizing/destroying WMD's. regardless of who helped build what when, they had they weren't supposed to have anymore, and the UN was cleaning them out. as we all know Saddam stopped cooperating with the UN, kicked all the inspectors out, and then essentially said "i dont have any more, trust me, but you can't come in and look." the US knew otherwise, and this was confirmed apparently going back to 2004

    did bush specifically say we were looking for "WMD's that we didn't help make before 1991"?
    See above.

    Also
    After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Mr. Bush insisted that Mr. Hussein was hiding an active weapons of mass destruction program, in defiance of international will and at the world’s risk. United Nations inspectors said they could not find evidence for these claims.
    Then, during the long occupation, American troops began encountering old chemical munitions in hidden caches and roadside bombs. Typically 155-millimeter artillery s s or 122-millimeter rockets, they were remnants of an arms program Iraq had rushed into production in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war.
    All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mus agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them.
    In case after case, participants said, analysis of these warheads and s s reaffirmed intelligence failures. First, the American government did not find what it had been looking for at the war’s outset, then it failed to prepare its troops and medical corps for the aged weapons it did find.

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    good article, tbh

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    This has been played out several times in the past, like when Santorum threw his Hail Mary to try to save his senate campaign in 06.

    Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan on Wednesday pointed to a newly declassified report that says coalition forces have found 500 munitions in Iraq that contained degraded sarin or mus nerve agents.
    They cited the report in an attempt to counter criticism by Democrats who say the decision to go to war was a mistake.
    But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.
    Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and "not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time."
    The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue.
    "We were able to determine that [the missile] is, in fact, degraded and ... is consistent with what we would expect from finding a munition that was dated back to pre-Gulf War," an intelligence official told NBC.
    Bush's Pentagon officials, whom neither Bush nor anyone else in the administration contradicted.

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    This has been played out several times in the past, like when Santorum threw his Hail Mary to try to save his senate campaign in 06.

    Bush's Pentagon officials, whom neither Bush nor anyone else in the administration contradicted.
    yeah, apparently this new finding has caused a lot of hoopla, about how they were told to keep quiet about what they found. just seemed really eerie. but yeah, once bush said he was wrong, it was over

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    Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

    WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.

    http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=15918



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    Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says

    WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.

    http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=15918
    but the war-criminal Repugs didn't trumpet the find as vindication, because these weren't the WMD the Repugs LIED about to invade Iraq-for-oil.

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    but the war-criminal Repugs didn't trumpet the find as vindication, because these weren't the WMD the Repugs LIED about to invade Iraq-for-oil.
    2 hours and no response so you quote yourself, lol loser.

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    2 hours and no response so you quote yourself, lol loser.
    a yourself suggestion: GFY

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