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    Subsidies should be eliminated.
    even for BigCarbon?

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    even for BigCarbon?
    If they exist, yes!

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    If they exist, yes!
    You Lie, they exist, to enrich the biggest, most profitable industry on the planet.

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    You Lie, they exist, to enrich the biggest, most profitable industry on the planet.
    Why do you continue to make yourself irrelevant?

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    I love big carbon. I'm investing in LNG terminals.

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    I love big carbon. I'm investing in LNG terminals.
    A very good bet, IMO. Europe will be willing to pay a good premium for energy security, after the ruskies shut them down this winter.

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    for those that bought a system

    how big is ur system kw?

    how much does it generate per day? enough for ur needs?


    ps. i just bought a house...thinkn of installing a system also...looks cheap since i spend about 1600 per year on electricity bills...

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    for those that bought a system

    how big is ur system kw?

    how much does it generate per day? enough for ur needs?


    ps. i just bought a house...thinkn of installing a system also...looks cheap since i spend about 1600 per year on electricity bills...
    City Public Service energy bills here in SA have a bar graph of energy consumption in KWH per month, for previous 12 months.

    http://www.wholesalesolar.com/StartH...alculator.html

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    A very good bet, IMO. Europe will be willing to pay a good premium for energy security, after the ruskies shut them down this winter.
    Meh...the whole world is converting to NG power plants.

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    for those that bought a system

    how big is ur system kw?

    how much does it generate per day? enough for ur needs?


    ps. i just bought a house...thinkn of installing a system also...looks cheap since i spend about 1600 per year on electricity bills...
    Mine is a 4KW system and saves about $100 a month on utility bills.

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    Meh...the whole world is converting to NG power plants.
    Eyup.

    There was an interesting article in Bloomberg I think, that was talking about what the Israelis were doing with theirs. They built four desalinization plants, and are now in the process of exporting water to their neighbors.

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    http://d8dialogues.blogspot.com/2014...sta-ridge.html

    TPR had quite long program on the Vista Ridge project.

    http://tpr.org/search/google/vista%20ridge?query=vista%20ridge&cx=0102513664402 57945544%3Aaa_s0mku2mm&cof=FORID%3A11&sitesearch=


    SAWS looks at ocean desal for 2040-2070. yeah, it's gotta be pumped up 700 ft from the Gulf, but, what the , it's an infinite supply. Power the desal and pumping with solar and wind.




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    Eyup.

    There was an interesting article in Bloomberg I think, that was talking about what the Israelis were doing with theirs. They built four desalinization plants, and are now in the process of exporting water to their neighbors.
    all that excess salt must go somewhere, lol flying over palestine with chemtrails?

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    all that excess salt must go somewhere, lol flying over palestine with chemtrails?

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    Props man. That was good funny.

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    Australia’s Clean Energy Investment Plummets Below Algeria, Myanmar, Thailand, And Uruguay

    Australia’s investment in clean energy projects has slumped 70 percent since 2013, according to a new report by Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF). This means the country has slipped from the world’s 11th largest investor in clean energy to the 31st — below Algeria, Myanmar, Thailand, and Uruguay. This is the latest result of Liberal Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s broad attack on the country’s previously ambitious clean energy and climate goals. Abbott came into power in September 2013 and in July, Australia became the first country to repeal its carbon price, despite the fact that it was successfully working to cut carbon emissions.

    Kobad Bhavnagri, an analyst at BNEF, told the Guardian Australia that the country’s renewable energy sector is “in the doldrums” and that “the government’s position has caused this.”

    Australia’s government “has had some pretty strong anti-renewables rhetoric, particularly anti-wind, and wants to close certain clean energy programs,” Bhavnagri said. “The review has been particularly protracted. The industry was fearful the recommendations would be extreme and they were. It has been shattering.”


    Bhavnagri is referring to the government’s review of the country’s Renewable Energy Target, which mandates that 41,000 gigawatt hours of Australia’s energy comes from renewable sources by 2020. The government has said it will review, and possibly scrap, the target in the coming months.


    Under Abbott’s lead, just $193 million was invested in new large-scale clean energy projects in the third quarter of 2014, according to BNEF, bringing year-to-date investment to $238 million. By comparison, Canada has invested $3.1 billion in large clean energy projects so far this year.


    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ergy-plummets/

    Thanks, BigCarbon-sucking Conservatives!



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    Cheap Solar Power Just Became An Employee Benefit For More Than 100,000 People

    On Wednesday, three major companies — Cisco Systems, 3M, and Kimberly-Clark — announced they will now give employees a deeply discounted way of buying or leasing solar panels for their homes.

    Called the Solar Community Initiative, the program promises a flat rate that is on average 35 percent lower than the national average and roughly 50 percent less expensive than average electric utility rates. According to the announcement, the offer will start as a benefit to more than 100,000 employees. If one percent choose to power their homes with solar, more than 74,500 metric tons of carbon emissions would be avoided each year.

    Offered through Geostellar, a cost comparison site for solar panels, the program will also include options for employees’ friends and families in the United States and parts of Canada. The initiative was conceived and facilitated by the World Wildlife Fund.


    “This takes the bulk purchase model from individual neighborhoods and organizations to a national scale,” Keya Chatterjee, senior director of renewable energy at WWF, said in a statement. “A coast-to-coast, low, flat rate helps mitigate two major barriers of solar adoption — complexity and price.”


    The companies will offer a human resources intranet site that will provide a solar discount code and link them to Geostellar where online tools will help the employees determine their property’s solar potential.


    homeowners paying an average of $147 a month for electricity would instead pay an average of $97 a month over 12 years if they financed the entire system, after which the payments would go to zero. The average base cost of a system will be $3 per watt, which is around 17 percent lower than Geostellar’s regular price and almost 34 percent lower than the average cost in the United States last year of $4.53, according to
    the New York Times.


    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...te+Progress%29



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    Big utilities pushing into booming home solar market

    For years, the utilities responsible for providing electricity to the nation have treated residential solar systems as a threat. Now, they want a piece of the action, and they are having to fight for the chance.
    If utilities embrace home solar, their deep pockets and access to customers could transform what has been a fast-growing, but niche industry. Solar powers only half a million U.S. homes and businesses, according to solar market research firm GTM Research.

    But utility-owned rooftop systems represent a change the solar installation companies who dominate the market don't want, and whether the two sides can compromise may determine if residential solar truly goes mainstream.


    In Arizona, the state's largest utility has proposed putting solar panels on 3,000 customers' homes, promising a $30 monthly break on their power bills. In New York, regulators are weighing allowing utilities to get into the solar leasing business to meet the state's aggressive plan to incorporate more decentralized, renewable power onto the grid.


    That's a change from the industry's recent skepticism of residential solar. Last year, for example, the Edison Electric Ins ute, a utility trade group, in a report described rooftop solar as a "disruptive challenge" that could squeeze revenue and profits as customers defected, leaving companies forced to maintain grids that serve all.


    Residential solar grew 45 percent in the second quarter from the previous year and installations are expected to exceed 1 gigawatt this year, or about enough for 165,000 homes, according to GTM Research. That growth has been underpinned by government subsidies and falling equipment costs that have allowed startups to underprice utilities.


    No-money-down solar leases also have made rooftop systems much more financially accessible, boosting demand.


    IF YOU CAN'T BEAT 'EM...


    Some utilities, like Edison International and NRG, already have entered the rooftop solar market through unregulated divisions, and many utilities have bought huge solar arrays.


    But a regulated utility rolling out large amounts of rooftop solar is a new idea.

    "Are they actually trying to deploy lots of rooftop solar or are they just trying to kill off the only compe ion they've ever had?"

    "Safeguards against utilities squeezing out compe ion are important,"


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...e=domesticNews



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    And boutons thinks big corp is only our for the profits.

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    And boutons thinks big corp is only our for the profits.
    you're SO ING STUPID

    corps MUST seek profits above all, and here, after the first movers and innovators verified the business, they are also trying, in classic fashion, to weaken, kill the non-utility solar suppliers.
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    You always have a sinister excuse.

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    You always have a sinister excuse.
    with ALL powerful monopolies/cartels, esp the for-profit ones, assume their power is ALWAYS used sinisterly, self-servingly.

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    with ALL powerful monopolies/cartels, esp the for-profit ones, assume their power is ALWAYS used sinisterly, self-servingly.
    So are the politicians you like to suck off.

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    So are the politicians you like to suck off.
    link?

    behold, the WC , slapped.

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