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    FLASHBACK: When Conservative Media Didn't Care Bush's Bird Flu Czar Had No Medical Experience

    apparently, when the president was George Bush, the health fear was the bird flu virus, and Bush's czar had no medical background. Note that prior to becoming the nation's bird flu czar, Bush's point-person served as general counsel for Amtrak.

    In 2004, Bush's bird flu czar was Stewart Simonson. He worked as an assistant secretary of health and human services for public health emergency preparedness. And although he had no medical experience or expertise in public health, he did enjoy a noted career as a Republican political insider.

    As the late Molly Ivins wrote in 2005:

    Simonson's [political] rabbi is former Gov. Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin, who hired him out of law school, took him to Washington as deputy general counsel at Health and Human Services and then got him the job as general counsel of Amtrak.

    CNN reported that year, "HHS officials admit Simonson has no undergraduate or advanced degree in public health."


    When muted questions were raised about the selection, Health and Human Services secretary Thompson defended Simonson, much as the way the White House defends Klain, by stressing the czar's experience within government, his preparedness, and his ability to get things done. During his tenure, there was no indication that Simonson's lack of medical training hindered his ability to serve as Bush's bird flu czar.


    So what was the Fox response when a point-person with no medical experience was tapped by the Bush White House to coordinate the government's dealing with a possible health crisis? Fox's response was radio silence. A search of Fox archives via Nexis produces no criticism of Simonson.


    Granted, Simonson's appointment did not generate the amount of coverage that the recent Klain news has, and the bird flu never claimed a life in the United Sates.

    But if Fox News' dire
    demands that Obama's Ebola czar today must, must, must have a medical background, it stands to reason the same standard would have applied to Bush's pick of Simonson.

    It did not.


    And it wasn't just Fox News. From what I can see, there was very little coverage of Simonson's appointment within the conservative press, and virtually no objections to the fact he had no public health training.

    This, of course, is the same conservative media today that roundly and relentlessly criticizes the Klain appointment.



    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10...care-bu/201229





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    Has anyone else caught an Ebola?

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    Has anyone else caught an Ebola?
    a case in Mali

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    a Docteur Sans Frontieres flown from Guinea to NYC for observation.

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    a Docteur Sans Frontieres flown from Guinea to NYC for observation.
    Sorry B, I meant domestic.

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    the Doc in NYC/Bellevue is a BIG DEAL.

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    the Doc in NYC/Bellevue is a BIG DEAL.
    You want to him dont ya? Its ok to admit it.

    ter McGee

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    the Doc in NYC/Bellevue is a BIG DEAL.
    Less so than the Dallas case tbh.

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    Less so than the Dallas case tbh.
    Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.

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    Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.
    This doctor knew he might have it and took precautions accordingly. All signs indicate his care is much better than the cluster in Texas, so I'm much less worried.

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    This doctor knew he might have it and took precautions accordingly. All signs indicate his care is much better than the cluster in Texas, so I'm much less worried.
    I wasn't worried about the Dallas case. It wasn't that much of a cluster . Yes the hospital missed the initial diagnosis but nothing came of that. The rest was due to ty CDC protocols. Hopefully the CDC has gotten their together. Time will tell.

    What this case immediately reveals is just like with the second nurse the CDC still has ty isolation protocols for healthcare workers who have had direct contact with ebola patients. Seems to me the CDC is relying a lot on luck when recommending these people just monitor their temp while continuing on with their normal activities considering ebola can spread in the exact same manner as influenza, albeit less efficiently.
    Last edited by SnakeBoy; 10-24-2014 at 02:20 AM.

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    I wasn't worried about the Dallas case. It wasn't that much of a cluster . Yes the hospital missed the initial diagnosis but nothing came of that.
    Dude died.

    lol "nothing"

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    Dude died.

    lol "nothing"

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    This doctor knew he might have it and took precautions accordingly. All signs indicate his care is much better than the cluster in Texas, so I'm much less worried.
    he was taking the subway, did not isolate himself at all, in contact with quite few people apparently, went bowling Wed night, then had 103F fever next morning. Obviously for someone coming from direct involvement with Ebola patients in Africa, seems like a total lack of caution, prudence. Now NY is trying track down maybe 100s of people for monitoring.

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    he was taking the subway, did not isolate himself at all, in contact with quite few people apparently, went bowling Wed night, then had 103F fever next morning. Obviously for someone coming from direct involvement with Ebola patients in Africa, seems like a total lack of caution, prudence. Now NY is trying track down maybe 100s of people for monitoring.
    He did exactly what the CDC recommends.

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    Let me know when 50,000 people die in the US.
    despite the huge screw ups...

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    ebola from west africa, a bunch of monkey nations who are colonies of the french gots

    why isnt NGO asking the gots for money, instead chasing uk, us, aus for money...

    this is bs....

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    he was taking the subway, did not isolate himself at all, in contact with quite few people apparently, went bowling Wed night, then had 103F fever next morning. Obviously for someone coming from direct involvement with Ebola patients in Africa, seems like a total lack of caution, prudence. Now NY is trying track down maybe 100s of people for monitoring.
    Or it shows that Ebola isn't that easily spread and the people shouldn't freak out so badly.

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    Or it shows that Ebola isn't that easily spread and the people shouldn't freak out so badly.
    the freakout by media, esp right-wing hate media and ing House Repugs/Issa, is all part of "blame Obama (for everything)" for Ebola.

    "heckuva job, Brownie"

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    lol @ u gots believing ebola is a real disease

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    Sorry B, I meant domestic.
    the Doc in NYC/Bellevue is a BIG DEAL.
    Domestic as in having its origins on US soil. You can hardly count someone who is flown back post haste.

    Anyway, I wonder how many US fatalities there have been?

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    lol @ u gots believing ebola is a real disease
    Jus keepin it real, right bruh?

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    The governors of a number of states, including New York and New Jersey, recently imposed 21-day quarantines on health care workers returning to the United States from regions of the world where they may have cared for patients with Ebola virus disease. We understand their motivation for this policy — to protect the citizens of their states from contracting this often-fatal illness. This approach, however, is not scientifically based, is unfair and unwise, and will impede essential efforts to stop these awful outbreaks of Ebola disease at their source, which is the only satisfactory goal. The governors' action is like driving a carpet tack with a sledgehammer: it gets the job done but overall is more destructive than beneficial.
    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe1413139

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    Kaci gonna sue tomorrow, Repug greasebag LePage will probably sue back, send a SWAT team, tanks, mortars, dogs, to track her down and tie her down.

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