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    I spoke to my parents recently and I stated that I wish they had put all my focus growing up into Math (and down the line Science). Subjects such as History, Philosophy or even English can be rather easily picked up later. I will force my children to focus on Mathematics by hiring tutors. IMO math = $$$. If my child tries creating a clothing line or becoming an Artist, I will slap them in the face.
    u know most jobs relating to maths is outsource to the asian man in asia for cheap labour rates

    did i tell you u got mutts in ur country who would work for anything when theres an oversupply of job seekers with same qualifications...

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    u know most jobs relating to maths is outsource to the asian man in asia for cheap labour rates

    did i tell you u got mutts in ur country who would work for anything when theres an oversupply of job seekers with same qualifications...
    I meant you need to have strong Math fundamentals for STEM degrees. Scientist, engineers, computer etc.

    Even if they decide to go into Business/Accounting, the most difficult courses are Math based.
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    Heh. There are plenty of successful black people who believe in working hard and doing for self but also drop truth bombs on white supremacy and fight to dismantle it. This has been true throughout our history.

    I agree with Chuck on one thing however. This "not black enough" stuff has to stop. However, what Chuck isn't saying is that black people get that from all sides, not just their own.

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    Heh. There are plenty of successful black people who believe in working hard and doing for self but also drop truth bombs on white supremacy and fight to dismantle it. This has been true throughout our history.

    I agree with Chuck on one thing however. This "not black enough" stuff has to stop. However, what Chuck isn't saying is that black people get that from all sides, not just their own.
    I will admit I am white and I just do not see the "white supremacy" you are talking about in this time.... I just don't get it. The most POWERFULL MAN in the WORLD is a black man....

    What is it that I am doing that suppresses what you can do? Where is the college grants for "white" people vs "black" people for instance?

    This is a serious question, I want to know what I, as a white person, can do more to support my black brothers?

    Or is it really just some self-imposed stigma that you are wanting MORE than the "white man" based on what your ancestors went through just because you feel en led?

    The problem is not "being black" enough but the thought that you are an "uncle Tom" that is the issue. Once successful, regardless if your boss is white, it seems to me a successful black man is considered an "uncle Tom". THAT HAS TO STOP!! The issues with the black people among us has nothing to do with outside influence... it is all a part of the culture within the black community and no white person is to blame for it at this point. Black people have been given every opportunity to fix their , be it numerous school grants to welfare to government housing and monetary support. It seems to me it is time to take responsibility and fix your own mess. You have been given the tools.

    , I remember the OJ trial, it didn't matter if he actually did it, black people just wanted to get one over on the justice system. EVERYONE knows he did it but it was perceived and portrayed as a "White vs Black" trial and just about every black person was dancing in the streets when that er walked away from murder, not because he got away with it but because a "black man" finally got "justice" regardless of how twisted and wrong it was. No one talks about that now.
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    Barkley with the typical coon talk, tbh..

    The reason Black people feel hostile towards other Blacks that behave a certain way or aren't "Black enough" is entirely because of systematic White racism and brainwashing, tbh..

    For example, "street cred" and the glorification of rap music and street culture is a White creation..it's a tool used by the White man to keep s in compe ion with each other..

    People that use the "Black on Black" violence/hate card don't understand the issues with public housing and White Flight, tbh..it's all systematic racism that continues to bring s down, and very few White people, along with coons like Barkley, don't understand the intricacies and complicated nature of the problem..

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    Barkley with the typical coon talk, tbh..

    The reason Black people feel hostile towards other Blacks that behave a certain way or aren't "Black enough" is entirely because of systematic White racism and brainwashing, tbh..

    For example, "street cred" and the glorification of rap music and street culture is a White creation..it's a tool used by the White man to keep s in compe ion with each other..

    People that use the "Black on Black" violence/hate card don't understand the issues with public housing and White Flight, tbh..it's all systematic racism that continues to bring s down, and very few White people, along with coons like Barkley, don't understand the intricacies and complicated nature of the problem..
    So essentially Blacks are really mentally weak and easy to manipulate?

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    So essentially Blacks are really mentally weak and easy to manipulate?
    More like Blacks are given limited options in life due to the perpetual cycle of poverty that runs through generations..young Black kids are led to believe that they can become rappers or pro athletes, not realizing that there's virtually no chance at realizing their dream..

    Have you ever looked into the public education system for poor Blacks? It's corrupt and unorganized from the onset, from the moment you begin school at a young age..

    It's easy for Barkley to talk, he won the genetic lottery..White people love you when you're making them money and dancing for them..Barkley doesn't relate to the average Black man, he has never been an average Black man..

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    More like Blacks are given limited options in life due to the perpetual cycle of poverty that runs through generations..young Black kids are led to believe that they can become rappers or pro athletes, not realizing that there's virtually no chance at realizing their dream..

    Have you ever looked into the public education system for poor Blacks? It's corrupt and unorganized from the onset, from the moment you begin school at a young age..

    It's easy for Barkley to talk, he won the genetic lottery..White people love you when you're making them money and dancing for them..Barkley doesn't relate to the average Black man, he has never been an average Black man..
    Great point tbh.

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    More like Blacks are given limited options in life due to the perpetual cycle of poverty that runs through generations..young Black kids are led to believe that they can become rappers or pro athletes, not realizing that there's virtually no chance at realizing their dream..

    Have you ever looked into the public education system for poor Blacks? It's corrupt and unorganized from the onset, from the moment you begin school at a young age..

    It's easy for Barkley to talk, he won the genetic lottery..White people love you when you're making them money and dancing for them..Barkley doesn't relate to the average Black man, he has never been an average Black man..
    Okay this I fully agree with. But I don't see class equality ever being a reality in the USA. It is the land of immigrants and the only way up is thru education, the only way to survive. You did not deny that many blacks do in fact judge those that succeed. My first few years in the USA as an immigrant were spent in all black neighborhoods but thankfully I had parents that for all intents and purposes sacrificed their lives (my mother cleaned homes while my father worked nights & overtime) to make it in the new land and ensure my sister and I received proper educations (by constantly moving/changing schools).

    As the USA demographics continue to change with influx of immigrants, so does any hope of "Socialized America". There are countless examples of the system in the USA not being fair and it is one major reason why I am personally leaving America. I am aware I could be one freak accident/injury from ending up with lifelong debt or worse living on the street.

    EDIT: Now that I think of it, my father admitted his fellow immigrant roommates would smoke marijuana and party while he busted his ass walking miles & riding buses to English classes. Maybe if he didn't have the pressure of moving to a foreign country/continent (with family on the way) he would not have been as driven. Being able to get away from his old friends and comfort zone was a blessing in disguise. I think this is why recent African immigrants to the USA are more successful than many Blacks with generations in the USA. They fall victim to bad comfortable social norms of those around them
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    Are you a general doctor or specialized?
    General tbh

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    My advice to intelligent Black people is to keep working hard and avoid Negroes like the plague. There are so many good Black people out there that never reach their potential in life, not because of Whites, but because of Negroes.

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    More like Blacks are given limited options in life due to the perpetual cycle of poverty that runs through generations..young Black kids are led to believe that they can become rappers or pro athletes, not realizing that there's virtually no chance at realizing their dream..

    Have you ever looked into the public education system for poor Blacks? It's corrupt and unorganized from the onset, from the moment you begin school at a young age..

    It's easy for Barkley to talk, he won the genetic lottery..White people love you when you're making them money and dancing for them..Barkley doesn't relate to the average Black man, he has never been an average Black man..
    This stems from the lack of a father figure. My life would have been an epic fail if my father wasnt a part of it. When I was 10 years old I told him I want to be in the NBA some day. He laughed hysterically and taught me at an early age what a ing moron I was being and that those dreams are re ed. He told me to go after something more realistic like medical school or law school.

    The downfall of the black culture is the lack of a father figure. When this vicious cycle ends, they will finally prevail as a race.

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    More like Blacks are given limited options in life due to the perpetual cycle of poverty that runs through generations..young Black kids are led to believe that they can become rappers or pro athletes, not realizing that there's virtually no chance at realizing their dream..

    Have you ever looked into the public education system for poor Blacks? It's corrupt and unorganized from the onset, from the moment you begin school at a young age..

    It's easy for Barkley to talk, he won the genetic lottery..White people love you when you're making them money and dancing for them..Barkley doesn't relate to the average Black man, he has never been an average Black man..
    they have many opportunities in africa, yet they dont do anything

    so whats teh difference if you take them out of that hole and put them into america or any develop country run by the white man? they still thug living it up

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    My advice to intelligent Black people is to keep working hard and avoid Negroes like the plague. There are so many good Black people out there that never reach their potential in life, not because of Whites, but because of Negroes.
    every ethnic minority group has that same wall...a minority within the majority who gives themselves a bad name that it effects the majority to be employ due to the stigma from the bad eggs

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    I will admit I am white and I just do not see the "white supremacy" you are talking about in this time.... I just don't get it. The most POWERFULL MAN in the WORLD is a black man....

    What is it that I am doing that suppresses what you can do? Where is the college grants for "white" people vs "black" people for instance?

    This is a serious question, I want to know what I, as a white person, can do more to support my black brothers?

    Or is it really just some self-imposed stigma that you are wanting MORE than the "white man" based on what your ancestors went through just because you feel en led?

    The problem is not "being black" enough but the thought that you are an "uncle Tom" that is the issue. Once successful, regardless if your boss is white, it seems to me a successful black man is considered an "uncle Tom". THAT HAS TO STOP!! The issues with the black people among us has nothing to do with outside influence... it is all a part of the culture within the black community and no white person is to blame for it at this point. Black people have been given every opportunity to fix their , be it numerous school grants to welfare to government housing and monetary support. It seems to me it is time to take responsibility and fix your own mess. You have been given the tools.

    , I remember the OJ trial, it didn't matter if he actually did it, black people just wanted to get one over on the justice system. EVERYONE knows he did it but it was perceived and portrayed as a "White vs Black" trial and just about every black person was dancing in the streets when that er walked away from murder, not because he got away with it but because a "black man" finally got "justice" regardless of how twisted and wrong it was. No one talks about that now.
    Not true, exaggerate much?
    I was in LA at that time. Funny thing is most blacks think/thought OJ was an "uncle tom". It's been well do ented that simpson gave little back to his community they dont even celebrate him all that much in the town he is from. (HBO did a do entary on this). However you were right that joyous reaction was about more than justice for Simpson there were numerous (and do ented) examples of racisim and corruption in the LAPD. Johnnie C, played the race card and one of the investigating officers was a known as a racist. Add it all up and OJ's trial, the rodney King trial (and many other shaky police race relations) led to that reaction and the riots. Imagine the Ferguson tensions building up for a longer period of time. That was LA in that era and that is what you saw play out in the Simpson aftermath

    And of course he did it. My only issue is I do think the cops may have played loose with evidence and time-lines because they knew his ass was guilty for kiling dat white woman and wanted to his ass pay for it (and rightfully so). I was pretty young so I dont remember all the details of the case ...

    It was karma he got time on a stupid charge but that police department and DA office (vegas?) handled a celebrity case much better than L.A. Also you notice no onewas crying for justice in that case.

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    And I agree with Chuck to a degree. I am Belizean/american but have a (lighter complexion) a mix of spanish, black and probably white somewhere down the line. I was in AP classes in HS, etc. and yes the guys that I hooped with thought me and the other guy on the HS team that were top of our class were uncle tom's and not black enough, they even called him "Carlton" behind his back. His parents had money though mine did not so I was not "hated on" to the same degree. It is tough to be a person of color. But not impossible, my friend is a successful lawyer now. I am pretty sure like myself there have been white people his life that helped in fact, I was going to attend a CC (due to finances) and it was my AP english teacher (a white lady) that pushed me to attend to UCLA. We have good people in this world of all colors and ty ones too. There is a culture of blacks that are like crabs in a bucket. there are also a strong group of professional blacks that uplift each other as well. It's too bad many NBA players know so many of the crab-ass niccas that they have to distance themselves to succeed.

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    but the white man is holding me back

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    I will admit I am white and I just do not see the "white supremacy" you are talking about in this time.... I just don't get it. The most POWERFULL MAN in the WORLD is a black man....

    What is it that I am doing that suppresses what you can do? Where is the college grants for "white" people vs "black" people for instance?

    This is a serious question, I want to know what I, as a white person, can do more to support my black brothers?

    Or is it really just some self-imposed stigma that you are wanting MORE than the "white man" based on what your ancestors went through just because you feel en led?

    The problem is not "being black" enough but the thought that you are an "uncle Tom" that is the issue. Once successful, regardless if your boss is white, it seems to me a successful black man is considered an "uncle Tom". THAT HAS TO STOP!! The issues with the black people among us has nothing to do with outside influence... it is all a part of the culture within the black community and no white person is to blame for it at this point. Black people have been given every opportunity to fix their , be it numerous school grants to welfare to government housing and monetary support. It seems to me it is time to take responsibility and fix your own mess. You have been given the tools.

    , I remember the OJ trial, it didn't matter if he actually did it, black people just wanted to get one over on the justice system. EVERYONE knows he did it but it was perceived and portrayed as a "White vs Black" trial and just about every black person was dancing in the streets when that er walked away from murder, not because he got away with it but because a "black man" finally got "justice" regardless of how twisted and wrong it was. No one talks about that now.
    1. If you don't think racism exists it's gonna be hard for us to communicate. Even if you live and in a bubble and know nothing about history, what's gone down this year alone, yep even with a black president, is enough to prove that. Doesn't matter if you're a black producer in Beverly Hills (who at least had a million resources to get him out of a jam) or a poor black kid in the streets (who doesn't have those resources. Everything form harsher prison sentences to reduced outcomes despite advanced educational degrees proves this.

    2. BUT, what I'm saying has nothing to do with disempowering black folks. Racism exists but that doesn't mean we don't have responsibilities. That doesn't mean we can't achieve. That doesn't mean there aren't certain things we can improve. But just because I've achieved doesn't mean I'm going to act like there aren't trappings in the system that made it harder for others who weren't as lucky to. And it doesn't mean I'm not going to call them out and fight against them when I can.

    3. The whole acting white/uncle tom thing is more complicated than you think. Again, I've gotten from everyone from Chinese and Indian, to black and white, for not acting a certain way. I can't count how many times I've been out at a club and a white dude comes up on me wanting me to rap or dance. Growing up, I was a big nerd and liked to drop big words. The person who gave me the most was a latino dude.

    4. What's your point with the OJ trial? That blacks are biased? Dumb? Look at the history of this country. The reaction is based on that and more complicated that just "celebrating." The OJ trial was one of the most prominent examples of blacks getting a privileged white kind of justice. That can be cathartic, even if the man in question was obviously in the wrong.

    I also find it interesting that white people continue to bring up OJ. It proves that injustice, the kind of injustice that blacks have been facing since this country started, sticks with you. Now imagine OJ just being the tip of the iceberg, of there being so many names out there you don't know all the names.
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    And I agree with Chuck to a degree. I am Belizean/american but have a (lighter complexion) a mix of spanish, black and probably white somewhere down the line. I was in AP classes in HS, etc. and yes the guys that I hooped with thought me and the other guy on the HS team that were top of our class were uncle tom's and not black enough, they even called him "Carlton" behind his back. His parents had money though mine did not so I was not "hated on" to the same degree. It is tough to be a person of color. But not impossible, my friend is a successful lawyer now. I am pretty sure like myself there have been white people his life that helped in fact, I was going to attend a CC (due to finances) and it was my AP english teacher (a white lady) that pushed me to attend to UCLA. We have good people in this world of all colors and ty ones too. There is a culture of blacks that are like crabs in a bucket. there are also a strong group of professional blacks that uplift each other as well. It's too bad many NBA players know so many of the crab-ass niccas that they have to distance themselves to succeed.
    This. The whole not black enough thing blamed on white people is ing stupid. It's a personal problem if they hate seeing others suceed.

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    And complaining about trappings in the system is dumb. Get off your ass and beat adversity.

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    so this is the thread non blacks speak on black issues like they know what its like being black???

    anyways, there are crabs in a bucket in all races. what he's talking about isn't specific to just blacks and isn't the reason blacks are currently in the condition they're in. charles needs to keep his ing mouth shut discussing black issues with non blacks. tap dancin' ass coon.

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    ^there are more crabs in the black bucket.

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    ^there are more crabs in the black bucket.
    and your proof of this is????

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    thats your opinion of a non black looking from the outside in. as wrong as you are, i respectfully have to disagree, doggie.

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