I'd be very happy if he'd sign a contract similar to Parker at an average of 14M a year. A 5 year 70M would really make the team compe ive in signing other free agents.
One crucial distinction people seem to be missing is the max contract and the max extension. Max contracts are in the $20M/yr range, and are typically awarded to franchise players. Max extensions, like the Kawhi is asking for, are typically less than that, and their value is calculated based on the player's previous year's salary. For instance, Tony Parker received a max extension this offseason, yet he'll only be making $13M/yr.
$75-80 mil/5 yrs would be ideal for the Spurs, but if he's adamant the Spurs should cough up $90 mil/5yrs. Kawhi has been unbelievable these past 3 seasons tbh. He's the reason the Spurs became le favorites overnight.
The Lakers will lead the Come Home campaign and you never know he may bolt.
That's cause Tony never signed a Max till date. I think Tim only signed the Max once (in 2000). If Tim had actually signed a Max extension in 2007 & 2012, he'd probably be making more than what Kobe did last season.
His agent will want the max as badly as him. His only other client are fringe NBA players so he'll be chasing his first pay day.
His play is not yet max caliber but if scrubs like parsons and hayward are paid that much then why would kawhi take less??? The market dictates the player's worth, not his play.
pay this man! he can take a discount when he is on his second deal (not counting the rookie deal).
Not surprising. KL is getting the max now or next summer, but make no mistake barring an injury or some goodwill on KL's side, he's getting it. It's the current state of the market, so Forget notions of salary pegged to talent level. Like any good negotiator RC is probing for any softness from the otherside.
The spurs may be OK with matching a shorter RfA Chandler Parson type deal, as referenced by WOJ. Sure there is a risk of losing KL in the future, but The spurs are going to be in suck mode by 2017. From Leonard's point of view, again barring injury as well as any lockout shenanigans, it's also not a bad outcome. By that point you'd expect teams can pay a top flight player more given the cap projections.
Lastly, by 2017 TP will probably join the rest of the big three in retirement, so who knows where the spurs will be in the rebuild/reload process. If KL doesn't take the leap into the top 10 nba players, do you really want a quasi-star earning the max as you try to rebuild?
With the new TV deal, Kawhi max 2014 contract won't be a really max next years.
The cap in 2017 will allow the Spurs rebuild and sign two great FA even if they sign the Leonard contract extension this year.
I'm not sure, if a player gets annoyed and wants to leave the best way for him is taking the qualifying offer and becomes UFA. If he is losing money now, he will ultimately double that money in next contract.
Gonna be a lot of meltdown in this thread.
Relax...they will pay him.
Almost no one ever does that, and for some reason, it's usually a center. Rasho, Olowokandi, and Monroe are the only ones I remember over a decade. That's ~300 first round picks, and 3 guys.
What if Kawhi's really not injured, and it's all an agreed upon smoke screen to cover up a hold out while both sides sit down and try to work it out?Gonna be a lot of meltdown in this thread.
Relax...they will pay him.
Kawhi put SA over the top and got Duncan to 5
Some of y'all are acting like he's Richard Jefferson status all of a sudden
Besides, y'all act like some top flight FA is going to choose SA one of these years. We aren't going to lose out on LeBron or Melo if Kawhi gets a max extension...if anything, it'll keep us from overpaying some overhyped system-made player down the road.
First it was 2centsworth's daughter, then it was NBA TV, and now ultimately the Spurs will offer a contract to Kawhi and will turn it down.
One thing people are missing.
Theres talk of the cap scaling up with 2 medium jumps instead of 1 huge jump.
Kawhi signing a max contract isn't 25% of the 2014 cap, its 25% of the 2015 cap.
So say it does 15mil jump each year instead of 1 30mil jump.
that means
Kawhi gets a deal around 20-21mil a year.
No incentive to do it now unless he takes even a dollar below the max so its not based in percentages
Well, the market rules change every year. If a player wants to hit the market as UFA -particularly in 2017-, we could see more players accepting qualifying offers next summer.
They can't give him that - either the max for 5 years ( around $90 mil ) or a 4-year contract.
Duncan signed max deals. Parker and Ginobili didn't.
Tim signed a max deal in 03 also.
Anyone who thinks Leonard is getting anything less than 4 years at max is crazy. It's a lot of money for someone who isn't a franchise player, but no way the Spurs can let him take a QO next summer. No chance the deal gets done this year, but they have to give it to him next summer. With the TV deal kicking in for 2016 it might even make financial sense to give him that fifth year since his base salary would still be based on the 2015 cap instead of the much higher 2016 cap.
Just pay the man.
Duncan received the maximum possible salary for the first 13 years of his career.
Nice to see you come around on this.
Spurs are absolutely doing the right thing by waiting. No reason to bid against themselves. With their track record of history and success and not overpaying the "others", despite how good they are, there is no difference with Kawhi.
It's very tough to do what guys like Parsons did. To turn down that extra 4th year at max level. It's an investement in yourself, but risky. Worst case, the Spurs pay him less than they would by matching a 3 year max, and have 3 years to see him "earn" that bigger, longer deal. If he does, the Spurs would be fine paying that money and I'm sure Kawhi would be more than happy to except that from the Spurs.
Hopefully what happens is Kawhi agrees to a 4 year deal with the Spurs before hitting RFA. But if not, no biggie. Those using the logic of " so and so got a big deal and they aren't as good" doesn't mean Kawhi automatically should get that. Just because other teams are foolish, doesn't mean the Spurs should be. The fact the Spurs aren't like other teams in that regard is a big reason they have sustained the success they have.
He will get paid. The Spurs could give him 48.5 and I wouldn't care.
Spurs are gambling a bit... but I think it is long odds Kawhi goes anywhere else.
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