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Yeah...but maybe that's not the only problem.
Confusing an amazing 3D guy with an elite two-way player could be a real issue, too.
5 yr / $90 million is $18 million per year. That is a crap load of money. Neither Parker nor Manu has ever earned that much money per year. I guess there will be no patented Spurs discount. It's probably also his agent convincing him he's worth that much. Leonard's agent did trot him out to the public after the finals and try to put his name out there as much as possible. The agent planned this throughout the summer and tried to hype up Leonard's name.
Is Leonard worth $18 million a year? Probably not.. true he played 3 spectacular games in the finals but Leonard is a weaker finals MVP like Billups and Parker. The Spurs won through teamwork but Leonard was definitely the best Spurs on the floor. But with the new CBA, $18 million a year might be the new $14 million a year so it might be worth it. Either way, the Spurs should wait and see how this season plays out. If Leonard makes it to the all star game and/or all NBA team, then the Spurs should have no problem giving Leonard the max. If Leonard doesn't improve, the Spurs can just match whatever in the offseason.
Yeah...but maybe that's not the only problem.
Confusing an amazing 3D guy with an elite two-way player could be a real issue, too.
I didn't call him injury prone... just something that can be a concern. When a team is looking to hand out a max deal, everything gets taken into account, especially for such a young player.
should have given manu the finals mvp
But you can't worry for a nail on court...
"Take a discount Kawhi, it's the Spurs way"
... Just look what that did to Parker, these grumpy ass dudes blame everything on him. Even though he never got the Max contract once in his career.
GET PAID KAWHI, DONT LISTEN TO THESE HOMERS
What if the regular season starts and he's still averaging 12 and 6. I'm as big a proponent of defense as anyone on this forum, but is a 12 and 6 guy a max deal player?
In 2013, yes.
How the is Kawhi going to improve? He does what he can with the role and touches he is given. Some people are ing re ed. Should Pop run the offense through Kawhi? Is that what you all want to see?
Trust me, they -R.C.-Kawhi- don't read this forum/ST.
I don't worry about anything. But the Spurs will question whether he's too fragile, whether that tendonitis could be a concern long term (ie: will it require surgery at some point?). It's stuff teams will try to use as leverage when you're talking about a max deal.
So that wasn't Timmy who posted on here that one time?
I think the Spurs are a franchise that will look past raw stats, and look into on-off metrics, the kind of person they have, etc. But regardless, Kawhi's value is driven by the market. If a team thinks 12 and 6 warrants a max deal, then that's his value.
The Spurs can choose to agree with that or not.
Tendonitis could be a concern -last season he seems/was completely recovered from that injury- but not the games he missed for a nail on the court...so I'm just saying that 16 missed games for season isn't a real number.
It'll be interesting to see (if his numbers don't go up drastically, which obviously might happen) if teams are as high on Kawhi as they are now, fresh off his FMVP performance.
Kawhi's obviously not Duncan, but I think he's right there with what Ginobili and Parker were in their early to mid 20s. He's a really strong two way player who can shoot the jumper, go to the post, and finish in transition. I think that translates more to maybe a $13-$14 million a season player instead of an $18 million a season guy, but I could swallow the max extension knowing there is about to be a huge inflation in player contracts from the new TV deal.
This. The team keeps saying he is the future of the franchise. Tim was the franchise and got the max. Kawhi's agent will tell him to expect no less. Tony and Manu never got max contracts - as someone else pointed out - max extensions are based on percentage increases over prior contract - not absolute money.
This will be interesting to see because not only will Kawhi be the only one left from this terrific team, he will be playing for a coach he doesn't yet know. Money is about the only certain thing the guy can have at this point.
2010: Swept by the Suns
2011: Lose to an 8th seed as the 1st seed
*trade for Kawhi*
2012: get happy. Lose in the WCF after a 20 game win streak
2013: SA have #5 on the grasp, but lose to the Heat thanks to unfortunate events (Kawhi in Game 6. 22pts, 11reb) (Kawhi in Game 7. 19pts, 16reb)
2014: Spurs rape the Heatles, Kawhi wins Finals MVP (Games 3, 4, & 5 averages. 23.7ppg, 9.3rpg, 2spg, 68.6fg%, 53.8 3P%)
See a pattern?
The real, hard number is that he's never played over 66 games in a regular season. That's less than Duncan in the last 3 seasons (rest included). Granted, some of that has been rest for him too. Now, you can say he's been unlucky for 3 years, and some of those were freak injuries, but I think any team (not just the Spurs) will take a hard look at that before putting the money on the table, or at least, in the case of the Spurs, to use it as leverage.
FWIW, I' would be much more at peace with Kawhi getting the max, than when we gave RJ that albatross extension, tbh...
Plus the Spurs can't be too choosy... Big name FA's coming this way are rare, and once the big 3 is no more, it's going to be an even more difficult pull, IMO.
It's not like we're talking about Eric Bledsoe though.
Not at all. Plus Bledsoe didn't have a FMVP to throw into the conversation.
Has Chinook weighed in yet?
I live in LA also and you're right, it does make a lot of sense but I don't see any way the Spurs let him go. They'll match any offer, even if they have to break the bank imo.
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