Study: Liberals, atheists, have higher IQs

[xellos88330]

Wut? How is god known?

If you people are so into the logical, why in the do you keep forcing things into a circular argument? Because the answer isn't one that you like? I can do that too. As a matter of fact, I do that with my wife all the time. LOL!!!

[DisAsTerBot]

not sure how that's a circular argument. "god" is unknown, Im not sure we can have any discussion without agreeing on this point.

[Blake]

If you people are so into the logical, why in the do you keep forcing things into a circular argument? Because the answer isn't one that you like? I can do that too. As a matter of fact, I do that with my wife all the time. LOL!!!

I didn't make an argument. I asked a question.

How exactly is god known?

[xellos88330]

not sure how that's a circular argument. "god" is unknown, Im not sure we can have any discussion without agreeing on this point.

You still haven't answered my question. How do you quantify the unknown? Let me add another. Because there is the unknown, does that mean something not known can't exist?

[xellos88330]

I didn't make an argument. I asked a question.

How exactly is god known?

You are still trying to force the circular argument. Choose a different path.

But if you must have an answer...

God is known because existence exists.

[DisAsTerBot]

Because there is the unknown, does that mean something not known can't exist?

no

[Blake]

You still haven't answered my question. How do you quantify the unknown? Let me add another. Because there is the unknown, does that mean something not known can't exist?

You're diving into spaghetti monster waters

[xellos88330]

You're diving into spaghetti monster waters

Adding a goofy name in an attempt to downplay the thought itself is insulting to logic.

[Blake]

You are still trying to force the circular argument. Choose a different path.

But if you must have an answer...

God is known because existence exists.

if God is known because existence exists, then why did he give atheists the higher IQs?

smh..

[Blake]

Adding a goofy name in an attempt to downplay the thought itself is insulting to logic.

Does the name Zeus work better for you?

Can you prove that Zeus doesn't exist?

[xellos88330]

if God is known because existence exists, then why did he give atheists the higher IQs?

smh..

The only factual argument that can come of that is that of those 518 people, the atheistic person scored higher.

Were you one of those that was studied? If you weren't, what gives you the right to take pride in it? It makes no logical sense since it isn't your accomplishment. Higher IQ indeed.

[xellos88330]

Does the name Zeus work better for you?

Can you prove that Zeus doesn't exist?

Can you?

[Blake]

Can you?

No. Can you prove a flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist?

[xellos88330]

No. Can you prove a flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist?

Can you?

[DisAsTerBot]

this is really going somewhere!

[RD2191]

Study: Atheists are huge gots.

[DisAsTerBot]

glad that guy is on your team!

[xellos88330]

this is really going somewhere!

I am proving a point.

It is completely different when someone other than the atheist is answering a question with a question, forcing the atheist into their own circular argument.

[Blake]

Can you?

No, so by your logic, it's perfectly reasonable to debate his existence.

[xellos88330]

No, so by your logic, it's perfectly reasonable to debate his existence.

Of course it is. And by your logic, it is perfectly reasonable to debate his non existence. Hence, this debate.

[RandomGuy]

A misunderstanding of math in Zeno's paradox is the same as misunderstanding the God Paradox.

In the God paradox, a person is trying to understand God within the framework of our own physical reality. God transcends that. To ask true questions about God, one must be able to get past the confines of their dependence on the physical.

Please demonstrate that "God transcends physical reality".

Seems like a pretty straightforward claim, surely you can show me something that establishes that things can transcend our physical reality.

[spurraider21]

I think that is where evolution comes into play.

I believe that we were indeed created by a creator, but in what form were we originally created? I understand that the Bible states that we were created in God's image, but what exactly is that image? Just like a seed, I believe we were intended to grow.

theism is compatible with evolution

religion isn't, if taken at face value. the bible specifically says god created adam right there, separately from the animals. and if you are going to pick and choose which parts of the bible to take literally and which parts not to, it loses its whole meaning

[DAF86]

That's also not surprising to me. Theists have their philosophy already.

I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. Atheism appeals to intellectuals, that we can agree on. But it appeals to them because it lines up with their views, not because it is inherently more reasonable.

I can't speak for intellectuals but to me the Theory Of Evolution makes inherently more sense than the unproven existence of a supreme being.

[mouse]

How exactly is god known?

I can think of two ways.


known #1
You go to China and visit a gift shop where they sell Bibles and other religious items to tourists and local born again Christians or Catholics etc..
when you leave you can say I had no idea God is known in that part of China.

known #2
Used In a sentence, for example some may say "God is known to do this" or "God is known for his almighty powers" etc.....

[Blake]

Of course it is.

no it's not. Flying spaghetti monster is ridiculous.

And by your logic, it is perfectly reasonable to debate his non existence. Hence, this debate.

wrong. By my logic, since there is no proof of a god, there is no debate.