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    Not crappy when it's a decent possibility. He didn't do horribly in Summer League, but he wasn't exatly dominating out there. And, that, for the most part, is sub-par compe ion. It is possible that when he sees full NBA rosters, not just the third stringers of Summer League, he will be unable to adapt. But, nothing's guaranteed either way. We'll just have to wait and see.
    we have no idea what it is the spurs coaching staff was asking him to do in summer league. what we see out there is not necessarily a reflection of his overall performance because we have no criteria to judge it by. he wouldn't be the first or last spurs player to seemingly perform in a less than stellar fashion in the summer league only to come out and eventually have a nice stint with the team.

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    we have no idea what it is the spurs coaching staff was asking him to do in summer league. what we see out there is not necessarily a reflection of his overall performance because we have no criteria to judge it by. he wouldn't be the first or last spurs player to seemingly perform in a less than stellar fashion in the summer league only to come out and eventually have a nice stint with the team.
    Of course he COULD do well. I didn't say or imply he could not. I am on his bandwagon, and I'm not even saying he did poorly in summer league. But, despite any special instruction given to him in summer league, he didn't set it on fire. That did not wash away any doubts as to whether he can play vs NBA talent. It doesn't mean he can't, it just means that he didn't play so well as to remove all doubt. When someone says that he can't hang with NBA talent, their doubt is well within reason established by Anderson's limited play. It's not a "crappy" take. Just one that sees the same glass you are looking at - half empty.

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    Of course he COULD do well. I didn't say or imply he could not. I am on his bandwagon, and I'm not even saying he did poorly in summer league. But, despite any special instruction given to him in summer league, he didn't set it on fire. That did not wash away any doubts as to whether he can play vs NBA talent. It doesn't mean he can't, it just means that he didn't play so well as to remove all doubt. When someone says that he can't hang with NBA talent, their doubt is well within reason established by Anderson's limited play. It's not a "crappy" take. Just one that sees the same glass you are looking at - half empty.
    well to me the half glass/half empty scenario simply tells me that one can not conclude either way or that there are too many possibilities which could play out. so when i see anything conclusive about something i tend to see it as a "bad" or at least unsound take. it's not that i am seeing the glass in any particular way but rather that i am keeping an open mind. AND, if i had to defer to any opinion at all at this time, i would think he will become a nice role player for us at some point.

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    Best Case Scenario: Magic Johnson.

    Worst Case Scenario: Bo Outlaw.
    I think his athleticism is more like Larry Bird than Magic. Would Magic Johnson's traits with Larry Bird's athletic ability be more like Andersons best case scenario?

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    I think his athleticism is more like Larry Bird than Magic. Would Magic Johnson's traits with Larry Bird's athletic ability be more like Andersons best case scenario?
    add MJ compe iveness and you got it right

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    A comparison no one has even brought up would be Rondo. Both are neither too quick, and are playmakers. Of course, Anderson doesn't have the vision rondo does nor his defense at this point, but to me, it's not a stretch to say KA can be a similar player.

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    I think Anderson's minutes will be dictated by Diaw. If aggressive Boris shows up again this year, Kyle will get garbage/spot/injury minutes. If Bobcat Boris decides to make an appearance, Anderson might get thrown off the boat to see how well he swims.

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    I just hope the kid sticks around and becomes a contributor at some point down the road and not become a taller version of De Culo, who was also lauded for his passing while acknowledging his own lack of athleticism.

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    How did he play in the scrimmage?

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    How did he play in the scrimmage?
    dominated. dropped 60 including several effortless free throw line dunks

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    well to me the half glass/half empty scenario simply tells me that one can not conclude either way or that there are too many possibilities which could play out. so when i see anything conclusive about something i tend to see it as a "bad" or at least unsound take. it's not that i am seeing the glass in any particular way but rather that i am keeping an open mind. AND, if i had to defer to any opinion at all at this time, i would think he will become a nice role player for us at some point.
    Only problem with any of that is that you didn't call any of the overly glowing appraisals of Anderson's NBA potential "crappy" despite the inconclusiveness. So conclusive takes that are negative are crappy, but conclusive takes that are glowing praise just align with your opinion based on a zero sample of NBA games, which is not crappy. Got it.

    Again, he might be a solid role player. He may not have the athleticism to survive in the NBA. I don't see how anyone's opinion that is yet to be proved fact, either way, can be too crappy. He may be wrong, but I don't disparage anyone for holding it. 29 teams passed on him for exactly the same reason. So, his crappy opinion would be in some good company.

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    dominated. dropped 60 including several effortless free throw line dunks

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    He has a long way to go defensively. Had a nice block on Daye, but got bullied every other time. He played the three every time I noticed him. Had to guard Kawhi in the post and didn't get it done. What's concerning is that playing a wing close to the basket is about the easiest thing a 6-9 wing with little athleticism can do. Leonard didn't even try to take Kyle off the dribble. I also think Daye got the better of him more often than not. Kid's a rook, though. No way he could be expected to hang with starters right now.

    Offensively, he was all right. Made some nice passes from the perimeter. Drove a couple of times, but he looked worse than Green off the dribble, so I doubt Kyle is destined to be a PG. His shot was mainly off, but the stream was too bad for me to see how the shots looked. He'll need to be a very efficient scorer inside the arc to be able to open passing lanes for his teammates. Again, didn't help that Kawhi was his defender.

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    Sounds like many of you may be right that he is destined for some time with the Toros.

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    A comparison no one has even brought up would be Rondo. Both are neither too quick, and are playmakers. Of course, Anderson doesn't have the vision rondo does nor his defense at this point, but to me, it's not a stretch to say KA can be a similar player.
    From the little I've seen of the two, if vision was something we could remove and weigh, Kyle's would be comparable to just about anyone's. Even the Rondos of the world. But, even slow Rondo seems much quicker.

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    Dead men posting...

    Frkn wack job.

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    add MJ compe iveness and you got it right
    plus the omnipotence of Ditka and yeah.

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    Whoah! Not being tagged in this thread left me out in the cold. My "crappy" take is just an opinion and like littlecoyotecoin said, could be wrong. I sincerely hope I am. However, based on what I've seen from him thus far - mostly from summer league and some from college, he doesn't possess the athletic ability or the proper footwork to stay in front of quicker opponents on defense. -- Neither does Marco Belinelli, but at least the guy is a world-class shooter who won the 3 pt contest.

    And please don't suggest (as RC implied) that Anderson belongs in the same class as Tim Duncan when it comes to nonathletic players being successful on the Spurs. Tim Duncan was ready to play and compete with the best the NBA had to offer from day 1. His height and skills put him in a class all his own.

    The coaching staff took a bit of a chance on Anderson's smarts allowing him to stay on the floor. I don't see it. He can be smart all he wants but if he's getting torched on defense, he will be a liability. He's not strong enough to rebound or bang with NBA PF's and he's too slow to play against SF's. He'll have a height advantage when playing PG but his lack of speed will hurt him. Can you honestly see him checking Russell Westbrook or Monta Ellis?

    Nah, spot minutes during blowouts at best are what he can expect and a heavy dose of D-League.

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    Like I have said all along, Anderson well spend most of his rookie season in Austin. Nothing wrong with this, doesnt mean Anderson well be a bust, just means the spurs are deep as .

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    Like I have said all along, Anderson well spend most of his rookie season in Austin. Nothing wrong with this, doesnt mean Anderson well be a bust, just means the spurs are deep as .
    I'm not sure you can even call a #30 pick a bust under any cir stances.

    I've said from the beginning and I still maintain that his ultimate position will be stretch four. They'll have to work off the baby fat, and bulk him up, but they're good at both of those things. With stretch fours being all the rage, he might have a position to guard. Most of them do not put the ball on the floor to any degree, and not many post up. They shoot.

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    My take 4 weeks ago:

    He's too slow and will be a defensive liability. His shooting mechanics are awful as well. Not just bad, but awful. Going up against NBA compe ion is going to humble him. No longer will his height be such a huge advantage when seeing the floor and getting his shot off. He's a smart player and a good passer but I doubt he gets to see the floor much. It will take a while to see what the Spurs have in him and in the meantime he will be Pop's new whipping boy.

    All that and his head is too big. That's his ceiling in year one.
    Scouts Take - Courtesy of Express News:

    Kyle Anderson

    Has some of same basketball IQ as Diaw but is slower than Duncan. Really slow. Greatest advantage is height. Can't defend NBA guards, and that's where his issues lie. Has to be wide open to get off shot because he has such a slow release. Great ball handler and good feel for game, but has true physical limitations. Challenged at defensive end, especially against quickness.

    P.S. I stayed at a Holiday Inn.
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    I only saw him a couple of times in preseason for very short minutes and he didn't show much, but the sample was so small.

    One interesting note, on the NBA-TV show "open Court" a couple of the panelists threw him some props by way of saying the Spurs had pulled off a coup by getting him at 30. They felt he could fit into the Spurs scheme. Don't remember where they said they had seen him play.

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    My take 4 weeks ago:



    Scouts Take - Courtesy of Express News:

    Kyle Anderson

    Has some of same basketball IQ as Diaw but is slower than Duncan. Really slow. Greatest advantage is height. Can't defend NBA guards, and that's where his issues lie. Has to be wide open to get off shot because he has such a slow release. Great ball handler and good feel for game, but has true physical limitations. Challenged at defensive end, especially against quickness.

    P.S. I stayed at a Holiday Inn.
    You think you were plagiarised?

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    You think you were plagiarised?
    No, not at all. I just think the scout saw what I saw or the other way around. I'm not a pro scout but KA's limitations are pretty obvious to me.

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    No, not at all. I just think the scout saw what I saw or the other way around. I'm not a pro scout but KA's limitations are pretty obvious to me.
    Same scout says Kawhi will never be a "go-to guy" and that Jeff Ayres is a good fit for the Spurs.

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