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Just a thought -- can anyone think of someone who hasn't died of Ebola who transmitted it?
(I know the sample size of traceable cases is small.)
Of course her own rules. Thus the defiant bike ride and the legal fight, and the general martyrdom of "I'm going to fight the quarantine that has been imposed on me." Yes. Her own rules. She will be quarantined only if she feels she needs to be. Very dangerous precedent, not to mention just selfish and overly dramatic. It is not jail, and it is not an extraordinary long period of time, and it is something that she knew was a potential outcome when she signed up for it.
Generally, I enjoy the verve in your posts, and get and crack up at your sense of humor. This isn't personal, but you're way off base in implying I don't know how it is spread or that you have a superior understanding. That does not appear to be the case.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...ry.html#page=1
That ONE article gives reference to:
1) An Ebola researcher saying he would not rule out infection via airborne particles in confined spaces. The CDC has recently "refined" the statements that it can't be contracted via air.
2) That there is a chance that Asymptomatic people can transmit the disease. Personally speaking, this is patently OBVIOUS. It is MORE LIKELY transmitted if you are symptomatic, but if you have it, you can transmit it if your body has yet to even ramp up a defense (fever), the viral count is rapidly growing, pre-fever. And, we are talking about continuums, here. Do you think that a person is not infectious, because you've been told they're not at 98.6 degrees, but automatically becomes infectious at 98.7 degrees? Or, are they infectious at 98.61 degrees? 98.601 degrees? But, absolutely not ever contagious at 98.6 degrees.
3) There is just too much we just don't know.
In addition, for example, the CDC does not state that it can't be transmitted from an asymptomatic victim or symptomatic victim to an uninfected individual via mosquito. What they say is that there is no evidence that it can be. Not the same thing as can't. It's a rare disease. We may not know. And, if they find out it can be, but the likelihood is low, especially since biological reservoirs are few and far between for the mosquito, the CDC might be hesitant to put that in a headline.
Mind you, that is one article quoting just a couple of scientists.
Do you know how it is transmitted?
Last edited by littlecoyotecoin; 10-31-2014 at 11:23 AM.
Just a thought -- can anyone think of someone who hasn't died of Ebola who transmitted it?
(I know the sample size of traceable cases is small.)
First, that nurse knows more about Ebola than the people that ordered her quarantine -- she was around it and treated it firsthand. She knows, they don't.
Second, the CDC says she shouldn't be quarantined.
Third, the only ones who ordered the quarantine are scared politicians with their fingers in the air -- afraid of looking like they're not "doing enough." It's the theatre of security by the same people who make you take your shoes off at the airport.
Fourth, she's perfect for that Spurs jersey. She's a contrarian who beats people who seen to have more power than she does. Then they still don't understand why.
We don't know of all of the African patients that have transmitted it to the healthcare workers. Most of them are relatively lost in anonymity in the large numbers infected in Africa. The death rate is 50-70% though, is what i hear reported.
Thus far, Pham, the other Dallas nurse, and the Male doctor in NYC have yet to be known to have infected anyone. All infections to healthcare workers, thus far, have come from Africans, And, I am unaware of an infection outside the health industry.
Thus far, most but not all of the healthcare workers that have gotten it have recovered. But they've been getting top-notch treatment from day one, Zmapp, etc, and blood transfusions from previously infected survivors with valuable antibodies. In a pandemic, all of those things are not necessarily available. That would be the worry. Especially blood transfusions from survivors. We could ramp up drug production, but Zmapp, for example, hasn't proven yet if or how effective it is, so the ability to ramp up its production might be irrelevant. The healthcare workers have acted brotherly in making sure other healthcare workers get their blood when matches are available. One or two of these instances are public record.
I didn't read all the posts, but here is my 2 cents. Since the Ebola crisis began, MORE people have died from the flu than ebola. And that is just since this whole thing has started. The number of deaths caused by Ebola throughout history is nothing compared to how many people the flu has killed. The flu is also easier to catch than ebola. Yet, we do not force those who get diagnosed with the flu to be quarantined. They are free to walk around the neighborhood, hit a drive thru somewhere, go to the store to get medicine (or anything else they need), or anything else they feel up to doing. How come no one is ing about the many many many people walking around with a diesase that kills more than Ebola and is easier to catch?
It means my freedoms and paychecks are not yours to take just because you can amass more votes, you jealous, ignorant, freeloader, loon.
Smart people are in every city. Big ones just attract a larger ratio of morons like yourself.
More die of flu because more catch it. The rate of death is miniscule compared to Ebola. Stupid comparison. Next.
Last edited by Skull-1; 10-31-2014 at 12:19 PM.
Mr. Duncan was symptomatic when he went to that Dallas hospital. He was around a lot of people, in fact he was allowed to sit in the waiting room, yet only those 2 nurses got sick. None of the other patients in the room, nor the staff at the front desk got sick. That tells me it is in fact very hard to catch. You have to really get close to the blood, sweat, seman, or mucus of an infected person. Yes Ebola kills a higher percentage of people that get it, but you are right, it is A LOT harder to catch than the flu. Therefore, if she isn't showing symptoms and has so far tested negative, why should she be forcefully quarntined? This is America.
So basically anything you want it to mean, because it sure doesn't mean in the real world.
You need to lay off the fear mongering by fox news and rush fat . I do like Bill O'reilly a little though.
FYI read some other POVs from time to time.
Lol politics.
I guess I got trolled.
This is ing re ed. No offense.
So is denying an American of their rights and freedoms. No offense.
Yep.
Think about the dude in Dallas. Who got ebola from him? only the nurses taking care of him.
And that dude was out for a long time.
Calm down.
Skull 1 is good people. I just don't care much for politics.
If you ever get the flu. Quarantine yourself and your family.
Because that kills people.
Are you really going to do that?
That should be in quarantine though.
If she isnt showing symptoms and has tested negative, what valid reason do they have to quarantine her?
She's coming from Africa. That's enough for me. I wouldn't even let her back into the states.
Flu kills mostly the old or the fragile. Ebola pretty much kills anyone healthy or not. You can have an epidemic if ebola is not handled correctly. Just stating that out.
I trust the CDC or health workers working with ebola though.
Her right to ride her bicycle is more important than public safety.
For some CRAZY reason, the military will impose 21 day quarantine for soldiers returning from that area.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/29/politi...la-quarantine/
I would place them in a resort in africa for 2 more months without direct contact with ebola before letting them travel again.
Well, it may be good enough for you, but in America we have these things called rights and you can't just deny people their rights based on some media fear mongering.
And just to point out again, that Duncan guy went to the hospital TWICE. He was symptomatic both times, in fact he even threw up outside while he was going back to the hospitol the 2nd time. Yet, the ONLY people to catch it from him were the two nurses that treated him. Not the people that sat in the same waiting room, not the staff that checked him in, none of the Doctors that helped him, and none of the people at his appartment complex caught it. Therefore, I can say I would not be afraid of someone on a bike ride. I would ride my bike next to her without being afraid.
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