Ebola Nurse Kaci Hickox -- Spurs Fan

[littlecoyotecoin]

lol tl;dr your fear-mongering.

The scientific community is in lockstep with this. She's not a danger. End of story.

The fact that you tl;dr is why you think the scientific community is in lock step when they're not.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Again, do you know how it spread in Africa more than in the US?

Again, you ignore all mathematics and quotes from virologists and are at the same time begging for a response to really basic stuff they say on the radio and television all the time.

[Cry Havoc]

The fact that you tl;dr is why you think the scientific community is in lock step when they're not.

Link and source, chief. I couldn't care less about your inane ramblings.

[Dre_7]

BTW, I just checked out the article you "spoon-fed" me, and no where in it does it say someone who is not symptomatic and has not tested postive for Ebola is contagious.

[ChumpDumper]

Again, you ignore all mathematics and quotes from virologists and are at the same time begging for a response to really basic stuff they say on the radio and television all the time.

You promised you knew how it was being spread and that we are uneducated.

Educate us.

[Cry Havoc]

Link and source, chief. I couldn't care less about your inane ramblings.

BTW, I just checked out the article you "spoon-fed" me, and no where in it does it say someone who is not symptomatic and has not tested postive for Ebola is contagious.

You promised you knew how it was being spread and that we are uneducated.

Educate us.

[littlecoyotecoin]

That proves my point exactly. So because I didn't read the posts on Spurs Talk my opinion is uneducated? No, my opinions come, not from the posts of scared people, but from the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE on Ebola.

No, not just because, but because you don't use any science in you sciency proof posts it indicates that you probably aren't familiar with much of it. Even when confronted with it, you rather dismiss it, supplant it for that which you already know to be true from your sciency arsenal. I have a degree in a pretty sciency subject and work in fields on the periphery. All pretty sciency. I am no virologist, no epidemiologist, but you can't even muster up an undergrad middle school biology rebuttal. So, no, it's not "just because you don't read the posts." It's: in addition, you can't even be bothered to read the science in the posts. What are the odds you read much outside of the posts? Very low.

i could be wrong. Maybe I am talking with an epidemiologist. There are some really smart scientists on this board. I am not convinced you are one of them. Sorry if that hurt your feelings. It is not meant to.

[Skull-1]

Wow. Ok that tells me all I need to know. Apparently fear, not scientific evidence is the basis of your argument, therefore it is pointless to keep arguing. I'm just glad we don't live in the kind of military state you clearly want to live in. You should move to North Korea, they are making sure to protect their county from the fear of Ebola.

What "scientific evidence" re ? You mean the same "scientists" (political hacks) who made up Global Warming?


LMAO!


Riddle me this, genius, how many cases of Ebola have their been that we know of?


That's right exactly. Enough to know squat.


So little that the "protocols" for treatment change constantly.


GTFO. Public safety trumps Nurse Idiot's bike ride until her incubation period lapses. End of story.

[Skull-1]

I'm going to leave you alone now. Too easy picking on a scared human being.

^^^ Can't win. No facts. Declares "victory".

[ChumpDumper]

What "scientific evidence" re ? You mean the same "scientists" (political hacks) who made up Global Warming?

Um, those are in no way the same scientists.

[Skull-1]

And she is not infecting people because the SCIENTIFIC CONJECTURE says she is not contagious.

FIFY

[Dre_7]

No, not just because, but because you don't use any science in you sciency proof posts it indicates that you probably aren't familiar with much of it. Even when confronted with it, you rather dismiss it, supplant it for that which you already know to be true from your sciency arsenal. I have a degree in a pretty sciency subject and work in fields on the periphery. All pretty sciency. I am no virologist, no epidemiologist, but you can't even muster up an undergrad middle school biology rebuttal. So, no, it's not "just because you don't read the posts." It's: in addition, you can't even be bothered to read the science in the posts. What are the odds you read much outside of the posts? Very low.

i could be wrong. Maybe I am talking with an epidemiologist. There are some really smart scientists on this board. I am not convinced you are one of them. Sorry if that hurt your feelings. It is not meant to.

What proof have you confronted me with? All you posted was an op-ed and a link to subsribe to . I read that article, no where in it does it proove anything. As for my proof, like I said, I work at a clinic and we get up to date info on Ebola. I am basing my opinion on what Doctors, Nurses, and others who have been studying Ebola have said.

[DarrinS]

What does the CDC recommend for someone in her situation?

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/exposur...oring-movement

[ChumpDumper]

What does the CDC recommend for someone in her situation?

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/exposur...oring-movement

If the Maine officials want to incarcerate her, I don't see anything immediately stopping them.

[Cry Havoc]

I have a degree in a pretty sciency subject and work in fields on the periphery. All pretty sciency.

This has to be one of the funniest most ironic humble-brags I have ever read on these here internets.

[ChumpDumper]

It's been over ten minutes. When should we expect to be educated?

[littlecoyotecoin]

Considering the actions you are demanding to take place and telling posters about infected schoolchildren and sending their own children into a purported hot zone, yes, your posts indicate a definite level of excitement.

You're being a little bit intentionally dense.

I am not demanding anything. I am agreeing with a policy and demands the government has made. I am posing hypotheticals and telling the uninformed what they are doing in environments where the disease is running rampant. When someone runs a simulation, they aren't getting excited. They're just studying. How people behave in west Africa will be no different than they behave here, including Dre. You. Sammy. Cry Havoc, or me. Right now we have different opinions because it is just a mental exercise. But, we all know what we would do if the hit the fan, and if it did, very few people will still be up in arms over this grandstanding nurse.

[Cry Havoc]

What does the CDC recommend for someone in her situation?

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/exposur...oring-movement

Asymptomatic (no fever or other symptoms consistent with Ebola):

Direct active monitoring
Public health authority will ensure, through orders as necessary, the following minimum restrictions:
Controlled movement: exclusion from all long-distance and local public conveyances (aircraft, ship, train, bus and subway)
Exclusion from public places (e.g., shopping centers, movie theaters), and congregate gatherings
Exclusion from workplaces for the duration of the public health order, unless approved by the state or local health department (telework is permitted)
Non-congregate public activities while maintaining a 3-foot distance from others may be permitted (e.g., jogging in a park)
Federal public health travel restrictions (Do Not Board) will be implemented to enforce controlled movement
If travel is allowed, individuals are subject to controlled movement
Travel by noncommercial conveyances only
Coordinated with public health authorities at both origin and destination
Uninterrupted direct active monitoring

No mention of mandatory quarantine ANYWHERE.

[ChumpDumper]

You're being a little bit intentionally dense.

I am not demanding anything. I am agreeing with a policy and demands the government has made. I am posing hypotheticals and telling the uninformed what they are doing in environments where the disease is running rampant. When someone runs a simulation, they aren't getting excited. They're just studying. How people behave in west Africa will be no different than they behave here, including Dre. You. Sammy. Cry Havoc, or me. Right now we have different opinions because it is just a mental exercise. But, we all know what we would do if the hit the fan, and if it did, very few people will still be up in arms over this grandstanding nurse.

Nah, you're excited.

It's fine.

Now when are you going to educate us?

[Cry Havoc]

You're being a little bit intentionally dense.

I am not demanding anything. I am agreeing with a policy and demands the government has made. I am posing hypotheticals and telling the uninformed what they are doing in environments where the disease is running rampant. When someone runs a simulation, they aren't getting excited. They're just studying. How people behave in west Africa will be no different than they behave here, including Dre. You. Sammy. Cry Havoc, or me. Right now we have different opinions because it is just a mental exercise. But, we all know what we would do if the hit the fan, and if it did, very few people will still be up in arms over this grandstanding nurse.

Follow-up question: Can you backpedal any harder?

[Dre_7]

No mention of mandatory quarantine ANYWHERE.

No, but there is this: "Non-congregate public activities while maintaining a 3-foot distance from others may be permitted (e.g., jogging in a park)" So her bike ride is okay according to that link.

[Cry Havoc]

From:

You will see that courts will hold up the quarantines as legal, so your whining that her rights are being violated will be in error as pointed out by the courts. And, I am a big civil liberties guy. But, in these cases, the right of the 330 million outweigh her right to overturn the quarantine, setting the precedent for anyone to violate them in the future when they wish. Do some reading on the resurgence of drug resistant Tuberculosis, for example, and people having to be detained for this same reason. "I feal fine, I am recovered, you can't make me stay in this hospital and keep taking all those pills...I am getting out of here." But, uneducated opinions like yours ("I didn't read the posts...but let me weigh in on staving off armageddon...I got this.") are will what will be our undoing if something like this runs through the country. Also, when you're beaten into submission by the reality of what has happened, and 3 kids at your school, or your daughter's school, etc. will cause you to fall in line and do what should have been done early on to avert it in the first place, which is advocate for isolation. Or, you could send your kid to school to prove a point. However, in communities where this is running rampant, do you think they've closed any schools? Do you think they're over-reacting? Do you want healthcare workers returning from that region just walking around unfettered?

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You're being a little bit intentionally dense.

I am not demanding anything. I am agreeing with a policy and demands the government has made. I am posing hypotheticals and telling the uninformed what they are doing in environments where the disease is running rampant. When someone runs a simulation, they aren't getting excited. They're just studying. How people behave in west Africa will be no different than they behave here, including Dre. You. Sammy. Cry Havoc, or me. Right now we have different opinions because it is just a mental exercise. But, we all know what we would do if the hit the fan, and if it did, very few people will still be up in arms over this grandstanding nurse.

in one page.

[Skull-1]

The fact that you tl;dr is why you think the scientific community is in lock step when they're not.

Democrats and nazis march(ed) in lockstep, too. Makes them equally wrong for their blindness to their ideology.

[Dre_7]

You're being a little bit intentionally dense.

I am not demanding anything. I am agreeing with a policy and demands the government has made. I am posing hypotheticals and telling the uninformed what they are doing in environments where the disease is running rampant. When someone runs a simulation, they aren't getting excited. They're just studying. How people behave in west Africa will be no different than they behave here, including Dre. You. Sammy. Cry Havoc, or me. Right now we have different opinions because it is just a mental exercise. But, we all know what we would do if the hit the fan, and if it did, very few people will still be up in arms over this grandstanding nurse.

IF hit the fan. But it DIDN'T!

If she had tested postive for Ebola, or even if she only had symptoms, I would be the first one demanding a quantrine. But she doesnt. Plain and simple.

[Skull-1]

Um, those are in no way the same scientists.

They work for the same people.