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    True. And if Danny Green gets a max offer, he's gone.
    Maybe. I don't think he will, but we'll see.

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    Which ing team gives him the max?
    Nobody!!!!

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    I don't want to imagine a scenario where Green walks and BelinoD is re-signed, that'd be a nightmare, seriously...

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    When you sign with the Spurs, you get additional benefits than most other teams.

    -50 win team
    -Deep playoff run
    -Lots of rest
    -Minimum distractions
    -Best coach and FO of the NBA
    -We take care of our own

    I would take 14mil for 4 years if I was Kawhi. Lots of benefits when you play here.
    This is likely Duncan's final season so a lot of those perks mentioned will be greatly diminished.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs-s...181115259.html

    Leonard's agent sounds like a jackass. Running to the media after the talks end to say "Leonard wants to explore the restricted free agency." The Spurs usually keep contract negotiations away from the media but this guy is running to the media and hoping to leverage that. Hope it's mostly the agent pulling the strings and Leonard fires his ass soon.

    He sounds like he wants to make a name for himself as a power broker. Looking at his client list, he mostly represents bottom of the barrel players and probably sees Leonard as his ticket to the big time. It was obvious from the moment the finals ended with him trotting out Leonard to all the big media outlets trying to get blast Leonard's brand everywhere.

    I can't help but think he wants to bring Leonard to a big market like LA, Boston, or NY for a selfish career gain. With the restricted free agency, he might push Leonard hard to sign a short term contract offer and have the Spurs match. Then push Leonard to another team after that contract ends. I don't think we've heard the last of him.

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    When you sign with the Spurs, you get additional benefits than most other teams.

    -50 win team
    -Deep playoff run
    -Lots of rest
    -Minimum distractions
    -Best coach and FO of the NBA
    -We take care of our own

    I would take 14mil for 4 years if I was Kawhi. Lots of benefits when you play here.
    I would take my market value of a max deal. LOL everyone expecting athletes to take pay cuts. They have short careers. They don't have tax loopholes like hedge fund managers and CEOs who can pay a capital gains tax instead of an income tax. They have talents no one else in the world does and get paid on the merit of their skills and expected future production, not on having friends in high places.

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    The Spurs' team philosophy has always been about teamwork and sacrificing for the greater good. I sincerely hope Brian Eflus' personal ambitions for wealth and power don't veer Kawhi away from that philosophy.

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    The Spurs' team philosophy has always been about teamwork and sacrificing for the greater good. I sincerely hope Brian Eflus' personal ambitions for wealth and power don't veer Kawhi away from that philosophy.
    Tim Duncan took max. David Robinson took most of the capspace in 2001. Sacrificing your numbers on the court for the greater good of the team is one thing, but sacrificing your pay because of your lower numbers is another. Kawhi Leonard's not stupid; he's going to sign a market value contract and the Spurs will happily pay it.

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    Tim Duncan took max. David Robinson took most of the capspace in 2001. Sacrificing your numbers on the court for the greater good of the team is one thing, but sacrificing your pay because of your lower numbers is another. Kawhi Leonard's not stupid; he's going to sign a market value contract and the Spurs will happily pay it.
    First of all Leonard isn't a Duncan / Robinson-type player and he likely never will. But I do agree that his market value is in max territory (especially in this free agent market) and he is well within his right to sign the best offer he can get.

    What I was referring to is his personal at ude. Brian Elfus' comments reek of selfishness and insecurity. I hope that kind of at ude doesn't become a negative influence on Kawhi.

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    Kawhi isn't going to take a pay cut, maybe if guys like Duncan, Manu and Parker were in their prime things would be different. The reality is the Spurs future is uncertain, Duncan and Manu aren't sticking around much longer and who knows how long Pop will stick around. He'll be getting the max next year, the question is which team will be paying him.

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    Kawhi isn't going to take a pay cut, maybe if guys like Duncan, Manu and Parker were in their prime things would be different. The reality is the Spurs future is uncertain, Duncan and Manu aren't sticking around much longer and who knows how long Pop will stick around. He'll be getting the max next year, the question is which team will be paying him.
    The Spurs will be paying, the only question is the length of the contract.

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    Tony and Manu (in their prime) never earned more than 16 mill a year and some people here wants Kawhi earns 90 mill for 5 years? LOL

    I Like Kawhi but he can't earn that averaging 13 points per game..
    The Cap is also a higher now

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    There were posters here that thought Mills would get 8-10 Mil per. Didn't happen.
    Mills' injury probably had something to do with that.

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    Leonard is so going to sign a Parsons like deal next summer. Spurs probably match but only have him short term.
    Agree. That's gonna happen.
    There is not incentive for Leonard to stay in SA after 2017, no Tim/Pop/Manu, a small market/rebuilding team, and he'll have the opportunity to play for a real contender in a big market (which is supposedly his agent wants)

    There is no "dangerous game" here. People are clearly deluisional, especially this agent, if he can't understand simple business. Throwing a tantruam because you don't get exactly what you want, when you want it is a losing game. If the risk is that Kawhi will sign a "Parson's Deal", then there's not much risk. He'll get to FA sooner and if he's proved he's worth more money by then (and he's willing to risk longer term security by taking a 2-3 year deal) then the Spurs would gladly pay. If he has sour grapes 2 years later after all the Spurs have proven as an organization, trade his ass.
    He doesn't need to prove anything. Thompson, Parsons, Hayward aren't better players than Kawhi and the market said they're max players. Sure, the Spurs would gladly pay but why Kawhi will want to stay in SA after 2017 if he can sign with a better team than the rebuilding Spurs.

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    Agree. That's gonna happen.
    There is not incentive for Leonard to stay in SA after 2017, no Tim/Pop/Manu, a small market/rebuilding team, and he'll have the opportunity to play for a real contender in a big market (which is supposedly his agent wants)
    If Leonard is truly the cornerstone of the franchise, why would he want to leave? Leonard is supposedly the player you build around. Looking forward to the new big three already... Leonard, Green and Splitter.

    He doesn't need to prove anything. Thompson, Parsons, Hayward aren't better players than Kawhi and the market said they're max players. Sure, the Spurs would gladly pay but why Kawhi will want to stay in SA after 2017 if he can sign with a better team than the rebuilding Spurs.
    Does three wrongs make a right? Klay didn't have a market because he never made it to free agency. I know a player who didn't get a max contract... Lance Stephenson

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    Lance 13.8/7.2/4.6
    Kawhi 12.8/6.2/2.0

    It's not a slam dunk he gets the max if he doesn't improve over his first three years and show more consistency, especially on offense.
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    Lance 13.8/7.2/4.6
    Kawhi 12.8/6.2/2.0

    It's not a slam dunk he gets the max if he doesn't improve over his first three years and show more consistency, especially on offense.
    a) teams know the spurs prohibit players from ac ulating huge totals
    b) everybody watched the playoffs the last 2 years

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    a) teams know the spurs prohibit players from ac ulating huge totals
    b) everybody watched the playoffs the last 2 years
    Lol, now that's funny. So does Indiana...everybody knows this. BTW, TP averaged 23 PPG last season. You need a bigger sample size than two playoff series.

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    If Leonard is truly the cornerstone of the franchise, why would he want to leave? Leonard is supposedly the player you build around. Looking forward to the new big three already... Leonard, Green and Splitter.
    You are kidding me, right? Big markets are big money. It's not only about a big NBA contract, it's about all attention and extra-money you make playing on a big market team...Why he would want to be the face of a rebuilding franchise/part of Big3, when he can play after 2017 in LA or NY.

    I know a player who didn't get a max contract... Lance Stephenson

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    Lance 13.8/7.2/4.6
    Kawhi 12.8/6.2/2.0
    Sorry, I won't spend my time reading a guy who thinks Stephenson and Leonard are basically the same player...

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    23ppg last season

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    You are kidding me, right? Big markets are big money. It's not only about a big NBA contract, it's about all attention and extra-money you make playing on a big market team...Why he would want to be the face of a rebuilding franchise/part of Big3, when he can play after 2017 in LA or NY.



    Sorry, I won't spend my time reading a guy who thinks Stephenson and Leonard are basically the same player...
    a.] They won't be rebuilding. They'll have Kawhi Leonard and a nucleus that surrounds him. Duncan didn't leave when Robinson retired. Parker was a s of the player he is now and he could have left to go to a bigger market. Durant is still in OKC. Btw, there's a salary cap so there is no extra money. Since when is Kawhi an attention ?

    b.] Sorry, stats talk whether you like it or not. Small market teams don't hand out max deals without seeing some results. The Spurs in particular, won't hand out a max based on good intentions and hopeful potential.
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    23ppg last season
    I accidently looked at this year. 6 years in his career he averaged more than 18 ppg.

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    Our max contract player doing work so far. +19

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    Our max contract player doing work so far. +19
    And he has all the motivation in the world.

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    And he has all the motivation in the world.
    He should take more shots though...The Spurs wasted so many possessions overpassing

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    He should take more shots though...The Spurs wasted so many possessions overpassing
    In due time...

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