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    I understand what you are saying, but I actually do enjoy this kind of thing. It is almost like a morning cup of coffee for me.
    Then I understand where you're coming from.

    I do the same thing on here.

    And I love slinging the back in chumps, blakes, and others faces, when they try to sling at me and others.

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    1. Public school is only an option. You understand what an option is right? It does not matter if it is public, private or home. School is school. If public schools were Muslim, I wouldn't care. If private schools were Muslim, I still wouldn't care. Is exploring the options available to you really that hard to do? My argument isn't confined to just a public school. It is based on school in general. If the children were in a private school with one dominant religion, wouldn't the cir stances still be the same? You still have a 5 children who are of a minority faith or belief.
    Wow. You really don't understand the difference between public and private schools and what you legally can and can't do as far as religion goes.

    And no, private school isn't an option for everyone.


    2. The argument is that there are limits to how time functions in our linear timeline. You cannot reverse and it doesn't repeat, has beginning and has end as space time theorums indicate. This requires some kind of cause. In geometric time, there is no beginning and there is no end. The necessity of creation no longer exists within the dimensions of geometric time as unlike our universe, things do not require a cause to exist. Therefore God could dwell within geometric time and affect the physical universe as we know it. That is the argument Dr. Ross was making using scientific evidences to explain how God could exist before the big bang and not require creation himself.
    meh. That's just him making up his own idea of what happened before the big bang.

    And his idea has no more merit than me saying spaghetti monster was there before the big bang.

    Nothing to debate there.

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    If you watched that video I posted, you can see that there are theists that are currently trying to test or develop tests to test such a hypothesis. I guess making assumptions that the existence of God will never be able to be tested is fun I guess.
    You like to put the cart before the horse. Trying is fine but it's what makes you different from empirical science.

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    Wow. You really don't understand the difference between public and private schools and what you legally can and can't do as far as religion goes.

    And no, private school isn't an option for everyone.



    meh. That's just him making up his own idea of what happened before the big bang.

    And his idea has no more merit than me saying spaghetti monster was there before the big bang.

    Nothing to debate there.
    1. You can't be serious. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to prove that you cannot face facts and try to make an argument of private vs. public to attack my credibility on the matter? I am a parent and have to have a clue on how the education system works. If that isn't enough to satisfy your ignorance, both of my parents are educators. Still not enough? 3 of my siblings are educators. Still not enough? 2 of my aunts are educators. Still not enough? Their parents were educators.

    I admire them all even more for having to deal with this kind of smugness face to face.

    2. Once again, that is why you should watch the entire video to see how the conclusion is formed. It is ok though. Keep being an atheist sheep and blind yourself to scientific evidence all for the sake of popularity and a small taste of significance. Wait, atheists love science. Well, I am not sure what the kind of sheep you would be. Maybe you would be a spaghetti monster.

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    i never said we should stop looking, but it would be an extraordinary claim to make

    And then what?

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    I understand what you are saying, but I actually do enjoy this kind of thing. It is almost like a morning cup of coffee for me.
    You do see how I treat you like a normal person and completely different than them I hope. It should be obvious that I treated Chinook the same way until he started going back and taking the double positions. I am fairly certain seeing how they're on each other's friends list that that xmas is chinook or they know each other irl. I am very hostile towards people that try deceit.

    Notice how even in the 'x is trolling' discussion, xmas will take any and all positions available to argue logical consistency be damned. He will troll for days and then when people start getting banned start getting more frantic and doing 'I'm not trolling they are trolling."

    Same thing with the defintion of category. Chinook at the end here claims he knew what the definition was the entire time and at the same time knew that I knew but for two days he was calling me an idiot and how I should look up categorical in the dictionary.

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    You like to put the cart before the horse. Trying is fine but it's what makes you different from empirical science.
    I am a rationalist by nature. I do not ignore empirical science though. I just do not want to jump to a conclusion when there is no empirical conclusion to the hypothesis of God exists.

    Besides, empirical evidence is to be had by both sides of the hypothesis. And from my standpoint, I rationalize that the empirical evidence I have gathered thus far (either by my own experiences or those of another) leads to the answer of God existing. Hence the hypothesis of a universe created by God.
    Last edited by xellos88330; 11-01-2014 at 03:46 PM.

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    You do see how I treat you like a normal person and completely different than them I hope. It should be obvious that I treated Chinook the same way until he started going back and taking the double positions. I am fairly certain seeing how they're on each other's friends list that that xmas is chinook or they know each other irl. I am very hostile towards people that try deceit.

    Notice how even in the 'x is trolling' discussion, xmas will take any and all positions available to argue logical consistency be damned. He will troll for days and then when people start getting banned start getting more frantic and doing 'I'm not trolling they are trolling."

    Same thing with the defintion of category. Chinook at the end here claims he knew what the definition was the entire time and at the same time knew that I knew but for two days he was calling me an idiot and how I should look up categorical in the dictionary.
    None of your discussion with Chinook or Xmas involved me that I am aware of. So no problems here.

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    FuzzyLumpkins do you have a job or life outside SpursTalk, HuffingtonPost, reddit and 4chan, tbh?..We all know you're a 30+ year old pothead loser still living in momma's basement..I still don't get why you continue to come back to a thread that you got your ass handed to you in..have some dignity..whatever is left of it..go do something productive that benefits society, get laid, etc..

    This thread is a train wreck, but the long and short of it appears to be that chinook has done some ridiculous mental gymnastics in order to justify his default belief in god, then claims that anybody that hasn't done that same "work" is lazy. Meh.
    FuzzyLumpkins alter account bumping a thread 5 hours later after Fuzzy thought he owned Chinook and TSA in a weak ty take about his learning of words in Kindergarten as if that somehow saves his ass..

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    1. You can't be serious. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to prove that you cannot face facts and try to make an argument of private vs. public to attack my credibility on the matter? I am a parent and have to have a clue on how the education system works. If that isn't enough to satisfy your ignorance, both of my parents are educators. Still not enough? 3 of my siblings are educators. Still not enough? 2 of my aunts are educators. Still not enough? Their parents were educators.

    I admire them all even more for having to deal with this kind of smugness face to face.
    Well then you should ask them why it would be wrong for the 995 to push their religious views on the 5 non-religious kids in a public school .

    It obviously would mean more coming from them than me.

    ....or you could Google it.

    2. Once again, that is why you should watch the entire video to see how the conclusion is formed. It is ok though. Keep being an atheist sheep and blind yourself to scientific evidence all for the sake of popularity and a small taste of significance. Wait, atheists love science. Well, I am not sure what the kind of sheep you would be. Maybe you would be a spaghetti monster.
    Or you could give a conclusion here instead of begging me to watch it.

    Which I'm not going to. And neither is anyone else.

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    FuzzyLumpkins do you have a job or life outside SpursTalk, HuffingtonPost, reddit and 4chan, tbh?..We all know you're a 30+ year old pothead loser still living in momma's basement..I still don't get why you continue to come back to a thread that you got your ass handed to you in..have some dignity..whatever is left of it..go do something productive that benefits society, get laid, etc..


    FuzzyLumpkins alter account bumping a thread 5 hours later after Fuzzy thought he owned Chinook and TSA in a weak ty take about his learning of words in Kindergarten as if that somehow saves his ass..
    This post reeks of salt.

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    This post reeks of salt.
    Nah this one does..addressing a post out of nowhere that doesn't even concern you..

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    Nah this one does..addressing a post out of nowhere that doesn't even concern you..
    Oh you mean like how you came out of nowhere to talk about fuzzy.

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    FuzzyLumpkins do you have a job or life outside SpursTalk, HuffingtonPost, reddit and 4chan, tbh?..We all know you're a 30+ year old pothead loser still living in momma's basement..I still don't get why you continue to come back to a thread that you got your ass handed to you in..have some dignity..whatever is left of it..go do something productive that benefits society, get laid, etc..


    FuzzyLumpkins alter account bumping a thread 5 hours later after Fuzzy thought he owned Chinook and TSA in a weak ty take about his learning of words in Kindergarten as if that somehow saves his ass..
    Nice story.

    My parents are dead and I only have one account. I live where I live and I wasn't here for the gnsf bonanza. You have always struck me as white trash living in a trailer tbh.

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    The peanut gallery is great. None of you guys ever have anything constructive to say. I get that I am cynic myself but you guys guys are a bunch of nihilist dimwits. Talk about guns or how minorities are responsible for crime then yeah but don't you dare try and talk smart. A true tribute to the stupid.

    There are three of you lackwits that chimed in on the categories debate before I finally had to post the what was to me very obvious in the actual definition of the word. You people's reading skills suck.

    When I was in kindergarten our teacher had these screw cabinets that they put all the various suffix's and prefix's into and that is how I learned how to learn words. That was the first time I remember learning about the specific subject at hand.

    I'm just writing what comes to mind for the most part. I can talk about asymptotes and convolution all day too. I picked that up in college.

    At the end, how can you really say that considering how you spend your time at the political forum? You are one to often cite articles that you don't understand or where the headline mislead you as to content as you spam your google/email/fb/rss.
    This post reeks of salt.
    There's the shaker. I guess he identified with who I was talking about.

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    Oh you mean like how you came out of nowhere to talk about fuzzy.
    I've been calling him out for his during the entire existence of this thread..go back and read, you semen shielding cuck..

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    Nice story.

    My parents are dead and I only have one account. I live where I live and I wasn't here for the gnsf bonanza.
    So on top of living off government handouts, you also reap the benefit of living in dead mommeh and daddeh's home you pothead bum?..you're a bigger piece of than I thought, tbh..

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    Oh you mean like how you came out of nowhere to talk about fuzzy.
    He just didn't want to quote the post above or people would see it.

    Schadenfreude is bad but this is too easy.

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    I've been calling him out for his during the entire existence of this thread..go back and read, you semen shielding cuck..
    sure. carry on with your non-salty obsession with fuzzy.

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    So on top of living off government handouts, you also reap the benefit of living in dead mommeh and daddeh's home you pothead bum?..you're a bigger piece of than I thought, tbh..
    so what point of that made you this mad? Let me know while it's fresh.

    Was it the nihilist dimwit no construction? Minorities and guns? Poor reading skills? Spam posting?

    Or was it the whole that was required?

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    I like how this got tried to avoid my criticism of his..too easy, tbh..

    Oh , watch out his alt account has signed in to gather up with the other lib semen shields..

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    I like how this got tried to avoid my criticism of his..too easy, tbh..

    Oh , watch out his alt account has signed in to gather up with the other lib semen shields..
    That is because you are flailing. You are upset because I criticized you and are trying desperately to come up with something to try and hurt me. Why acknowledge it when you doing it makes you looks so desperate?

    Did I hurt you?

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    ^pothead who arms his internet arguments with Google and Wikipedia going with the "did I hurt you; you mad!" Internet white flag, tbh..Big Dog, not around much anymore but still putting these lib s into the blender, tbh..

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    Well then you should ask them why it would be wrong for the 995 to push their religious views on the 5 non-religious kids in a public school .

    It obviously would mean more coming from them than me.

    ....or you could Google it.
    The answer is simple. Prayer was removed from school in the 1960's. Look at the number of teenage pregnancies since then. Look at the number of rapes committed by teens. Look at the number of dropouts. Look at the number of kids shooting up schools. Look at society now. Since the numbers were steady pre prayer, it is only logical to conclude that the removal of prayer from school has a direct correlation with these cir stances.

    Or you could give a conclusion here instead of begging me to watch it.

    Which I'm not going to. And neither is anyone else.
    LOL!!! Begging? You can't be serious. If you do see my instructing you to watch a video as "begging" you sir seem to have a slight case of megalomania. The video has information within that will present to you the scientific case for the existence of God. If I were to explain it, it might very well be beyond your capability to even understand. The video puts the evidence into words much more eloquently than I could. Since your own personal pride or laziness prevents you from expanding your knowledge of recent scientific developments, I reject any notion of you being a "high IQ" atheist who truly understands their views.

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    ^pothead who arms his internet arguments with Google and Wikipedia going with the "did I hurt you; you mad!" Internet white flag, tbh..Big Dog, not around much anymore but still putting these lib s into the blender, tbh..
    It's saturday and I am high as , nazi. Does that make you mad too?

    You seem to be a very angry person. Have you explored why it is that you are so angry all the time?

    and that is another thing: your stealth posting and not quoting me after the bolded bnsf callout as you try and duck and dodge is weak as , holmes.

    You're dumb and angry at people that have nothing to do with your cir stance. Try some introspection, mental midget.

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