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    Again people with limited thinking are always going to ask the same questions and its frustration to those who don't suffer from limited thinking.
    Uh-huh.

    I'm sure if you read the countless Creation,Evolution, age of earth topics posted here at ST you will have most of the answers you seek.
    who knew?

    or you can wait until I'm not at work posting from my phone if you wish to discuss it further.
    Wouldn't want you crashing the golf cart. Carry on.

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    The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

    Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

    Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

    “When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

    He added: “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment."

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    I don't understand why the media is going ape over Pope Francis believing in evolution, tbh.

    Evolution has been accepted as scientific fact since 1870, about a decade after Charles Darwin published The Origin of Species. Anyone with half a brain acknowledges that evolution is true. The fact that so many people are so surprised that Pope Francis does so too shows how low they've set the bar for him.

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    If you want to have a live debate i'm all for it.

    You backed down around two years ago remember?



    who knew?
    Science knew, can't you read they know everything about life. Just not how to cure the Flu Ebola.



    Wouldn't want you crashing the golf cart. Carry on.
    I never drive while texting / posting

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    it's not about my mind. its about the positions you have taken.
    And because you can't figure me out your ego will continue to feed your curiosity to the point where you finally publicly live @ST accept AD and join the MITeam

    after all you seem to take an interest.

    you don't claim there is a creator/designer. that is an atheistic position, plain and simple
    In your limited thinking mind. psssssst! I thought we through all this two pages back.

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    I don't understand why the media is going ape over Pope Francis believing in evolution, tbh.

    Evolution has been accepted as scientific fact since 1870, about a decade after Charles Darwin published The Origin of Species. Anyone with half a brain acknowledges that evolution is true. The fact that so many people are so surprised that Pope Francis does so too shows how low they've set the bar for him.
    low-brow, low-wage, low-info Bible-humpers set the bar low, not "people" in general.

    The Pope is still an influential figure, going back a 1000 years. There is only one CC, not 1000s of fractured, often bizarro, sects of huckstering Protestantism.

    His stand on evolution isn't revolutionary. The CC has for a long time accepted "mitigated" biological/human evolution where God steps in to infuse the soul ( ). That's clearly way ahead of the Bible-humping creationists.

    However, at the recent bishops' hangout, he proposed to his hater bishops, mimicking the man-made hate of the Christian Taliban, to think about gays and divorced people more charitably. THAT IS, yet again for him, revolutionary. I hope Fran can stick around for long time.

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    I don't understand why the media is going ape over Pope Francis believing in evolution, tbh.
    Your from down under right, Australia?

    The Pope supporting Evolution is like your Crocodile Dundee supporting a ban on all steak knives.




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    Your from down under right, Australia?

    The Pope supporting Evolution is like your Crocodile Dundee supporting a ban on all steak knives.




    I rather buy a RatCoon souvenir key chain from ChumpDumper at the next Club gtg
    not really. pope john paul II said the same thing. you must have been passed out during this time

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    Evolution has been accepted as scientific fact since 1870, about a decade after Charles Darwin published The Origin of Species.

    So if Darwin dies at birth your now a Creationist? You know how many books were published before Darwin? I could have beat Darwin to the punch and published a book called The Species of Origin were man started out as an Ape and slowly Devolved into an apelike creature who had bladder probblems so he was know as the pissing Link!

    Sorry about that....{rolling rock) back on topic I do have a serious question for you forget Creation vs Evolution for a few seconds....

    tell me if you really believe in your DNA it will show your Mother at one time had sex with a hairy monkey?

    You really buy into Ape to Man "Evolution" with all the DNA knowledge we have today?

    I know Evolutionist back in the 70s that were looked at as Ignorant assholes could you with what we know today thanks to Science how would those people feel today?

    It would blow they're minds.

    Just as your mind will be blown when I breakdown everything wrong with supporting Darwin if you want your call. esse

    ing Darwin back peddling before his death.










    Anyone with half a brain acknowledges that evolution is true.
    What does that say about the ones who have a whole brain and still acknowledges that evolution is true?



    The fact that so many people are so surprised that Pope Francis does so too shows how low they've set the bar for him.
    Is that a wet bar?
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    Your from down under right, Australia?

    The Pope supporting Evolution is like your Crocodile Dundee supporting a ban on all steak knives.




    I rather buy a RatCoon souvenir key chain from ChumpDumper at the next Club gtg
    I'm not from Australia. I just happen to be studying there right now.

    So if Darwin dies at birth your now a Creationist? You know how many books were published before Darwin? I could have beat Darwin to the punch and published a book called The Species of Origin were man started out as an Ape and slowly Devolved into an apelike creature who had bladder probblems so he was know as the pissing Link!
    Hypothesis contrary to fact.

    Sorry about that....{rolling rock) back on topic I do have a serious question for you forget Creation vs Evolution for a few seconds....

    tell me if you really believe in your DNA it will show your Mother at one time had sex with a hairy monkey?

    You rewally buy into Ape to Man "Evoulution" with all the DNA knowledged we have today?
    That's one of the common misconceptions about evolution. sapiens did not interbreed with chimpanzees or gorillas. We merely share a common ancestor. There's a difference.

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    I'm not from Australia. I just happen to be studying there right now.
    Then I apologize I was going by your Avatar info Location Australia you can renounce your heritage or zip code at any time just update your profile so I don't mistake you as an Aussie.


    Hypothesis contrary to fact.
    ....

    That's one of the common misconceptions about evolution. sapiens did not interbreed with chimpanzees or gorillas. We merely share a common ancestor. There's a difference.
    where is the fossil?

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    And because you can't figure me out your ego will continue to feed your curiosity to the point where you finally publicly live @ST accept AD and join the MITeam

    after all you seem to take an interest.



    In your limited thinking mind. psssssst! I thought we through all this two pages back.
    nah, ur just trying to weasel out of it. you want to be in a fairy world where you can claim you aren't atheist and simultaneously not claim a deity

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    We have how many billions of different opinions on all this?

    While entertaining to watch this...."I'm the one with the real answer".......it never goes anywhere. Nobody ever..."ok you changed my mind"...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One more time.

    I/me....have no idea at all about how all this came about and neither does anyone else. So ya grab onto....theories...or religious beliefs none of which have ever been proven. Being it takes so many different factors to pull this off I think it's foolish to not see how it took a designer. To think it all came about by chance......how could it?

    I'm no Christian, I just see their belief in that designer as being a good idea, just not that designer and all the siliness we see in the Bible. Obviously just some author similar to Homer pulling the biggest hoax of all time, not unlike the Koran.

    Many years after WWIII and the earth is nothing more than a desolate place full of gases and waste, a race of aliens arrive, while going thru the rubble they come across a charred Superman comic book. Need I go on?
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    If you want to have a live debate i'm all for it.
    You backed down around two years ago remember?
    Nothing changed in that interval. There needs to be something worth debating. Since you haven't clearly outlined your position on the matter there's nothing to discuss tbh. I strongly suspect that pattern will continue ad-infinitum.

    Science knew, can't you read they know everything about life. Just not how to cure the Flu Ebola.
    No money in a cure tbh. You exist as a payday for Big Pharma.

    I never drive while texting / posting
    I'm inclined to buy you a car.......

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    Nothing changed in that interval. There needs to be something worth debating. Since you haven't clearly outlined your position on the matter there's nothing to discuss tbh. I strongly suspect that pattern will continue ad-infinitum.
    So is that another no?



    No money in a cure tbh. You exist as a payday for Big Pharma.
    True, how about Big Pharma pay for Evolution to be taught in schools instead of our tax dollars.


    I'm inclined to buy you a car.......
    Can you remove the airbags first?

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    ^atheist

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    And that bothers you?

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    And that bothers you?
    not at all. i find it to be a rational position, one of the few we share

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    Then answer this question....

    If DNA always existed why would we need Evolution? Do you need to have a sex with a monkey and wait at least 20 Million years to know if its a boy or a girl?

    How do you get a Human from a fish? Please explain it to me.

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    Then answer this question....

    If DNA always existed why would we need Evolution? Do you need to have a sex with a monkey and wait at least 20 Million years to know if its a boy or a girl?

    How do you get a Human from a fish? Please explain it to me.
    why are you changing the topic from theism/atheism to evolution?

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    why are you changing the topic from theism/atheism to evolution?

    Was just trying to research you as a poster I have never met in person and maybe figure out your motives for being in this topic and you satisfied my curiosity.


    continue to argue about about coke vs Pepsi

    It doesn't matter.... AD supporters drink Dr. Pepper.




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    Was just trying to research you as a poster I have never met in person and maybe figure out your motives for being in this topic and you satisfied my curiosity.


    continue to argue about about coke vs Pepsi

    It doesn't matter.... AD supporters drink Dr. Pepper.



    theism/atheism and evolution/non-evolution are 2 entirely different debates

    we disagree on the evolution topic, but we are on the same page when it comes to atheism . neither of us claim the existence of a god/creator/designer

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    theism/atheism and evolution/non-evolution are 2 entirely different debates

    we disagree on the evolution topic, but we are on the same page when it comes to atheism . neither of us claim the existence of a god/creator/designer
    Glad to see some rationality from you, which is always appreciated, by me anyway.

    I don't mind some good natured ribbing on my beliefs on here by the way, it goes with the territory.

    Just because we disagree on theology does not mean we disagree on evolution.

    But on every issue there are small quirks that promote differences of opinion.

    At least we can respectfully disagree without it turning into an ignorant pissing contest, which you and Mouse rarely engage in as well.

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    we are on the same page when it comes to atheism . neither of us claim the existence of a god/creator/designer
    Just because we don"t "claim" a creator or designer does that mean we rule it out completely?

    And if so what does that make us?
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    Just because we don"t "claim" a creator or designer does that mean we rule it out completely?

    And if so what does that make is?
    I don't rule it out completely either. Atheists generally don't.

    theists claim a creator. Atheists don't. That's really the defining line. In terms you'd be more sympathetic to, atheists are like skeptics

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