No, it's not incorrect, it's a difference of opinion, like I just ing said. I didn't call your opinion incorrect, Kobe's great and has many fans for legit reasons. It doesn't mean I have to be one in this specific hypothetical cirumstance
I read it, but it must clearly be incorrect, because if he is so cancerous, I find it hard to believe he would have been able to win consecutive les multiple times with completely overhauled squads. Can you show me a superstar player that was a cancer, that won more than 1 championship? Or even 1 championship, period?
No, it's not incorrect, it's a difference of opinion, like I just ing said. I didn't call your opinion incorrect, Kobe's great and has many fans for legit reasons. It doesn't mean I have to be one in this specific hypothetical cirumstance
I didn't ask you to be a fan, or to acknowledge Kobe's greatness. I simply asked you to prove how he is such a cancer, and prove how someone that is such a terrible, cancerous teammate, managed to be a superstar player on 5 championship teams. I also asked to show me someone who was a superstar player that was cancerous that had a large part in leading a team to championships?
When someone is called a cancer, they completely divide a team to the point that they severely underperform. Kobe is called a cancer, but somehow was a major part of 5 championship teams. Something isn't adding up, and I simply would like a plausible explanation as to how this could be possible.
Touche, I agree he is a beast like I said, but I think there are some major historical events pointing towards him being a cancer, including his earliest pre draft demands, his calling out of shaq/rape allegations, and his egotistical playstyle, which is obviously influenced by the media. I'm actually a pretty big Lakers fan for being SA born, I watched a lot of their games in 09 and 10, which is why I say it's merely a difference in opinion.
Old enough to know that Shaq, Horry, Fisher, MVPau, Bynum, and Odom led those teams to championships in spite of Kirby.
You just answered my question. Also, as a clipper fan unless you're Billy Crystal you're young as being a clipper fan now. Hence zero perspective. Coupled with almost 30k posts....sadness.![]()
You still have not proven how he is such a terrible cancerous part of a team. What is your definition of a team cancer? If it is merely someone who some people may find it tough to get along with, and can act childish and egotistical (which is exactly how you are describing him), then it sounds like you are describing about 90% of superstars in NBA history, which then going back to the original argument of taking West and Gervin over him on an all time greats team, is absolutely asinine because he is a better basketball player than both of them in basically every phase of the game, proving that choosing such players would be merely making an emotional choice, as compared to a choice that has actual basketball reasoning behind it. Not that I would expect any less from a spurfan, tbqh considering every new player the spurs draft is immediately designated as Rodman 2.0, MJ 3.0, Lebron 4.0, and Wilt 5.0.
Way to date yourself.
Don't be a bitter old man, tbh..
LeBron
Jordan
McGrady
Nowitzki
Duncan
tbh
phew that offense would be pretty rough to deal with
Splitter neutralizes Dirk
Leonard negates LeBron
Playoffs eliminate Tmac
Duncan and Jordan would do a lot of the heavy lifting
Thomas
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Chamberlain
According to your player dating, youre older than me.
Magic
Jordan
James
Duncan
Chamberlain
Robertson
West
Irving
Malone
Kareem
Players who were known cancers but won at least one championship as an integral member
Earl Monroe
Rasheed Wallace
Dennis rodman
Players who had a questionable reputation who could conceivably divide a locker room but won at least one championship.
Mark Aguirre
Isiah Thomas
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Michael Jordan
Shaq
Payton
Mad max
I wouldn't go so far as to call the second group of players cancers but they most definitely were not the best influence in the locker room.
Players who divide a locker room can still win rings, it's the coaches job to reign them in and let the team shine onthe court. Phil Jackson and chuck daly were some of the best who ever did it.
Kobe isn't better than west in all aspects of the game. I agree he is better than gervin in everything though.
West was a better orchestrator, shooter and clutch player.
The classic "a few homer spurstalk fans get overhyped about prospects and thus they're collectively a stupid fanbase" rebuttal. Nice.
Kobe's only fault is he acted like Jordan in the age of social media where the littlest of slights can be reported in a network of computers and be overblown by social media "pundits" who really have no idea what happened.
Jordan was a complete ass on and off the court, but he charmed the media so well that he looked like a god in front of everyone. Kobe is a wysiwyg ass on and off the court. But they both won multiple championships on stacked teams.
PS: I have never seen a fan base so asshurt towards Kobe as the Spurs fan base. I mean... nobody.
Non-apologetic. With pride.
The end justifies the means imho. If someone led my team to one or multiple championships I'd surely not consider him a cancer. Some players may be called time bombs, they may be threats to your locker room atmosphere but good coaches will always find ways to make them contribute, they're double-edged swords at worst imho.
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