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    Well, except for the fact that Kawhi dominates Klay Thompson in virtually every single metric, and has also elevated all his metrics in the playoffs, while Thompson has been a huge playoff choker in both years, so far..

    A player with a sub-15 PER with high usage..

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    He did outplay Kobe. Scored more on less shots. but in the third Kobe did torch him and Klay gave right back. And I did not see anything Harlem said about an amazing performance, he said "torched". Which you right was meant as a point in Harlems' Klay's overrated defense he made earlier but was also a dig at Kobe ...how can this nicca's defense be good if he is getting torched by TOSB Kobe?

    Come on Red you been here long enough to be able to read between the lines.






    Also individual plus/minus is as useless as PER ... plus/minus by rotations are far more useful than individual plus/minus numbers.
    Because even a TOSB Kobe can go off for a quarter.... 9/14 in the 3rd, 3/14 in quarters 1,2 and 4.

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    If I were to play devil's advocate for a second, one series or two shouldn't change the perception of a player that's starting his 4th season in the league. Are we to suggest Leonard is overrated? Sure he's a good defensive player but, his offensive game is way too inconsistent to justify a max contract. Of course, there's always the chance he can get better and live up to the contract he'll sign in the offseason, But right now, he's overrated, and he's been overrated for a couple of seasons now, IMO.

    The term "overrated" gets thrown around too loosely in this forum to the point where it's pretty much lost all its meaning.
    Kawhi's production reconcile with the narrative, tbh... Klay does not. Could that change? Sure. Right now it doesn't. So it's overrated.

    What they signed for or will sign for is irrelevant to the "overrated" discussion, IMO. I look at the media praising Klay for his defense, and I'm calling BS. Would be the same if they praised Kawhi for his offense (which, AFAIK, they have not done yet).

    It's all opinion anyways, I'm not going to be offended if somebody disagrees.

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    Nope,

    Klay is a average second option. Hot streak off his great summer bagging Hannah Stocking, playing in the FIBA. He'll cool down and regress to his 14 PER performance soon enough.
    Lemme guess, Bin Harden is better?

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    Glen Rice 2.0 or a poor man's Allan Houston, tbh.

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    Lemme guess, Bin Harden is better?
    Yes, and its not even close. Harden brings you much more than Klay and his 25-1-1 stat lines.

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    Because even a TOSB Kobe can go off for a quarter.... 9/14 in the 3rd, 3/14 in quarters 1,2 and 4.
    I dont disagree, I was just explaining Harlem's point.

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    Yes, and its not even close. Harden brings you much more than Klay and his 25-1-1 stat lines.
    Even if you hate on the way Harden draws contact he applies much more pressure on opposing defenses ... and GB is right it's not close.
    On the other end advantage is clearly Klay's but Im with GB here.

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    Yes, and its not even close. Harden brings you much more than Klay and his 25-1-1 stat lines.
    He's D-Whistlesque. Color me unimpressed.

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    Both are overrated but I respect klay more than mr foodstamps tbh. Sad that that got is the best sg in the league

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    Klay's issue is and has always been inconsistency. Often that can be blamed on not getting touches in the right spots because Curry is a chucker, however that's not always the case. He'll regress to the mean soon enough.

    Let's stop ting ourselves 10 minutes into the 10 day trip.

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    Klay thrives chunking shots against teams that don't play any defense.

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