Just to clear this one point up, no where did I once say or assert that. I simply asked for examples. No assertion was made.telling me to reread your posts when you didn't even read my post correctly
Seems like you have to read your own posts as well.Just to clear this one point up, no where did I once say or assert that. I simply asked for examples. No assertion was made.
And yes, I found two.
the first one I said AFTER you posted the examples of Monroe and Barry, stating that odds are extremely low that superstar cancers win championships. The second one was completely in regards to viewing Kobe as a cancer, and that I can't see him as a cancer when he has done so much winning. However I never once said that it has never happened or impossible in either of those bolded posts, or any other post for that fact.
Show me where I said that a superstar cancer has never won or cannot win championships.
Your entire premise is that Kobe is not a cancer, and that you asked for examples of cancers winning multiple, or even a single championship. Which is an assertion that cancerous superstars do not win championships, because that was used to prove your point that Kobe is not a cancer.
Show me where I said that a superstar cancer has never won or cannot win championships.
I pulled out Monroe (then later Barry) as examples, and the argument moved to the chance being slim to none (despite having at least one as an example, which in itself is already more than none), so the chance Kobe is a cancerous superstar is slim to none.
Stockton over Magic, Isiah or even CP3 ... LOL
stupid cancer talk is stupid ...
Um, no. The only assertion made here, was by you asserting that was my point. I had put no thought into names of people who were cancerous superstars that won championships, but figured the number was incredibly low, if any. Yet not once did I make any statement that no one can or has done it. Point I was making, is that you cannot be a cancer yet somehow be a central figure in 5 championship runs. Funny how you can somehow read into things and decipher points that were never created (ex. me supposedly claiming its 100% impossible to win a championship with a "cancer" on the team), but cannot see the blatantly obvious point I was trying to make.
Revising my list:
PG John Stockton
SG Manu Ginobili
SF Kevin Durant
PF Kevin Garnett
C Tim Duncan
PG Steve Nash
SG Dwyane Wade
SF Kawhi Leonard
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C David Robinson
Bro, how young are you?
Approx 25, tbh..what does that have to do with anything, though?..
Just wondering. Every guy on your list played into the 2000s
I am saying that your assertion is that Kobe is not a cancer, and the logic behind it is that no superstar has ever done what he did win a championship. This is a consistent flow of logic that you have used. If it is not, then what is point of bringing up the argument of superstar cancers? By saying Kobe won 5 championships, and no superstar cancers had ever won more than 1 championship, or even 1 championship, you are asserting that superstar cancers cannot win championships, and since Kobe did, he's not a cancer.Um, no. The only assertion made here, was by you asserting that was my point. I had put no thought into names of people who were cancerous superstars that won championships, but figured the number was incredibly low, if any. Yet not once did I make any statement that no one can or has done it. Point I was making, is that you cannot be a cancer yet somehow be a central figure in 5 championship runs. Funny how you can somehow read into things and decipher points that were never created (ex. me supposedly claiming its 100% impossible to win a championship with a "cancer" on the team), but cannot see the blatantly obvious point I was trying to make.
Last edited by ambchang; 11-05-2014 at 09:09 AM.
Never once did I say that.
Tried to go for incredibly versatile on offense while still being an elite defensive squad with a lot of floor spacing. Dirk gets a lot of flak but in his prime was a good positional defender imho. The inside out game with Duncan would be sick. Always been a fantasy to see prime Dirk/Duncan on the same team.
Hard to put players on the all-time list you've never seen play really and it would look re ed for someone in our age range to be going with a Magic/Jordan/Bird/Kareem/Wilt lineup or something because most of us haven't seen all of them play and there's no point in pretending we have, tbh. Watching classic replays or Finals matches from there eras isn't the same and it's hard to to compare eras to the modern game
Then what is the point of bringing it up? For someone who is so insistent of brief and direct points in a thread, that sure is a pointless and thing to ask.
I think this has already been addressed multiple times and you are now just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's very plainly laid out in multiple posts. For someone who is so insistent of telling others to thoroughly read posts in a thread, that sure is a pointless (and?) thing to ask.
You laid it out, and the reason was to support your point that Kobe is not a cancer because superstar cancers do not win 5 championships.
What did I lay out?
I'm 30 years old. Will then have to go with
Top Squad
PG: Stockton
SG: Jordan
SF: James
PF: Duncan
C: Shaq
B Team
PG: Nash
SG: Kobe
SF: Pippen
PF: Barkley
C: Hakeem
3rd Squad
PG: Payton
SG: Iverson
SF: McGrady
PF: Malone
C: Robinson
4th Squad
PG: Kidd
SG: Wade
SF: Anthony
PF: Rodman
C: Ewing
5th Squad
PG: Tim Hardaway
SG: Reggie
SF: Pierce
PF: Garnet
C: Yao
Honorable Mention:
Webber, Penny, Vince Carter
^
Never saw in their prime Bird, Mullin or Clyde^
i'll take the old-timers' word for it and go with kareem over yao, etc
Kobe is not a cancer because he won 5 championships and no other cancerous superstar won 5 championships. You then challenged others to name a cancerous superstar who won multiple, or even one championship.
Even when shown of the example of Earl Monroe, you argued the chances are slim to none (when one was already shown).
Bird was like a SF version of Duncan. Not overly athletic, but always seems to come up with the right play at the right time. His 1-1 defense was suspect, but he comes up with the key rebound, steals, blocks or defensive plays when needed. One of the best passers of all time. Phenomenal shooter, especially given the era he played in. Plays hard all the time, borderlining on dirty. True alpha. His peak was one of the greatest in NBA history. In the modern NBA (after ABA merger), only Jordan, Shaq and Lebron had a similarly dominant prime.
Mullin had a few really good years in the late 80s early 90s in the crazy Don Nelson run and gun days. He can run all day, and he's got extremely quick hands on defense. He's like a cross between Bird and Ray Allen. Mullin would be a very hot commodity in today's game. If Klay Thomson could get the max, Mullin would easily get his.
Drexler was overshadowed during his days, very athletic player, leader of those phenomenally entertaining Blazers in the late 80s early 90s (kinda like the early 00 Kings, but with less passing and more running). One of my favourite players to watch because of his smooth gliding games. Great court vision and ball handling for a guy his size, can score with the best of them but can also create for others. Just never got over that hump until he teamed up with his old buddy Hakeem in 95.
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