LOL military appreciation nights

[LarryDavid]

In your civilian job, how often have you had to calculate the trajectory of a mortar in order to not hit the soldiers who are calling in the artillery?

Do you know how to properly apply a tourniquet? Or administer an IV? How about performing a needle decompression if a buddy has a tension pneumothorax or applying a seal for a sucking chest wound? What about being able to disassemble and reassemble, fire accurately, and troubleshoot more weapons than you've ever seen up close? How about learning different cultures and learning the local dialect in order to properly communicate with those around you to identify dangerous situations?

But that's just part of your job. I could list any number of professions where you may have to learn things that are outside of your job scope in the scenario that you'll have to complete those tasks. Your list is no more impressive.

To me, it just sounds like jealousy. You'll never admit to it, but you must be intimidated that there are people who believe in higher ideals than you. Whatever you think about the government and whatever you think about the wars that have been fought, you can't disregard the courage that it takes to leave everything you've ever known and embark upon a life-changing adventure that could result in a very quick death. When I was deployed, I thought many times about how I didn't agree with what we were doing, but when you're there, it becomes less about the politics and more about your buddies beside you. If you ever have a daughter, you'll want her to meet a servicemember.

How do you know they believe in higher ideals than I, or any one else on this earth? It's simply a thought. There are countless civilians who have the highest standards of integrity and work ethic who wouldn't think twice about joining the military. What you call courage I call following chain of command. We praise soldiers with courage for risking their lives and deploying, but are supposed to give them a pass when they may kill innocent people, or do something even though they don't "agree with what we were doing"? In both instances they were doing nothing more than following orders. In my opinion, there's nothing courageous about that.

[Brazil]

Yes appreciate a bunch of coward soldiers.

They went into Iraq knowing very well it had no WMDs, however if Iraq did have WMDs they wouldn't dare invade it.

North Korea was showing off it's WMDs live on television, yet all they can do is condemn it and not invade it. My definition of cowards.

Now they face a challenge with ISIS, but this "superpower" is going around the world begging other nations to fight in the frontline, my definition of cowards.

If I was Canada, Turkey, KSA, UAE, Jordan, etc, I would simply tell them "you went into Iraq with a fake WMD stories and created this mess to begin with, now FIX it on your own cowards".

I truly despise american politicians, such evil human devils. And these soldiers are too dumb to be appreciated in the first place.

you have that all mixed up tbh... here you are talking about US government and chiefs of operations not the soldiers who went there believing like everybody the BS they were told.

[webshad]

Canada for example, but they're a bunch of american lap dog with this current conservative government. However the liberals are coming back into power and they don't go to war for america's sake.

Name me another country that massacred the indigenous people, that launched an atomic bomb, that enslaved coloured people for a century, that protects a bunch of bank fraudster that bankrupt the entire world economy, that currently drone strikes children (even it's own citizen young as 14), that can't go a single decade without waging a new war, and much more?

Indeed the America of today is not the America of yesterday. Things need to change and change quickly.

Appreciating dumb ass soldiers that join to serve these politicians is an insult to human intellect.

[milkyway21]

What more thanks and appreciation do they want?[/B]

Just ONE night of appreciation?
You give appreciation to your NBA's Hall of Famers & NBA 50 greatest, all-star MVPs, and you're even buying the tickets to entertain you, so why not the military?

[xmas1997]

you have that all mixed up tbh... here you are talking about US government and chiefs of operations not the soldiers who went there believing like everybody the BS they were told.

You'll never convince them of this, they are ignorant immature punks who feel en led and take it all for granted IMHO.

[webshad]

Wow, such vehemence!

Sure, the politicians are not great, maybe even bad.

But evil human devils?

Such harshness, such animosity!

As bad as they are, name me one country with better.

Canada for example, but they're a bunch of american lap dog with this current conservative government. However the liberals are coming back into power and they don't go to war for america's sake.

Name me another country that massacred the indigenous people, that launched an atomic bomb, that enslaved coloured people for a century, that protects a bunch of bank fraudster that bankrupt the entire world economy, that currently drone strikes children (even it's own citizen young as 14), that can't go a single decade without waging a new war, and much more?

Indeed the America of today is not the America of yesterday. Things need to change and change quickly.

Appreciating dumb ass soldiers that join to serve these politicians is an insult to human intellect.

[webshad]

you have that all mixed up tbh... here you are talking about US government and chiefs of operations not the soldiers who went there believing like everybody the BS they were told.

Exactly my point. Showing appreciation for dumb ass soldiers that join to serve these evil politicians is an insult to human intellect and an encouragement to increase their dumbness.

[xmas1997]

Canada???????????????

Watch out for those VICIOUS Canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!

[webshad]

Canada???????????????

Watch out for those VICIOUS Canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought so, you can't answer, so the best you can do is a fake .

[xmas1997]

I thought so, you can't answer, so the best you can do is a fake .

No, I am just not taking it as seriously as you are.

And you missed the joke about the Canadians, went right over your head.

[midnightpulp]

Canada for example, but they're a bunch of american lap dog with this current conservative government. However the liberals are coming back into power and they don't go to war for america's sake.

Name me another country that massacred the indigenous people, that launched an atomic bomb, that enslaved coloured people for a century, that protects a bunch of bank fraudster that bankrupt the entire world economy, that currently drone strikes children (even it's own citizen young as 14), that can't go a single decade without waging a new war, and much more?

Indeed the America of today is not the America of yesterday. Things need to change and change quickly.

Appreciating dumb ass soldiers that join to serve these politicians is an insult to human intellect.

Name me another country that massacred the indigenous people

Most of the destruction wrought on the Native American people was done by Europeans as they were colonizing the New World. And let's not forget the numerous holocausts throughout history (mostly performed by "progressive" and "civilized" European countries).

that launched an atomic bomb

So you would've preferred a conventional ground invasion? Japan had a standing army of millions (mostly civilians) that would've been nothing more than cannon fodder. You'll probably invoke "but the fallout!" At the time, the consequences of fallout weren't very well understood. Still, dropping the bombs was the correct move in that situation. Also forgive me if I don't weep for Imperial Japan. Read about their exploits in China some time.

that enslaved coloured people for a century

Europeans brought the slaves over. Slavery has also long existed before anyone in the old world even knew North America existed.

that protects a bunch of bank fraudster that bankrupt the entire world economy

The world economy isn't bankrupt.

that currently drone strikes children (even it's own citizen young as 14),

Collateral damage is unfortunate. But the US isn't unique in this regard. In time's past, total war (meaning kill everything and salt the earth) was the M.O.

that can't go a single decade without waging a new war

As I mentioned in another thread, this is statistically the most peaceful time in human history. The US was explicitly non-interventionist at one point, but Europe/Rest of the World couldn't stop slaughtering each other, bringing us into two World Wars that were really none of our business in the first place, until it was made our business (sinking of the Lusitania, Attack on Pearl Harbor).

Sure, we're involved in many small scale wars around the globe, but since the US rose to superpower status after World War 2, we saw the fall of the USSR and communism in Eastern Europe, the reunification of Germany, Japan (who we evilly bombed and then occupied) become an economic and technological might (when for most of their history, they lacked behind the Western World in that regard), the invasion of South Korea repelled (they are now an economic and technological might), and most importantly, not one world war.

[webshad]

Most of the destruction wrought on the Native American people was done by Europeans as they were colonizing the New World. And let's not forget the numerous holocausts throughout history (mostly performed by "progressive" and "civilized" European countries).

That’s right, NEVER FORGET 9-11 but let’s just forget about the natives we massacred for our benefits.

So you would've preferred a conventional ground invasion?

Definitely, rather than murdering civilians along with future generations due to the after effect.

Europeans brought the slaves over. Slavery has also long existed before anyone in the old world even knew North America existed.

Riiight, my cuz is the one who brought the girl to the party, I just merely raped her.

The world economy isn't bankrupt.

The 2008-2012 global recessions (which by the way is still ongoing) is directly the cause of the 2007 bank fraud crisis caused by those dirty American politicians and their backers from the financial industry. You can read up on it (by the way there is an excellent do entary from Matt Damon about this fiasco).

The countries in brown are in recession as of 2008-2009

Collateral damage is unfortunate. But the US isn't unique in this regard. In time's past, total war (meaning kill everything and salt the earth) was the M.O.

US is very unique at murdering people via drones strike even violating other nation’s air space.

bringing us into two World Wars

Bringing us into wars even today?

“The United States military is currently deployed to more locations than it has been throughout history” – Dept of Defense

156 countries with US troops present, is that what you call brining us into a world conflict?

Sure, we're involved in many small scale wars around the globe, but since the US rose to superpower status after World War 2, we saw the fall of the USSR and communism in Eastern Europe, the reunification of Germany, Japan (who we evilly bombed and then occupied) become an economic and technological might (when for most of their history, they lacked behind the Western World in that regard), the invasion of South Korea repelled (they are now an economic and technological might), and most importantly, not one world war.

Yes Iraq is definitely flourishing so is Libya.

Now it's the US brining other nations at war, Kerry is going around the world begging other countries to fight ISIS frontline but America will remain behind the scene until it's safe, cowards.

After the Iraq war with the FAKE WMD stories, there's no appreciation for the dumb ass soldiers who sign up to serve the elite, pure moronic.

[Sean Cagney]

Military
Appreciate a "job"
Your fault for joining when something happens

Not sure why everyone has to aprreciate what they do. It's pretty big in the US and i don't get why...

True, fighting the Governments made up wars for their agendas either don't help, especially when lies start them and later on people say what the were we fighting for? Which happens VERY often later from some vets and other folks when they realize the truth.

I know they think they are doing right and protecting and I appreciate that to the fullest, but in the end I am not joining to fight no war the GOVT. makes up to die for what? They just send people over there and create more wars.

After the Iraq war with the FAKE WMD stories, there's no appreciation for the dumb ass soldiers who sign up to serve the elite, pure moronic.

THE ELITE, and that is just it. I agree to the fullest there. NO WAY in I would sign up to fight their wars and die.

[lefty]

Military
Appreciate a "job"
Your fault for joining when something happens

Not sure why everyone has to aprreciate what they do. It's pretty big in the US and i don't get why...

[hehateme]

I care less if people thank me for my time in the military. It gave me stability, structure and drive to succeed. Did my 8 years, got my Masters, got out and went straight to a contracted Federal job making 3x the amount I made in the service. Now I order cucks like mo around daily and laugh because of their lack of motivation and plain whining. Btw mo don't forget to ask if I want some hot or mild sauce the next time I place my order got.

[ajh18]

Philosophically, I think the reason people in this country appreciate the military is because - particularly as a voluntary army - it represents a group of individuals who have voluntarily given up many of the freedoms the rest of us enjoy to act on behalf of the citizenry. Members of the armed forces can't just dress how they want, go where they want, or do what they want. They have to go to extreme measures - including killing and being killed - at the will of the US general population.

You can hate the politicians all you want, but the truth is they are representatives of the will and/or apathy of the citizenry. If people truly hated them, or hated the corporations and interests that fund them, they could take action to change things. But just last week we had the lowest voter turnout in 70 years. Are many of those in office selfish and motivated by special interests? Sure. But that's our fault for not taking action to get them out, and continuing to buy the products and services that the special interests they're beholden to offer. The military serves these individuals because the politicians are supposed to represent all of us.

The honoring of the military goes to the ideal that we are honoring those who put the will of the people ahead of their own rights, freedoms, and interests. It's not their fault if the people are too weak, apathetic, or disinterested to take action on our own behalf and put into power people who actually reflect what we want.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Damn this Spurs thread is ing insightful.

"let's all hate on each other and waste bandwidth!"

[lefty]

I care less if people thank me for my time in the military. It gave me stability, structure and drive to succeed. Did my 8 years, got my Masters, got out and went straight to a contracted Federal job making 3x the amount I made in the service. Now I order cucks like mo around daily and laugh because of their lack of motivation and plain whining. Btw mo don't forget to ask if I want some hot or mild sauce the next time I place my order got.

I didnt go to the army and I can get you to take out the trash and shine my shoes


salty got

[hehateme]

I didnt go to the army and I can get you to take out the trash and shine my shoes


salty got

Nah only thing you'd be doing is gargling on my , semen shield.

[heyheymymy]

I respect our service members and appreciate the commitment, but the misuse of our defense is concerning. it's becoming a machine and it feels like it might not be working in americans best interests anymore. my grandpa is a retired lt. col. west point grad: WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and i absolutely understand the level of selflessness it takes to serve. i just want that might to be used in the correct manner.

i read tavis smileys death of a king where he talks about how MLK Jr. spoke out on vietnam on apr '67 and was dead a year later. he had held off for so long, but as soon as he mentions dissent to actions of war, he's taken out. he calls america the worlds largest purveyor of violence.

our defense money isn't even going to the cause anymore. it's buying AF kids billion dollar toys they are flying around for lockheed and skunkworks in the nevada desert. the AF is just R & D for tech at this point. MQ-1's are creating more terrorists in pakistan than they are killing. it's not even acting in our best interests. just madmen stiring the pot to make money.

[Sean Cagney]

Philosophically, I think the reason people in this country appreciate the military is because - particularly as a voluntary army - it represents a group of individuals who have voluntarily given up many of the freedoms the rest of us enjoy to act on behalf of the citizenry. Members of the armed forces can't just dress how they want, go where they want, or do what they want. They have to go to extreme measures - including killing and being killed - at the will of the US general population.

You can hate the politicians all you want, but the truth is they are representatives of the will and/or apathy of the citizenry. If people truly hated them, or hated the corporations and interests that fund them, they could take action to change things. But just last week we had the lowest voter turnout in 70 years. Are many of those in office selfish and motivated by special interests? Sure. But that's our fault for not taking action to get them out, and continuing to buy the products and services that the special interests they're beholden to offer. The military serves these individuals because the politicians are supposed to represent all of us.

The honoring of the military goes to the ideal that we are honoring those who put the will of the people ahead of their own rights, freedoms, and interests. It's not their fault if the people are too weak, apathetic, or disinterested to take action on our own behalf and put into power people who actually reflect what we want.

The thing is we don't control who is in power and no matter what party honestly they are basically crooks and liars who put on a smile and a suit to get elected then do nothing and do not fulfill the promises they once guaranteed and do whatever they do behind the scenes. Vote or not they put who they want in office alot of times and probably even rig votes for all we know and have an agenda. The sad fact is behind the scenes this is a very crooked country with crooked people running it and voting is not the only problem on our behalf, staying dumb and just accepting things or believing that crap they say on the news etc. (brainwashing) is correct and just lay down. Too many people asleep while standing up in this country and really all over.

I appreciate most of what you said but some I disagree with respectfully.

I respect our service members and appreciate the commitment, but the misuse of our defense is concerning. it's becoming a machine and it feels like it might not be working in americans best interests anymore. my grandpa is a retired lt. col. west point grad: WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and i absolutely understand the level of selflessness it takes to serve. i just want that might to be used in the correct manner.

i read tavis smileys death of a king where he talks about how MLK Jr. spoke out on vietnam on apr '67 and was dead a year later. he had held off for so long, but as soon as he mentions dissent to actions of war, he's taken out. he calls america the worlds largest purveyor of violence.

our defense money isn't even going to the cause anymore. it's buying AF kids billion dollar toys they are flying around for lockheed and skunkworks in the nevada desert. the AF is just R & D for tech at this point. MQ-1's are creating more terrorists in pakistan than they are killing. it's not even acting in our best interests. just madmen stiring the pot to make money.

They have not been working for our best interests in a long time to be honest, that ship sailed lord knows how long ago. I agree on King as well, if you tell the TRUTH sadly it is getting you taken out! I guess the truth is not to be known in this country at all, if so it's a sin to tell it! You can die for telling the truth, how bad is that? America is what he said as well, violence and crooks and liars.

I agree yes on the flying toys as well, they need F35's and F22's which are way overrated IMO for billions of dollars and could have upgraded a few things on older toys and made a viable weapon, yet they SPEND AND SPEND AND SPEND! It's out of hand. Good post.

Their GOD, GOLD OIL DRUGS....... They start these wars for one reason or another and lie about why they started it and people eat it up.

[PingPong]

LOL Thinking that calculating the trajectory of a mortar means any . Can you calculate de average of the ROI (return of investment) using second degree equation? Thats a calculation, soldier. Bragging about calculating the trajectory of a mortar and firing missiles to the civillian buildings, killing kids in a newborn maternity hospital in real life. LOL military...

[webshad]

The thing is we don't control who is in power and no matter what party honestly they are basically crooks and liars who put on a smile and a suit to get elected then do nothing and do not fulfill the promises they once guaranteed and do whatever they do behind the scenes. Vote or not they put who they want in office alot of times and probably even rig votes for all we know and have an agenda. The sad fact is behind the scenes this is a very crooked country with crooked people running it and voting is not the only problem on our behalf, staying dumb and just accepting things or believing that crap they say on the news etc. (brainwashing) is correct and just lay down. Too many people asleep while standing up in this country and really all over.

Agree! Two things get you elected: a) Israel (NOT AMERICA but Israel) b) Corporation (Not the public)

They have not been working for our best interests in a long time to be honest, that ship sailed lord knows how long ago. I agree on King as well, if you tell the TRUTH sadly it is getting you taken out! I guess the truth is not to be known in this country at all, if so it's a sin to tell it! You can die for telling the truth, how bad is that? America is what he said as well, violence and crooks and liars.

Just sad.

I agree yes on the flying toys as well, they need F35's and F22's which are way overrated IMO for billions of dollars and could have upgraded a few things on older toys and made a viable weapon, yet they SPEND AND SPEND AND SPEND! It's out of hand. Good post.

Cities in the state can’t afford to pay their water bill now, but these bloodthirsty politicians spend billions on weaponry. Interesting statistic is that the US spends more on arms than the next 8 countries combined.

Their GOD, GOLD OIL DRUGS....... They start these wars for one reason or another and lie about why they started it and people eat it up.

Something interesting here, compare the drug trades out of Afghanistan during Taliban’s reign and now with America’s reign as per the UN.

[hater]

OP would never join the military as he is afraid of the possibility of conflict. Afraid of the military as he is afraid of fast cars and pussy.

Stick to your gardening bro

unless you have a conviction or deportation pending it's a ing stupid idea to join IMO

[unleashbaynes]

DO garbage collectors risk their lives for you?

one could argue that the job a trash man does is much more essential and has a far greater effect on your life than anything a modern day soldier is doing.