was that really an NBA player, tbh?..
Maurice Richard, Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Ty Cobb, Chamberlain, Bill Russell, O-Robertson, Terry Bradshaw, Jim Brown
Last edited by AlexJones; 11-12-2014 at 02:13 AM.
Some players ability and skills can transcend time, others wouldn't fare well in some eras. Considering sports science, nutrition and player development in this era has increased exponentially, it's no surprise athletes of this generation looked absolutely superhuman like compared to the player in the 80's, 70's or what have you. I'm not going to go waaay back, but All Star players in the 80's and especially early to mid 90's could still dominate in this era. If the same rules are in play, you wouldn't see hacks like James Harden average 25 points a game. NBA officiating rules have been adjusted in order to forge a game where everyone can be safe, where a 6-4 shooter can fearlessly drive at a 7-1 behemoth because he knows all he has to do is barrel through defenders and he'll be protected by the refs.
Today's games are a lot more fun though and the talent pool is much, much impressive, there's no doubt about that. But an overwhelming amount of them are also mentally weak. There's that trade off but the league has given us a much better product overall.
Agreed, thats like saying Rocky Marciano doesnt stand a chance against Mayweather or in the same weight category Mike Tyson.
Floyd would KO Marciano in 45 seconds(despite Floyd not being a KO artist), and then smack the out of his wife, tbh..
I seriously doubt this son of a could even last 2 rounds against a coasting Mayweather
Tim Bradley would probably have his way on him too
Terry Bradshaw
Kirk Cousins could have easily led those Steelers to Super Bowls every year, tbh..
Tbh, I don't understand how Wilt didn't flat out dominate more than he did. He was supposedly the greatest athlete to ever play in the NBA, but in his 50 ppg season that same year Elgin Baylor averaged 38. I know 12 ppg is still a huge gap, but look at Elgin then look at Wilt![]()
Him and the Admiral were cut from the same cloth tbh
Where does that put TI versus Marciano?
Last edited by jimbo; 11-12-2014 at 02:25 AM. Reason: fucked up my black feuds
Wilt's head wasn't in the game given his lifestyle and his team was fairly weak compared to Russell's.
His accomplishments are frequently derided and dismissed as a function of his era, but let's be serious. He averaged 50 ppt in a season, 22 rig in his career and is the only Center in history to lead to league in assists
You put Wilt Chamberlain into the modern game, with modern workout routines and modern strategies, and he will still be the best big man on the floor today.
On the contrary mentally weak s like him and Drob probably wouldn't even be able to make it with the pressure we put on modern athletes with 24/7 ESPN coverage and social media. You have to think even a guy like JR Smith would be considered one of the most mentally tough dudes in 1970.
If Wilt was a playoff choker back then with no pressure and no one watching the league, he'd get mindraped in today's society. If he was pullin tail like crazy back then, he wouldn't even have to blink to get even more nowadays. Dude's career would sink before it ever started imo.
I disagree on old heads as far as passing goes in the NFL, the rules nowadays are so pussy for the QB and you can't touch them and receivers back then could be jammed and rode out of bounds etc. This is a pussified passing league nowadays and QB's routinely get 5000 yards or near it when in the past that was unheard of before Marino did it. The rules nowadays are just so favorable to the passing game.Yes, but the boxers in the 80's in the middle weights or lightweight would pretty much make sure mr FLOYD was not undefeated for his career. Sugar Ray, Hearns, Duran, Hagler etc. put in work and are better than anything Floyd has seen in this era by far. He would not be undefeated if he was in that era, he would have to fight the best then.
Last edited by Sean Cagney; 11-12-2014 at 02:57 AM.
I don't think Wilt belongs to the mental midget group like Dwight for example, I've read a few parts of his biography and nothing suggests that. I'd say he'll probably have a career similar to Shaq. Where as Shaq's career was hampered by injuries and bad work ethic, I'd say Wilt's career would probably end for other reasons (White pussy fever tbh)
I do think he's capable of leading a team in this era to a le though.
a 10th rank WBO boxer can knock out marxiono in two rounds...
People underrating nutrition and science as usual.
imagine Magic trying to sneak around and hide his ass- ing sexuality in 2014 with the ubiquitous social media coverage, tbh..
It would be a locker room distraction from day 1..
As a former amateur boxer, I feel like the one sport that is actually decreasing in talent every era is boxing. I agree about the other analogies, Dwight Howard would be considered a top 5 player all time if he played in the 80's.
However, boxing is different. The sport was much more serious and beloved during the 40's-early 2000's. Taking Mayweather out of the equation for a moment since he's so polarizing. The talent from the 60's-80's alone is astoundingly better than today, hence the reason why Bernard Hopkins was able to dominate for so long.
Sports and athletes evolve (athletes obviously don't evolve genetically, but the advancements in sports medicine, nutrition, and training had led to an evolution in conditioning and athleticism).
That doesn't mean you can't appreciate what a great athlete did in their particular era. , even Irishock has to be impressed with the way Cy Young and Walter Johnson would throw 30 complete games in a season, and they did so for multiple seasons. And that's with comparatively bad mechanics to today's pitchers. Their arms must've been goo after they retired. Nowadays, a pitcher has to have Tommy John if he throws more than 100 pitches.
I hate to interrupt the trollfest with a question, but I do anyway:
Are you guys talking about the 60's version (60's training, diets etc) of the old players playing against today's generation, or about how they'd do if how they'd do with the same possibilities our generation of players has?
In Laymen's terms:
Even this
would dominate and destroy this anyday
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The fault should be on the NBA Officiating, not the NBA players. NBA players of today play smart defense by not playing hard defense (90's defense) because if they do, they'd be fouled out in the first half. It's the Officiating that holds the players of today from playing ogre-smash defense.
If Bill Russell was born in 1992, he'd basically be a more athletic Anthony Davis, meaning he'd be a monster. Russell was a genetic and athletic freak, and would be great in any era if granted equal training/knowledge advantages.
I think I could take Havlicek 1-on-1 tbh.
doesn't even have a left hand and when he gets courageous and attempts his weak ass, one-handed crossover he almost falls over. His vertical looks to be about 10" too.![]()
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