OT: Malik Hairston is right imho

[StrengthAndHonor]

Some players ability and skills can transcend time, others wouldn't fare well in some eras. Considering sports science, nutrition and player development in this era has increased exponentially, it's no surprise athletes of this generation looked absolutely superhuman like compared to the player in the 80's, 70's or what have you. I'm not going to go waaay back, but All Star players in the 80's and especially early to mid 90's could still dominate in this era. If the same rules are in play, you wouldn't see hacks like James Harden average 25 points a game. NBA officiating rules have been adjusted in order to forge a game where everyone can be safe, where a 6-4 shooter can fearlessly drive at a 7-1 behemoth because he knows all he has to do is barrel through defenders and he'll be protected by the refs.


Today's games are a lot more fun though and the talent pool is much, much impressive, there's no doubt about that. But an overwhelming amount of them are also mentally weak. There's that trade off but the league has given us a much better product overall.

And1

Nutrition, player development and any of that modern stuff has made today's athletes a lot better. Also, the game overall just evolved, the game is just better.

[AlexJones]

In Laymen's terms:

Even this



would dominate and destroy this anyday

That's a borderline NBA calibre team going up against a YMCA pickup squad.

[lefty]

Thosr Lakers arent Nba caliber teams

[midnightpulp]

That's a borderline NBA calibre team going up against a YMCA pickup squad.

You're forgetting that Kobe would find a way to shoot them out of that game.

[StrengthAndHonor]

No one in the 80s played defense, though. Even in the Finals you had guys running to the FT line extended and taking uncontested 15 footers with no pressure at all.

80's ball was awful. Nash IMO would have no problems.

[StrengthAndHonor]

That's a borderline NBA calibre team going up against a YMCA pickup squad.

It's unfair to compare teams from two vastly different eras. Even this years Kentucky Wildcats roster would demolish any NBA team in the 60's or even 70's.

[Clipper Nation]

When the league started letting guys use PEDs so they could get the next superstar

If you really think players weren't juicing in the '80s and '90s, you're deluding yourself, tbh.

Steroids were already in football and baseball by the late '60s, it would not be a shock if basketball players had started juicing by then as well.

[King Emmanuel]

Timmy>MJ

[The Gemini Method]

In before the resident darkie protector makes comment...

[Cry Havoc]

80's ball was awful. Nash IMO would have no problems.

Nash is tougher than most give him credit for, he's just not an enforcer. 80s ball would have been ideal for him, he would have shot 55% in that era.

[lefty]

If you really think players weren't juicing in the '80s and '90s, you're deluding yourself, tbh.

Steroids were already in football and baseball by the late '60s, it would not be a shock if basketball players had started juicing by then as well.

They didnt look like they were on steroids back then

I baseball it's noticeable

[DAF86]

Give All-time greats from past years the chance to work with todays' technics (on training, nutrition, etc.) and they would be great for today standards too. Wilt may not score 50 ppg on a season but he would dominate an Omer Asik.

[Jenks]

Give All-time greats from past years the chance to work with todays' technics (on training, nutrition, etc.) and they would be great for today standards too. Wilt may not score 50 ppg on a season but he would dominate an Omer Asik.

Why would you need go give Wilt any different training or nutrition than he had? He was twice the athlete that any of today's centers are.
This isn't the NFL where the guys are now 50lbs heavier, 6" taller, and can run faster. Wilt, with what he had, was physically superior to today's centers by miles. We're talking about a guy 3+ inches taller than Dwert, who could jump higher than him, and was stronger than Shaq. And these s are talking about Asik.

[DAF86]

Why would you need go give Wilt any different training or nutrition than he had? He was twice the athlete that any of today's centers are.
This isn't the NFL where the guys are now 50lbs heavier, 6" taller, and can run faster. Wilt, with what he had, was physically superior to today's centers by miles. We're talking about a guy 3+ inches taller than Dwert, who could jump higher than him, and was stronger than Shaq. And these s are talking about Asik.

If you don't think he would be at a disadvantage with antiquated training methods in todays' NBA you aren't thinking straight.

[Jenks]

If you don't think he would be at a disadvantage with antiquated training methods in todays' NBA you aren't thinking straight.

Be specific, tell me what training Wilt lacked physically that today's training would improve.
Keep the following in mind while answering:
Stronger than Shaq
55" vertical leap
Career average 46 MPG

[lefty]

Just because players were skinnier, it doesnt mean they were weaker , less athletic, in worse shape. etc


People who make that confusion are idiots tbh

[DAF86]

Be specific, tell me what training Wilt lacked physically that today's training would improve.
Keep the following in mind while answering:
Stronger than Shaq
55" vertical leap
Career average 46 MPG

Every single one that has proved over the years to get the best out of any phisycal atribute a player posses.

[lefty]

Then Messi must be from the 50s TBH, because he needs HGH

[RsxPiimp]

Why would you need go give Wilt any different training or nutrition than he had? He was twice the athlete that any of today's centers are.
This isn't the NFL where the guys are now 50lbs heavier, 6" taller, and can run faster. Wilt, with what he had, was physically superior to today's centers by miles. We're talking about a guy 3+ inches taller than Dwert, who could jump higher than him, and was stronger than Shaq. And these s are talking about Asik.

The evolution in both science and training is nothing to scoff at. The mere fact Wilt was a freak in his era despite of antiquated techniques and less than ideal dietary plan is enough proof he'll dominate in this era. I remember Arnold Schwarzenegger's pre and post work out meal. They didn't have the luxury of whey protein, creatine supplements etc so everything was natural (eggs and milk) and his physique is still one of the best in history.




Wilt was a real once of a kind athlete in a sense. Like Lebron or Shaq. Those dudes will rule any league.

[DAF86]

Just because players were skinnier, it doesnt mean they were weaker , less athletic, in worse shape. etc


People who make that confusion are idiots tbh

Remember how there was a time humanity didn't use to have electricity and now we do, how we didn't use to have internet and now we do, how once we got it it used to be so slow and now is faster? Humanity evolves over time.

[lefty]

Remember how there was a time humanity didn't use to have electricity and now we do, how we didn't use to have internet and now we do, how once we got it it used to be so slow and now is faster? Humanity evolves over time.

This posts tells me you're a couch athlete

[DAF86]

Then Messi must be from the 50s TBH, because he needs HGH

Messi is a great case to prove my point. If he was from let's say 1935, he may not even been a professional football player and now he is God.

[DAF86]

This posts tells me you're a couch athlete

I played semi professional football till age 20, tbh.

[Jenks]

The mere fact Wilt was a freak in his era despite of antiquated techniques and less than ideal dietary plan is enough proof he'll dominate in this era.

Exactly -

Could he be slightly better with today's science? It's possible. It wouldn't allow him to play more minutes, it's doubtful it'd make him any stronger, and it's doubtful he'd jump any higher, so it's idiotic to get hung up on it. My point is we don't need re ed conjecture about what different training could possibly do in order to talk about Wilt. Actual Wilt, not hypothetical Wilt with today's training, would dominate in 2014.

[DAF86]

This posts tells me you're a couch athlete

Put Brazil from the '70s against today's Getafe and Getafe probably wins easy. Now give 70's Brazil today's physical and tactical preparation and they are the ones that win easy.